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  • #16
    Originally posted by Snowshoveler View Post
    The biggest brownnoser and who%e apologist of Muslim's terrorism and oppression in their culture is our current idiot spoiled manchild PM Justin Turdeau he's trying to break Canadians down to accept that Muslims are the future of our country.
    You meant to say manhole I'm sure...

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    • #17
      Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
      You meant to say manhole I'm sure...
      Going by his world reality view I should have said "Peoplechild".

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Snowshoveler View Post
        The biggest brownnoser and who%e apologist of Muslim's terrorism and oppression in their culture is our current idiot spoiled manchild PM Justin Turdeau he's trying to break Canadians down to accept that Muslims are the future of our country..
        Haha I like your calling him 'Turdeau"..
        Sadly Canada has always had its share of lefty traitors such as him over the years just like here in Britain and Europe.
        For example the pinko Canadian government of 1959 cancelled the fabulous new 'Avro Arrow' wonderplane-

        WIKI- "On 20 February 1959, the development of the Arrow was abruptly halted.
        Two months later, the assembly line, tooling, plans and existing airframes and engines were ordered to be destroyed. This action effectively put Avro out of business and its highly skilled engineering and production personnel scattered"

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Canada_CF-105_Arrow

        PS- but let's always remember that the voters themselves in all countries are to blame for putting useless politicians in power..
        "Which is the greater fool, the fool or the fool who follows him?"- Obi Wan Kenobi

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Poor Old Spike View Post
          Haha I like your calling him 'Turdeau"..
          Sadly Canada has always had its share of lefty traitors such as him over the years just like here in Britain and Europe.
          For example the pinko Canadian government of 1959 cancelled the fabulous new 'Avro Arrow' wonderplane-

          WIKI- "On 20 February 1959, the development of the Arrow was abruptly halted.
          Two months later, the assembly line, tooling, plans and existing airframes and engines were ordered to be destroyed. This action effectively put Avro out of business and its highly skilled engineering and production personnel scattered"

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Canada_CF-105_Arrow

          PS- but let's always remember that the voters themselves in all countries are to blame for putting useless politicians in power..
          "Which is the greater fool, the fool or the fool who follows him?"- Obi Wan Kenobi
          It was a Conservative government that canceled the Arrow it had become way too expensive by Avro being too ambitious and it wouldn't have been bought by the Liberals either.
          Liberals criticizing Conservatives for cancelling it like to believe that they would have bought it.
          Last edited by Snowshoveler; 17 Feb 18, 10:29.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Snowshoveler View Post


            It was a Conservative government that canceled the Arrow it had become way too expensive by Avro being too ambitious and it wouldn't have been bought by the Liberals either.
            Liberals criticizing Conservatives for cancelling it like to believe that they would have bought it.
            It came in the same time as the American F-4 which in all catagoys was the better aircraft. That might be the reason others didn't show interest in it.

            Performance

            Maximum speed: Mach 1.98 (1,307 mph, 2,104 km/h) at 50,000 ft (15,000 m) max. recorded speed; Mach 2+ potential[127]
            Cruise speed: Mach 0.91 (607 mph, 977 km/h) at 36,000 ft (11,000 m)
            Combat radius: 360 NM (410 mi, 660 km)
            Service ceiling: 53,000 ft (16,150 m)
            Wing loading: 46.5 lb/ft² (226.9 kg/m²)
            Thrust/weight: 0.825 at loaded weight

            Performance

            Maximum speed: 1,280 kn; 1,473 mph (2,370 km/h) at 40,000 ft (12,000 m)
            Maximum speed: Mach 2.23
            Cruise speed: 508 kn; 584 mph (940 km/h)
            Combat range: 367 nmi; 423 mi (680 km)
            Ferry range: 1,457 nmi; 1,677 mi (2,699 km)
            Service ceiling: 60,000 ft (18,000 m)
            Rate of climb: 41,300 ft/min (210 m/s)
            Lift-to-drag: 8.58
            Wing loading: 78 lb/sq ft (380 kg/m2)
            Thrust/weight: 0.86 lbf/lb (0.0084 kN/kg) at loaded weight, 0.58 lbf/lb (0.0057 kN/kg) at MTOW
            Takeoff roll: 4,490 ft (1,370 m) at 53,814 lb (24,410 kg)
            Landing roll: 3,680 ft (1,120 m) at 36,831 lb (16,706 kg)

            Beginning in 1959, it set 15 world records for in-flight performance,[4] including an absolute speed record, and an absolute altitude record.[5]
            "Ask not what your country can do for you"

            Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

            you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
              It came in the same time as the American F-4 which in all catagoys was the better aircraft. That might be the reason others didn't show interest in it.

              Performance

              Maximum speed: Mach 1.98 (1,307 mph, 2,104 km/h) at 50,000 ft (15,000 m) max. recorded speed; Mach 2+ potential[127]
              Cruise speed: Mach 0.91 (607 mph, 977 km/h) at 36,000 ft (11,000 m)
              Combat radius: 360 NM (410 mi, 660 km)
              Service ceiling: 53,000 ft (16,150 m)
              Wing loading: 46.5 lb/ft² (226.9 kg/m²)
              Thrust/weight: 0.825 at loaded weight

              Performance

              Maximum speed: 1,280 kn; 1,473 mph (2,370 km/h) at 40,000 ft (12,000 m)
              Maximum speed: Mach 2.23
              Cruise speed: 508 kn; 584 mph (940 km/h)
              Combat range: 367 nmi; 423 mi (680 km)
              Ferry range: 1,457 nmi; 1,677 mi (2,699 km)
              Service ceiling: 60,000 ft (18,000 m)
              Rate of climb: 41,300 ft/min (210 m/s)
              Lift-to-drag: 8.58
              Wing loading: 78 lb/sq ft (380 kg/m2)
              Thrust/weight: 0.86 lbf/lb (0.0084 kN/kg) at loaded weight, 0.58 lbf/lb (0.0057 kN/kg) at MTOW
              Takeoff roll: 4,490 ft (1,370 m) at 53,814 lb (24,410 kg)
              Landing roll: 3,680 ft (1,120 m) at 36,831 lb (16,706 kg)

              Beginning in 1959, it set 15 world records for in-flight performance,[4] including an absolute speed record, and an absolute altitude record.[5]
              It wasn't bought by us because of the costs we didn't buy F-4's instead we bought F-5's and F-104's for NATO operations and Bomarck missiles and F-101's were given to us for NORAD operations

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
                1.5 billion authorized by Congress for 3 new Littoral Ships $1.5 billion.

                Then what Dod ask for and what Congress authorized in the budget

                Dod Congress


                70 F35 90

                14 F18 24

                15 KC46A 17

                7 P-8 10

                6 V22 12

                Ref Taxpayers for Common Sense.
                other than fighters I like congresses numbers better. you can never have to much support

                See Nato vs Libya if any questions

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                • #23
                  DOD knows what they need better than corrupt congress critters
                  "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                  Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                  you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Snowshoveler View Post
                    It was a Conservative government that canceled the Arrow it had become way too expensive by Avro being too ambitious and it wouldn't have been bought by the Liberals either.
                    Liberals criticizing Conservatives for cancelling it like to believe that they would have bought it.
                    Although Conservatives in our countries are better than Libs, they're still pretty useless, for example here in Britain we're saddled with Conservative Prime Minister May who wants to stay in Europe even though the majority of Brits want to get out, it's a crazy world..

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