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  • Arnold J Rimmer
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    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    My uncle Blanton Gunn, who was warden of Folsom for a number of years, told me once that Manson would never be paroled. He said "There isn't a chance in Hell of that happening..."
    Well, he would know.

    Still, the less-publicized murderers often get parole.

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
    You're right, but they have to free up beds somehow. If Manson has made an effort he would have been paroled years ago.

    The only person sure to never see daylight is Sirhan Sirhan.
    My uncle Blanton Gunn, who was warden of Folsom for a number of years, told me once that Manson would never be paroled. He said "There isn't a chance in Hell of that happening..."

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  • The Exorcist
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    Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
    You're right, but they have to free up beds somehow. If Manson has made an effort he would have been paroled years ago.
    He didn't try because he knew he would have been killed.
    One of his own ex-family members would have probably strapped on a bomb and run up to pull and Allahu-Akbar on his skanky ass.... him and everyone hanging around with him.



    And the only way to stop this kind of insanity is to test Judges for insanity.
    ... them, and the absolute scumbags that they work for!!!


    Judge Gets Pay Raise, Despite DWI Arrest, Showing Up for Work Once in 216 Days and Violating Probation


    A New York city court judge with a history of legal troubles received a pay hike, despite only showing up for work once in 216 days. Her new compensation total is $187,000 per year, an $11,700 jump, according to a compensation agreement.

    Rochester City Court Judge Leticia Astacio had been assigned to the equivalent of desk duty while finishing a three-year probation sentence stemming from a 2016 DWI arrest. However, aside from reporting to work for one day on February 27, the judge has been absent since August 31.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-get...155130598.html

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  • Arnold J Rimmer
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    Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
    These guys donít know how to function on the outside. He is estranged from his family for good reason, he killed most of them.
    To survive within the prison system as long as he has is there any doubt he had to have gang connections?
    That will be his only support system once heís out. Guys that have been inside as long as he has been have a snowballs chance in a volcano of lasting on the outside.
    But itís all a moot point, he is out. Maybe a family member of one of his victims will do unto him, and the big wheel will keep on rolling.

    You're right, but they have to free up beds somehow. If Manson has made an effort he would have been paroled years ago.

    The only person sure to never see daylight is Sirhan Sirhan.

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  • Urban hermit
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    Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
    It wouldn't help. They are generally minimum, occasionally medium security.

    Its more than a classification system, it determines the design and staffing of a facility.

    He will cost as much or more on the outside, but it won't come out of the prison system's budget.
    These guys donít know how to function on the outside. He is estranged from his family for good reason, he killed most of them.
    To survive within the prison system as long as he has is there any doubt he had to have gang connections?
    That will be his only support system once heís out. Guys that have been inside as long as he has been have a snowballs chance in a volcano of lasting on the outside.
    But itís all a moot point, he is out. Maybe a family member of one of his victims will do unto him, and the big wheel will keep on rolling.
    Last edited by Urban hermit; 04 Apr 18, 09:27.

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  • Arnold J Rimmer
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    Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
    I would rather see thiefís and con artist released. This man deserved the death sentence. iME he is going to cost us just as much to support once heís free because he has no skills, no education, no income and will likely end up right back where he started.
    It wouldn't help. They are generally minimum, occasionally medium security.

    Its more than a classification system, it determines the design and staffing of a facility.

    He will cost as much or more on the outside, but it won't come out of the prison system's budget.

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
    I would rather see thiefís and con artist released. This man deserved the death sentence. iME he is going to cost us just as much to support once heís free because he has no skills, no education, no income and will likely end up right back where he started.
    I'm a lot more concerned about the possible human cost if he kills again.

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  • Urban hermit
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    Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
    Quite a bit, IME.

    But the point is that they have to clear beds somehow, and prison systems like to cut loose inmates who are mid-50s and older because their costs start spiraling upwards at that age due to medical costs.
    I would rather see thiefís and con artist released. This man deserved the death sentence. iME he is going to cost us just as much to support once heís free because he has no skills, no education, no income and will likely end up right back where he started.

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  • Arnold J Rimmer
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    Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
    How much worse can a person get?
    Quite a bit, IME.

    But the point is that they have to clear beds somehow, and prison systems like to cut loose inmates who are mid-50s and older because their costs start spiraling upwards at that age due to medical costs.

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  • Urban hermit
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    Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
    Worse guys get released every year. Very few serve actual life sentences.

    Prisons are finite in size and category; you send up a max security convict, you have to parole a max security inmate.

    No matter how you slice it, every newly convicted murderer means a paroled murderer.

    There's enough turnover in minimum and medium so that doesn't come into play as much in those areas, but when it comes to max security you don't have many empty beds.
    How much worse can a person get?

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  • Arnold J Rimmer
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    Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
    Murder 8 women and children, rape several others, sodomize his own mother before beating her.
    What the heck, heís been a model citizen when in a cell.....let bygones be bygones.....
    Worse guys get released every year. Very few serve actual life sentences.

    Prisons are finite in size and category; you send up a max security convict, you have to parole a max security inmate.

    No matter how you slice it, every newly convicted murderer means a paroled murderer.

    There's enough turnover in minimum and medium so that doesn't come into play as much in those areas, but when it comes to max security you don't have many empty beds.

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  • Urban hermit
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    Murder 8 women and children, rape several others, sodomize his own mother before beating her.
    What the heck, heís been a model citizen when in a cell.....let bygones be bygones.....

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by johns624 View Post
    What does the governor of California have to do with a sentence for a murder in New York City?
    They abuse the same psychotropic medications?

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  • Arnold J Rimmer
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    Originally posted by Surrey View Post
    Seems bizarre that he wasn't convicted of murder. And I thought the US was supposed to be tough on crime. Pity he didn't have an 'accident' while inside.
    He served 34 years, more than half his life, for manslaughter.

    If you don't think that's tough, perhaps you don't understand what tough is.

    People forget: for every person you send to prison in a given security classification, one in the same security classification has to come out.

    He was convicted of manslaughter because in New York being stoned out of your gourd is a mitigating factor. That isn't true in most states.

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  • Pruitt
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    Originally posted by johns624 View Post
    What does the governor of California have to do with a sentence for a murder in New York City?
    You are right! Substitute the current NY Governor for ole Moonbeam.

    Pruitt

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