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  • #31
    Originally posted by Persephone View Post
    Why did they give the Pentagon billions more than Trump requested?

    Here is procurement breakdown of the President's request. Still not quite sure if this is pre or post the budget deal, but was announced today.


    77 F-35 Joint Strike Fighters - $10.7 billion
    15 KC-46 Tanker Replacements - $3.0 billion
    24 F/A-18s - $2.0 billion
    60 AH-64E Attack Helicopters - $1.3 billion
    6 VH-92 Presidential Helicopters - $0.9 billion
    10 P-8A Aircraft - $2.2 billion
    8 CH-53K King Stallion - $1.6 billion


    2 Virginia Class Submarines - $7.4 billion
    3 DDG-51 Arleigh Burke Destroyers - $6.0 billion
    1 Littoral Combat Ship - $1.3 billion
    CVN-78 Class Aircraft Carrier - $1.8 billion
    2 Fleet Replenishment Oilers (T-AO) - $1.1 billion
    1 Expeditionary Sea Base - $0.7 billion

    Ground Systems

    5,113 Joint Light Tactical Vehicles - $2.0 billion
    135 M-1 Abrams Tank Modifications - $2.7 billion
    30 Amphibious Combat Vehicles - $0.3 billion
    197 Armored Multi-Purpose Vehicles - $0.8 billion

    More late as I figure out this mess.



    • #32
      Why the hell does an LCS cost 1.3 billion? It's not even a frigate. Jesus, just build an additional Burke.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by TacCovert4 View Post
        Why the hell does an LCS cost 1.3 billion? It's not even a frigate. Jesus, just build an additional Burke.
        It's made from gold plated aluminum...?

        Maybe the coffee pot in the Chief's mess will work even at the bottom of the Marianas Trench or if the ship were in orbit of the Moon...


        • #34
          Originally posted by TacCovert4 View Post
          Why the hell does an LCS cost 1.3 billion? It's not even a frigate. Jesus, just build an additional Burke.
          Not sure what the $1.3 billion was all about, but may be for the program as a whole. The list (which I forgot to post the link) came from a DoD press release. I think somebody looked at the wrong figures. (See Link below) When I looked at the DoD budget which was put out today, the actual cost of the LCS (final one it seems) was $646.244 million.

          The two VIRGINIA SSNs are Block Vs which are lengthened to carrier more TLAMs and are meant as replacement boats for the 4 OHIO SSGNs.

          Link to the DoD budget request



          • #35
            Originally posted by TacCovert4 View Post
            Yikes that's scary. Belgium is in almost congruent debt conditions to Greece.....
            Yes and the Dutch are bankrupt and Mexico will buy us all - if they'd just find someone that will borrow them money

            That clock seems more indicative of the ability of various governments to borrow money on the financial markets and service that debt, than it is of the state of the various economies.

            A country like Ireland for example can afford a high debt ratio, because it is considered generally more reliable than something like Nigeria, which cannot trick enough money out of the financial market for a sandwich...

            Remember, debt is great, we love debt

            Here's a more accurate report btw..


            A better ground for comparison is the long term interest rate, which is the amount of interest a nation state pays when it borrows a certain amount for 10 years for instance,


            Greece's problem was not the nominal amount of debt as such, but the fact interest rates sored above 10% and the country did not generate enough revenue to service that debt.
            Last edited by Snowygerry; 13 Feb 18, 04:39.
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            • #36
              "I ran for office because I was very critical of President Obama's trillion-dollar deficits," a rightly outraged Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said Thursday. "Now we have Republicans hand in hand with Democrats offering us trillion-dollar deficits. I can't in all honesty look the other way." Now more than ever, Rand stands nearly alone.

              The turnabout in fiscal approach just since Paul's 2010 Tea Party wave election is enough to snap vertebrae. "Republicans repeal the Tea Party," ran the headline of Philip Klein's Washington Examiner piece, and it's hard to argue with his logic: "Despite many setbacks, the Tea Party had one tangible achievement to show for all of the havoc it caused: the enactment of spending caps that resulted from the 2011 standoff over raising the debt ceiling….In 2017, for the first time in the post-Tea Party era, Republicans finally gained unified control of government….They have now agreed on a deal with Democrats that would blow up the spending caps that were a legacy of the Tea Party movement—to the tune of $300 billion over the next two years."
              "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
              - Benjamin Franklin

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