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  • Has the Awan scandal disappeared?

    Probably the most serious and massive breech of US security to ever occur (upwards of 80 Congressmen involved, almost all Democrats) and nothing is being said about it. No investigation, nada, nothing... Why is that?

    Finding anything current on this is almost impossible..

    https://caucus99percent.com/content/...-added-10-2-17

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/29/ha...ran-awan-case/

  • #2
    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Probably the most serious and massive breech of US security to ever occur (upwards of 80 Congressmen involved, almost all Democrats) and nothing is being said about it. No investigation, nada, nothing... Why is that?

    Finding anything current on this is almost impossible..

    https://caucus99percent.com/content/...-added-10-2-17

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/29/ha...ran-awan-case/
    Sounds like a cover-up at very high levels. We can be sure that if these had been Republicans, it would have been all over the media. Or...nothing much actually happened at all.
    Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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    • #3
      Something nefarious happened. The FBI found piles of hard drives at Awan's home in the garage, most from government computers...

      His wife skipped the country with six figures of cash and he was following her but got caught...

      None of this family were particularly computer savvy or credentialed in terms of education in that field.

      Lots of evidence of massive downloads from congressional computers to private ones, thumb drives, etc. What was downloaded hasn't been made public...

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      • #4
        Alan and his wife are due to be in court some day. Their court dates keep getting postponed. As of today, their next court appearance is for May 4.

        Court documents filed give almost no clue about the case. Last October, there was a reference by the feds to indicate they are only looking into bank fraud charges.

        Meanwhile...Awan is employed as a Uber driver and wears a GPS tracking device, he can’t go more than 150 miles away from his home.



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        • #5
          Originally posted by Persephone View Post
          Alan and his wife are due to be in court some day. Their court dates keep getting postponed. As of today, their next court appearance is for May 4.

          Court documents filed give almost no clue about the case. Last October, there was a reference by the feds to indicate they are only looking into bank fraud charges.

          Meanwhile...Awan is employed as a Uber driver and wears a GPS tracking device, he can’t go more than 150 miles away from his home.



          .
          Well, gee whiz...150 miles? Most people in America rarely travel half that distance unless going on vacation.

          As usual, one set of laws and punishment for the citizens and another, more liberal set for the autocrats.
          Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
            Something nefarious happened. The FBI found piles of hard drives at Awan's home in the garage, most from government computers...

            His wife skipped the country with six figures of cash and he was following her but got caught...

            None of this family were particularly computer savvy or credentialed in terms of education in that field.

            Lots of evidence of massive downloads from congressional computers to private ones, thumb drives, etc. What was downloaded hasn't been made public...
            "Nefarious" my . Try "criminal".
            Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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            • #7
              No hear this -

              WND -
              Bizarre twist in Seth Rich murder probe ...
              He’s the Washington-based attorney and lobbyist who’s been on the hunt for slain DNC staffer Seth Rich’s killer – and now he’s been shot at and run over by the former U.S. Marine he hired to help him get to the bottom of the case.

              As WND has reported, Jack Burkman, a lobbyist who has been investigating the Rich murder, has also filed a federal lawsuit that accuses Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee of rigging the 2016 presidential primary. The complaint by Burkman also demanded the release of the hacked DNC server.

              More recently, Burkman had offered a $25,000 reward to FBI whistleblowers willing to provide information about the agency’s treatment of the Clinton email investigation and the Russia probe.

              Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2018/03/gunfire-e...HpSlWE6cbIu.99

              Of course, you would have to be a "conspiracy theorist" to think that there was anything wrong with this....

              Yeah, riiiiight.



              The project, an “all-volunteer group of current and former George Washington University forensic psychology graduate students and instructors,” said it came together for the investigation to “aid the Washington, D.C., Metropolitan Police utilizing forensic psychology skills and tools in hopes of providing at least one actionable item.”

              The findings included:

              Seth’s death does not appear to be a random homicide.

              Seth’s death does not appear to be a robbery gone bad.

              Seth[‘s] death was more likely committed by a hired killer or serial murderer.

              There may be additional video surveillance of the crime and crime scene.

              The resolution of prosecuting the individual(s) responsible appears to be hindered both actively and passively.

              Seth’s killer(s) most likely remains free with the community.

              As WND reported, Rich, 27, was a DNC voter expansion data director for two years and had accepted a position with Hillary Clinton’s campaign. He was murdered in Washington, D.C., on July 10, 2016, near his apartment in an affluent neighborhood. Rich was shot twice in the back with a handgun, and his wallet, credit cards, watch and phone were left in his possession. The Metropolitan Police Department has described it as a “botched robbery.”

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              • #8
                Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                Probably the most serious and massive breech of US security to ever occur (upwards of 80 Congressmen involved, almost all Democrats) and nothing is being said about it. No investigation, nada, nothing... Why is that?

                Finding anything current on this is almost impossible..

                https://caucus99percent.com/content/...-added-10-2-17

                http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/29/ha...ran-awan-case/
                This is because you fell once more victim of conspiracy theories which tried to use the case as a tool to promote their political propaganda. They took a case in which people did engage in illegal activities and they tried to make a case of a Democratic plot.

                Same thing with the now vanished "scandal" of"unmasking US citizens
                My most dangerous mission: I landed in the middle of an enemy tank battalion and I immediately, started spraying bullets killing everybody around me having fun up until my computer froze...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by pamak View Post
                  This is because you fell once more victim of conspiracy theories which tried to use the case as a tool to promote their political propaganda. They took a case in which people did engage in illegal activities and they tried to make a case of a Democratic plot.

                  Same thing with the now vanished "scandal" of"unmasking US citizens
                  Your vacuous dismissal of this case means nothing. We know the FBI found dozens upon dozens of hard drives in Awan's garage of his home. Many were identified as coming out of government computers.

                  We know upwards of 80 Democrats in Congress used these guys for years as their IT specialists and gave them full access to their computers.

                  We know they were marginally qualified, at best, to be doing this job.

                  We know they were either foreign nationals or had dual citizenship which would preclude them form holding security clearances, but they got those too.

                  We know they raked in hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions, for their services and were absconding the US to Pakistan with their loot.

                  The known facts, of which some are listed above, would have Democrats and the MSM howling for a special prosecutor if it was Trump or someone on his cabinet who did the same.
                  You're running interference for people who are either blithering idiots, criminals, or both. I figure both.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                    Your vacuous dismissal of this case means nothing. We know the FBI found dozens upon dozens of hard drives in Awan's garage of his home. Many were identified as coming out of government computers.

                    We know upwards of 80 Democrats in Congress used these guys for years as their IT specialists and gave them full access to their computers.

                    We know they were marginally qualified, at best, to be doing this job.

                    We know they were either foreign nationals or had dual citizenship which would preclude them form holding security clearances, but they got those too.

                    We know they raked in hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions, for their services and were absconding the US to Pakistan with their loot.

                    The known facts, of which some are listed above, would have Democrats and the MSM howling for a special prosecutor if it was Trump or someone on his cabinet who did the same.
                    You're running interference for people who are either blithering idiots, criminals, or both. I figure both.
                    I did not dismiss that the FBI found evidence against the Aawan brothers. What I dismissed was the conspiracy theories I read those days when hacks were trying to use the case to create the illusion of a Democratic plot to cover illegal activities. And the fact that even you now admit that you cannot find anything about this case shows that there is nothing of the sort conspiracy theorists were promoting. Last time I checked these Awan brothers were charged with fraud and this matter is now a matter of courts. The investigation did not reveal anything. But hey, feel free to now suspect that this is a result of the "deep state" cover-up...
                    My most dangerous mission: I landed in the middle of an enemy tank battalion and I immediately, started spraying bullets killing everybody around me having fun up until my computer froze...

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                    • #11
                      and since, obviously, the sources you use do not mention the indictment and the nature of the specific charges, let me help you

                      http://www.trbas.com/media/media/acr...0-17151530.pdf


                      The investigation revealed a case of bank fraud, false statements and unlawful monetary transactions. There were no deals of cooperation to catch a bigger fish and there is nothing (including no leaking) to suggest that prosecutors were focusing on something bigger...
                      At some point, you should pause and think why too often the stories you read in the sites you visit quietly die. This is why I also mentioned the "unmasking scandal" which after a formal Congressional investigation revealed nothing illegal.
                      My most dangerous mission: I landed in the middle of an enemy tank battalion and I immediately, started spraying bullets killing everybody around me having fun up until my computer froze...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by pamak View Post
                        I did not dismiss that the FBI found evidence against the Aawan brothers. What I dismissed was the conspiracy theories I read those days when hacks were trying to use the case to create the illusion of a Democratic plot to cover illegal activities. And the fact that even you now admit that you cannot find anything about this case shows that there is nothing of the sort conspiracy theorists were promoting. Last time I checked these Awan brothers were charged with fraud and this matter is now a matter of courts. The investigation did not reveal anything. But hey, feel free to now suspect that this is a result of the "deep state" cover-up...
                        I suspect that the Democrats are tying to cover up their FU here. Just as the DNC refused to turn over computers to the FBI following the hacking of them and release of information that showed the Democrat primaries were rigged, here too I suspect many of those 80 Democrats in Congress don't want their dirty laundry aired for a nanosecond.

                        That I can't find anything on this case only means that there is likely no one looking into it. Certainly the MSM can't be trusted to do it today. Much of it is little more than an extension of the Democrat party.

                        You have members of Congress (Democats) demanding the drives, computers, and other IT stuff found or seized returned unexamined.

                        Wasserman Schultz has demanded return of a laptop seized by the Capitol Police because it was purportedly used by Imran and was found hidden in a vacant office. The Florida Democrat used a Capitol Police budget hearing to threaten “consequences” for them if the laptop wasn’t returned.
                        http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/23/ex...it-aides-home/

                        Just the FACT that the Awan brothers were foreign nationals and had access to classified data, even if at the lowest level, let alone highly classified data, should be sufficient for a prosecution not just of them on that, but anyone who allowed them to get a clearance.

                        http://michellemalkin.com/2017/08/09...ects-get-here/

                        It's very clear some very illegal and squirrely stuff was going on here and that was months ago. There should be more out there on this. Seems to me there is a good chance in this case of a cover-up.

                        Democrats shouldn't be allowed near computers of any sort, particularly government computers...

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                          I suspect that the Democrats are tying to cover up their FU here. Just as the DNC refused to turn over computers to the FBI following the hacking of them and release of information that showed the Democrat primaries were rigged, here too I suspect many of those 80 Democrats in Congress don't want their dirty laundry aired for a nanosecond.

                          That I can't find anything on this case only means that there is likely no one looking into it. Certainly the MSM can't be trusted to do it today. Much of it is little more than an extension of the Democrat party.

                          You have members of Congress (Democats) demanding the drives, computers, and other IT stuff found or seized returned unexamined.



                          http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/23/ex...it-aides-home/

                          Just the FACT that the Awan brothers were foreign nationals and had access to classified data, even if at the lowest level, let alone highly classified data, should be sufficient for a prosecution not just of them on that, but anyone who allowed them to get a clearance.

                          http://michellemalkin.com/2017/08/09...ects-get-here/

                          It's very clear some very illegal and squirrely stuff was going on here and that was months ago. There should be more out there on this. Seems to me there is a good chance in this case of a cover-up.

                          Democrats shouldn't be allowed near computers of any sort, particularly government computers...
                          Bold mine...

                          All conspiracy theories are based on suspicions. The point is that you have nothing on which to base them. Th obvious thought regarding the behavior of some legislators is that they were concerned about possible leaks if their files were accessed by the investigators. So, of course, they wanted to keep as much as they could the FBI out of confidential political material, especially in a period when the FBI is feeling the pressure of the Trump administration. This is the simplest and most natural explanation with the least assumptions. This is why it is more convincing compared to your elaborate conspiracy theory which requires tons of assumptions to explain the situation you observe of not being able to find anything new about this "scandal."


                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor

                          Occam's razor (also Ockham's razor or Ocham's razor; Latin: lex parsimoniae "law of parsimony") is the problem-solving principle that, when presented with competing hypothetical answers to a problem, one should select the one that makes the fewest assumptions.
                          Last edited by pamak; 30 Mar 18, 19:40.
                          My most dangerous mission: I landed in the middle of an enemy tank battalion and I immediately, started spraying bullets killing everybody around me having fun up until my computer froze...

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by pamak View Post
                            Bold mine...

                            All conspiracy theories are based on suspicions. The point is that you have nothing on which to base them. Th obvious thought regarding the behavior of some legislators is that they were concerned about possible leaks if their files were accessed by the investigators. So, of course, they wanted to keep as much as they could the FBI out of confidential political material, especially in a period when the FBI is feeling the pressure of the Trump administration. This is the simplest and more natural explanation with the least assumptions. This is why it is more convincing compared to your elaborate conspiracy theory which requires tons of assumptions to explain the situation you observed of not being able to find anything new about this "scandal."


                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor
                            You are wrong. Conspiracy theories are based on selective use of a few facts that fly in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.



                            In this case, the known and available facts point overwhelmingly to Wasserman-Schultz and the Awan brothers involvement in questionable, and almost certainly felonious and illegal computer operations within Congress. Many other Democrats were involved, knowingly or not.
                            The known facts point to serious issues regarding national security, access to sensitive and classified documents by foreign nationals, and large sums of money paid and moving around in a number of illegal schemes.

                            What you are trying to do is say nothing much happened since you can't be 100% sure what happened. Well, I'm 100% sure there was criminal activity involved here and it wasn't just bank fraud. I don't require a 100% ironclad set of evidence to know that. The available evidence is at like 85 -90+ % that there's more to this than bank fraud.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                              You are wrong. Conspiracy theories are based on selective use of a few facts that fly in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.



                              In this case, the known and available facts point overwhelmingly to Wasserman-Schultz and the Awan brothers involvement in questionable, and almost certainly felonious and illegal computer operations within Congress. Many other Democrats were involved, knowingly or not.
                              The known facts point to serious issues regarding national security, access to sensitive and classified documents by foreign nationals, and large sums of money paid and moving around in a number of illegal schemes.

                              What you are trying to do is say nothing much happened since you can't be 100% sure what happened. Well, I'm 100% sure there was criminal activity involved here and it wasn't just bank fraud. I don't require a 100% ironclad set of evidence to know that. The available evidence is at like 85 -90+ % that there's more to this than bank fraud...


                              My Bold...
                              The known facts is that there is nothing new you can find regarding an investigation of Democrats. Not even any new deposition or new "interviews" to suggest that there is an ongoing investigation. And the known facts is that the FBI and the DOJ are in republican hands. And the known facts is that there is an indictment of Awan (which I provided it for you). And, yes, the conspiracy theories you use from the sites you visit selectively ignore such facts and still push the theory that somehow the democrats have conspired behind our backs to cover their illegal acts.
                              Last edited by pamak; 03 Jul 18, 20:30.
                              My most dangerous mission: I landed in the middle of an enemy tank battalion and I immediately, started spraying bullets killing everybody around me having fun up until my computer froze...

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