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  • #91
    Exactly what do you claim "American values" are? Mom, baseball, and apple pie? Two related questions: What are Trump's values, and what are Obama's?


    That said though, all the videos I posted show Trumpers acting in anti American ways. The guy in the red shirt pointed out in the first video how Info Wars believes in Pizza gate, among other controversies.
    So? I stated InfoWars does a lot of conspiracy theory nonsense. The guy in the red shirt also said "Trump is a Bilderberger" among other high-end conspiracy theories. So, he's no source of knowledge on anything. He's just some nutbag at a rally.

    As for Trump's speaking style. Okay, the guy's a bombastic troll. To friggin' bad, particularly for the pinky out teacup holding twitter class of pseudo-intellectuals on the Left.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
      Exactly what do you claim "American values" are? Mom, baseball, and apple pie?...
      For a Leftist, American Values don't really exist as a positive.

      They are required to hate themselves for being American in the first place as if it were an Original Sin, and then project that hate to all or the principles that the USA was founded on.
      "Why is the Rum gone?"

      -Captain Jack

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      • #93
        Originally posted by The Exorcist View Post
        For a Leftist, American Values don't really exist as a positive.

        They are required to hate themselves for being American in the first place as if it were an Original Sin, and then project that hate to all or the principles that the USA was founded on.
        I know what the Left claims as their values. I know what American values are usually taken as being. Leftist values clash directly and in opposition to American values. Not only do they do that, but when you make them in a short list only a fool would champion them.

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        • #94
          You're avoiding my question, but it was rhetorical anyway. There are numerous posts on here that demonstrate how republicans want more action from Muslims and blacks to police their own communities. Call out their own for hatred onto others (whites) and such notions are never seen as racist nor detrimental. But, when someone white is seen doing just that, suddenly everything changes as they're vilified and called racist. The rules that apply to whites are vastly different than what applies to everyone else, the advantage of being the majority.

          The constant message is that minorities can have the finger pointed at them, while whites are above any form of judgement or criticism even from their own and they bear no responsibility in helping to foster a more cohesive country. After all, everyone non-white according to republicans are just guests anyway.

          Those are your American values in a nutshell.
          "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
          - Benjamin Franklin

          The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
            You're avoiding my question, but it was rhetorical anyway. There are numerous posts on here that demonstrate how republicans want more action from Muslims and blacks to police their own communities. Call out their own for hatred onto others (whites) and such notions are never seen as racist nor detrimental. But, when someone white is seen doing just that, suddenly everything changes as they're vilified and called racist. The rules that apply to whites are vastly different than what applies to everyone else, the advantage of being the majority.
            Then let me answer your question directly

            Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
            If a Muslim came out and called for other Muslims to stop being racist and change their view of whites and other religions. Would you call him out for being racist against Muslims?
            No. I'd applaud him or her for doing so.

            The constant message is that minorities can have the finger pointed at them, while whites are above any form of judgement or criticism even from their own and they bear no responsibility in helping to foster a more cohesive country. After all, everyone non-white according to republicans are just guests anyway.

            Those are your American values in a nutshell.
            And, you'd be wrong. A typical list of American values would include (in no particular order):

            Individualism. Having control of one's own life.

            Equality. Equality of opportunity, not equal outcomes. The idea you can succeed or fail based on your own effort and hard work, or lack thereof.

            Hard work and achievement. Americans work hard and play hard. The idea of a "participation" trophy is little more than a national joke to most Americans.

            Competitiveness.

            Mobility. Both social and location-wise. An American value is there is no real class structure to society. You don't get treated differently for being rich or poor.

            Generosity and volunteerism. Americans are willing to give and donate far more than just about any country on Earth.


            Now, you take Progressive / Leftist values, and you find these are anything but American.

            Community. The individual isn't important. What's important is everyone being in it together. Ownership is shared, not individual too.

            Equality, but of outcomes. Everyone gets the same outcome. Differences in pay, wealth, ownership, all are equally distributed.

            Security and cooperativeness. Everyone works for the good of everyone else, even if you are putting in far more than you receive. Security is a function of the group, not individuals.

            Public participation and responsibility. You are expected to pay taxes and participate in the government process.

            Identity. Your race, gender, sexual orientation, etc., are all very important and need consideration. Class is also taken into consideration. You are pigeon holed into a class by education, wealth, ownership (or lack thereof), employment, etc., and you are expected to know your place in that hierarchy.

            So, I'd say Trump does represent American values, and that's what rankles the Progressives and Democrats to no end. He is in direct opposition to their values, which I might add really blow big time, being an American myself.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
              You're avoiding my question, but it was rhetorical anyway. There are numerous posts on here that demonstrate how republicans want more action from Muslims and blacks to police their own communities. Call out their own for hatred onto others (whites) and such notions are never seen as racist nor detrimental. But, when someone white is seen doing just that, suddenly everything changes as they're vilified and called racist. The rules that apply to whites are vastly different than what applies to everyone else, the advantage of being the majority.

              The constant message is that minorities can have the finger pointed at them, while whites are above any form of judgement or criticism even from their own and they bear no responsibility in helping to foster a more cohesive country. After all, everyone non-white according to republicans are just guests anyway.

              Those are your American values in a nutshell.
              You're so hung up on the color of peoples skin, as if that's somehow important in your life. No wonder no one takes you seriously.
              The First Amendment applies to SMS, Emails, Blogs, online news, the Fourth applies to your cell phone, computer, and your car, but the Second only applies to muskets?

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              • #97
                OTH, Tactikill mirrors the racial attitudes of many major black political groups and movements, who apparently feel a constant and growing need to blame someone else for their lives.

                Without speaking the name, we should all recognize the tactic of blaming one group for the social ills of a nation, and we should all remember how that worked out in Europe.

                Far too many people want desperately to believe that some else is responsible for their failure to be someone important.
                Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                  OTH, Tactikill mirrors the racial attitudes of many major black political groups and movements, who apparently feel a constant and growing need to blame someone else for their lives.

                  Without speaking the name, we should all recognize the tactic of blaming one group for the social ills of a nation, and we should all remember how that worked out in Europe.

                  Far too many people want desperately to believe that some else is responsible for their failure to be someone important.
                  Pointing out double standards is not blaming anyone for anything other than having a double standard.
                  "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
                  - Benjamin Franklin

                  The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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                  • #99
                    Tomi Lahren Apologizes For Calling Rep. Joe Kennedy “Nasty Ginger” and “Little Limp Dick

                    http://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertai...tle-limp-dick/

                    The apology is good. The behavior was Anti American. The words Lahren has used, and the type of anti American Trump attitude of always "getting ahead" and putting down blue collard Americans is something that goes against what men such as Reagan and FDR preached.

                    Tomi Lahren is like a Boss Tweed, big time Democrats and Republicans have over the years disgraced America. But no doubt the American spirit will prevail over ugly Trumpers. The American spirit is the hard working men and women of the 1940s who helped the allies to win ww2. The American spirit is also about family values. The Trumper spirit is about greed and materialism, The hope is Trump and co can change and be more American.
                    Long live the Lionheart! Please watch this video
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=jRDwlR4zbEM
                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3DBaY0RsxU
                    Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory.

                    George S Patton

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