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  • #16
    Originally posted by American87 View Post
    Because they don't have anything negative on Trump
    REALLY, Have you never heard of a guy named Flynn or the Mal??? guy. Are you ignoring them?
    "Ask not what your country can do for you"

    Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

    you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Massena View Post
      Interesting group with a very high level of experience prosecuting.

      http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2018/...-mueller-team/
      No bias on that team!
      Trying hard to be the Man, that my Dog believes I am!

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Trung Si View Post
        No bias on that team!
        Much less than at Fox. Did you ask all these questions of Ken Starr's team?
        "Ask not what your country can do for you"

        Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

        you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
          Care to share the source that you use for your news?
          Multiple sources. When something interesting pops up I usually check it with sources from both ends of the political spectrum.
          "I don't discuss sitting presidents," Mattis tells NPR in an interview. "I believe that you owe a period of quiet."

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Trung Si View Post
            No bias on that team!
            How would you know if there is bias or not? Have you talked to any or all on the investigative team? Or are you merely judging them by their political affiliation. What do you propose, a litmus test?

            Give us all a break.
            We are not now that strength which in old days
            Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
            Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
            To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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            • #21
              Trying to find your daily hate into the one thread that hasn't gob\ne into the trash heap, M?
              Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Massena View Post
                How would you know if there is bias or not? Have you talked to any or all on the investigative team? Or are you merely judging them by their political affiliation. What do you propose, a litmus test?

                Give us all a break.
                Maybe he read my posts on page 1... Did you?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by American87 View Post
                  Because they don't have anything negative on Trump
                  Really?

                  I guess that's why he is now a subject of the criminal investigation...

                  Trump, by his own words, fired Comey because of the Russia investigation. That's obstruction of justice.

                  Trump disclosed classified information that was of foreign origin to two Russian officials in the Oval Office.
                  We are not now that strength which in old days
                  Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                  Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                  To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Massena View Post
                    Really?

                    I guess that's why he is now a subject of the criminal investigation...

                    Trump, by his own words, fired Comey because of the Russia investigation. That's obstruction of justice.

                    Trump disclosed classified information that was of foreign origin to two Russian officials in the Oval Office.
                    Meanwhile;
                    HERE IT IS=> The 10 Different Reasons the Mueller Investigation is Unconstitutional!
                    ...
                    The Mueller investigation is criminal and corrupt and above all unconstitutional.

                    Here is a list of 10 reasons why the Mueller investigation is unconstitutional.
                    ...
                    1.Rosenstein’s special counsel order identifies collusion as the crime but no such crime exists in US Law.
                    ...
                    2. Mueller’s investigation exceeds the scope of special counsel law which requires the scope of a special counsel to be specific. Rosenstein created the special counsel with a scope that is so broad it is not supported by this law.
                    ...
                    3. Mueller accepted the special counsel position with known conflicts of interest.
                    ...
                    4. Rosenstein and Mueller’s entire team have known conflicts of interest.
                    ...
                    5. The Investigation exceeds the scope of Jeff Sessions’ recusal of only 2016 campaign related matters. Mueller’s scope is much broader.
                    ...
                    6. Rosenstein’s original authorization to Mueller extended to “Russia government collusion” in 2016 campaign only. By pressing charges against Manafort for 2006 actions, Mueller’s scope is much broader.
                    ...
                    7. Rosenstein does not have authorization over tax crimes. Only the Assistant Attorney General in charge of Tax Division can authorize indictments of tax crimes.
                    ...
                    8. Rosenstein’s letter tells Mueller only to look to Rosenstein for clarification of Mueller’s authorization. Rosenstein is not the Attorney General of the United States, and could not monopolize supervision of Mueller for matters that did not relate to Sessions’ recusal.
                    ...
                    9. By Rosenstein issuing his expanded authorization to Mueller in secret, Rosenstein created a secret inquisitor, unelected and un-appointed by elected officials, with all the powers of the federal criminal law enforcement, but none of the democratic checks and balances.
                    ...
                    10. The special counsel law requires that the Attorney General create the special counsel when a criminal investigation is warranted. There was no reason for Rosenstein to create the special counsel that could not have been addressed with other means, if necessary.
                    ...
                    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018...onstitutional/

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Massena View Post
                      First problem, you're using Fox News as a reference.
                      And you are using CNN ... quid pro quo

                      Originally posted by Massena View Post
                      Second problem you're labeling people you don't know, all of whom have an excellent record of public service, politically which is abhorrent. People who have sworn to serve the Constitution and have demonstrated that trait in the past tend to continue to do so no matter which political party is in power.
                      TBD ... political parties have agendas and those whom belong can be expected to have that sort of bias and apply. Especially among rank-n-file bureaucracies~bureaucrats, etc. as one example.

                      Originally posted by Massena View Post
                      Third, you are attempting to determine a person's loyalty and service by his or her political party. That is abhorrent and completely illogical.
                      Would it have been in case of NSDAP and 1933 Germany?

                      Originally posted by Massena View Post
                      That merely shows that you think political affiliation is more important than competence, expertise, and loyalty to the nation and the Constitution.
                      To some on the guv'mint pay role, it is. That's what the concept of "Deep State" includes ...

                      Originally posted by Massena View Post
                      Who is now the 'political hack'?
                      Mirror, mirror on the wall ...

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Massena View Post
                        Really?

                        I guess that's why he is now a subject of the criminal investigation...
                        Or, it really is just an inquisition and there's nothing there to be found...

                        Trump, by his own words, fired Comey because of the Russia investigation. That's obstruction of justice.
                        The FBI director isn't the investigating party here. He's just a bureaucrat and Trump has the authority to fire him. No obstruction of justice there.

                        Trump disclosed classified information that was of foreign origin to two Russian officials in the Oval Office.
                        The President can classify or declassify information at will. That's his prerogative.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
                          Much less than at Fox. Did you ask all these questions of Ken Starr's team?
                          What does he have to do with this thread?
                          BTW I don't watch Fox and what does Fox have to do with my post?
                          And to add, I don't like Trump, never have, but if that bunch doesn't resemble Bias, someone thinks that rational people are just blind or just plain Stupid, and I am not!
                          Last edited by Trung Si; 05 Apr 18, 22:17.
                          Trying hard to be the Man, that my Dog believes I am!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                            The FBI director isn't the investigating party here. He's just a bureaucrat and Trump has the authority to fire him. No obstruction of justice there.
                            Director Comey was initially in charge of the Russia investigation. And Trump told Lester Holt in an interview that he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation. That is obstruction of justice.
                            We are not now that strength which in old days
                            Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                            Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                            To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                              The President can classify or declassify information at will. That's his prerogative.
                              Not when the classified material is from an allied foreign source. That source is supposed to be consulted first. In this case it wasn't. And as Russia is not an ally, but an open enemy, giving classified material to them is at the very least 'wrong' and an exercise in bad judgment on the part of the president.

                              Trump is scared of Putin, will not admit that he is an adversary of the United States and her allies, and is both a murderer and a thug. Giving them classified material is criminal.
                              We are not now that strength which in old days
                              Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                              Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                              To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                                Or, it really is just an inquisition and there's nothing there to be found...
                                Of course!

                                That's why indictments have been handed down, the president is now a subject of the investigation, and people are now being sentenced to jail terms.

                                And it should be noted that Trump's own justice department began the investigation, appointed Director Mueller as special counsel, and are maintaining him in that position.

                                Dream on if you like, but the investigation is going to be unpleasant for Trump and his minions.
                                We are not now that strength which in old days
                                Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                                Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                                To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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