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  • Harvard CAPS/Harris Poll: Americans Support Trump on Immigration

    American public backs immigration deal with DACA and border security

    BY MARK PENN, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR — 01/24/18

    [...]

    First, Americans support the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) recipients and their plight. If you came here as a kid with or without your parents, 77 percent in the last Harvard CAPS/Harris Poll (including 66 percent of Republicans) support not just work permits but a path to citizenship. The Department of Homeland Security secretary, Kirstjen Nielsen, said she supported a permanent solution to the problem and that means giving people an opportunity to work, pay taxes and prosper here as full citizens.

    Second, Americans support more secure borders, even if that means having a barrier that’s both physical and electronic where appropriate. Fifty-four percent (though only 32 percent of Democrats) support that kind of barrier, and overall 61 percent think our border security is inadequate. Nearly four in five (including most Democrats) reject the idea of open borders, which you may recall that Hillary Clinton did advocate in one of her speeches to Wall Street banks. (In general, business likes immigration because it brings in more customers and less-expensive labor.)

    Overall, 68 percent, including majorities of all parties, oppose a lottery for 50,000 immigrants a year. This is a remarkable policy — why would precious spots to come to America be offered to people, not on the basis of having relatives here or on ability to contribute to society, but randomly? That’s a tough policy to defend in today’s world.

    When asked whether preferences to come to America should be made on the basis of people’s ability, education and skills or on the basis of family relations, American voters overwhelmingly, by 79 to 21, choose merit. Voters in general oppose chain migration but I don’t think it would be accurate to say people oppose all preferences for relatives, as people are compassionate about the immigration of close family members like kids and parents. Voters will support limits on this program, but there is a lot of negotiating left on this one to get it right.

    Finally, when asked how many legal immigrants should be allowed into America each year, most people — 53 percent — said that 500,000 was a fair number, which of course is far below the existing annual legal immigration of 1 million. This is indicative of America’s general conservatism when it comes to immigration, which President Trump tapped into, to win the electoral college.

    So it is fair to say that Americans believe in compassion for those who are here — especially the “Dreamers” — but also want more merit-based immigration, an end to the lottery and a sensible electronic and physical barrier. In fact, when we asked Americans about a congressional deal like this one, 65 percent said this is a package of reforms that they would favor.

    [...]

    Mark Penn is chairman of the Harris Poll and was pollster and senior adviser to Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton from 1995 to 2008.
    http://thehill.com/opinion/immigrati...order-security

    Trump is offering a path to citizenship for the DACA'ns in exchange for a funding for the wall, merit-based immigration and an end to the visa lottery and other non-merit-based immigration programs.

    While Americans have at least some compassion for the DACA'ns, it doesn't extend to shutting down the government...
    Poll: Majority oppose shutting down government over DACA provision
    BY JONATHAN EASLEY - 01/19/18

    A majority of polled voters oppose shutting down the government over Democratic demands that a budget deal include provisions to shield from deportation immigrants who came to the country illegally as children, according to the latest Harvard CAPS/Harris Poll.

    When respondents were asked whether they "favor or oppose Democrats voting to shut the government down” if the funding measure does not restore work permits for those protected under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, 58 percent said they oppose a shutdown.

    Views on the issue fall generally along ideological lines, with 68 percent of Democrats in favor of a shutdown aimed at extending the DACA program, while 83 percent of Republicans and 65 percent of independents would oppose a shutdown driven by an immigration fight, according to the poll.

    [...]
    http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3...daca-provision

    The really funny thing is that the Democrats, the lamestream media and the Never-Trumptards still haven't figured out that Trump is holding all of the cards on this. If Chucky Schmucky Schumer doesn't give Trump funding for the wall, merit-based immigration and an end to the visa lottery and other non-merit-based immigration programs in a DACA deal, Trump will kick his ass again in three weeks.

    This literally is like watching Lucy pull the football away from Charlie Brown over and over again.

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  • #2
    In both the UK and the US there is value in letting the political left be known as the pro-immigration party. Just let them own that ground.

    Social conservatives should not aim for the centre ground on this issue. They won't win many votes by doing so but could alienate their own voter base, which is happening in the UK at the moment.
    Ne Obliviscaris, Sans Peur

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Escape2Victory View Post
      In both the UK and the US there is value in letting the political left be known as the pro-immigration party. Just let them own that ground.

      Social conservatives should not aim for the centre ground on this issue. They won't win many votes by doing so but could alienate their own voter base, which is happening in the UK at the moment.
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      The left isn't pro immigration in America its pro illegal immigration. The right is pro immigration but is against illegal immigration. Its a law thing over here. Should we obey laws or should we not?

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      • #4
        Um, I'm for immigration. But not unrestricted border crossings by criminal aliens....(note, I call them what they are, they're criminals once the cross the border knowingly, willfully, and unlawfully).

        I'm also willing to talk about the small percentage of criminal aliens who were brought here as children when they didn't have the free will to choose being a criminal or not. And I'm open to them having a way to become a legal resident. But if, and only if, the solution involves a final and absolute sunset date, and if and only if the solution puts some serious border controls in place.
        Tacitos, Satrap of Kyrene

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        • #5
          I too am all for legal immigration. But, that should be on the merits of the person(s) applying. I don't think the US has any obligation to take refugees. I can understand taking Vietnamese ones when S. Vietnam fell as the US was partially responsible for that happening. Syria, the Middle East, and Africa? Nah. They created that mess not us. Venezuela? That's their problem. Overthrow Maduro and learn a lesson about how Leftist Socialism doesn't work.

          End the visa lottery based more on race than merit too. We don't need to be the place the world's poor, wretched, and useless come to leach off the government teat.

          I'd also end the automatic birthright citizenship. Just because you happened to be in the US doesn't make the kid you just dropped a US citizen.

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          • #6
            I echo TAG's post.
            Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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