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  • Trump threatens to end Palestinian aid

    About damn time somebody recognized the bribes aren't working...

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...cid=spartandhp

    WASHINGTON (AP) Acknowledging his push to broker peace in the Middle East has stalled, President Donald Trump on Tuesday appeared to threaten to cut off U.S. aid money to the Palestinian Authority, asking why the U.S. should make "any of these massive future payments" when the Palestinians are "no longer willing to talk peace."
    Trump, in a pair of tweets, said the U.S. pays "the Palestinians HUNDRED OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS a year and get no appreciation or respect."
    "They don't even want to negotiate a long overdue ... peace treaty with Israel," he wrote
    .

    But, the Palestinian leadership, such as it is, is upset that the money will stop if they don't actually start negotiating...

    While the Palestinians haven't closed the door to a potential deal with Israel, Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas said the announcement had destroyed Trump's credibility as a Mideast peace broker, calling the decision "a declaration of withdrawal from the role it has played in the peace process."

  • #2
    With Oil Prices down the Royal Families will not be sending as much money to the Palestinians. The Saudis also have a new guy running things. No matter what they say in public, I think this approach has got their attention!

    Pruitt
    Pruitt, you are truly an expert! Kelt06

    Have you been struck by the jawbone of an ASS lately?

    by Khepesh "This is the logic of Pruitt"

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    • #3
      We're giving way more money to Israel, getting nothing in return while they stab us in the back.

      If you want peace, cut Israel's money.
      "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
      - Benjamin Franklin

      The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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      • #4
        Our role in the peace process is to sell Israel anything they need.

        That will bring peace.

        Why the blazes are we giving the Palestinians any money at all? They hate us. Cut the funding.
        Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
          Our role in the peace process is to sell Israel anything they need.

          That will bring peace.

          Why the blazes are we giving the Palestinians any money at all? They hate us. Cut the funding.
          They danced in the streets on 9/11...
          Credo quia absurdum.


          Quantum mechanics describes nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And yet it fully agrees with experiment. So I hope you can accept nature as She is - absurd! - Richard Feynman

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          • #6
            Instead of the Arab countries using the Palestinians as pawns to destroy Israel they might actually show that they care about their welfare and bring them into their own countries.
            But since that's probably never going to happen the US has to use some forceful methods to bring a conclusion to the problems Israel is facing sooner or later.
            Trump may be the best thing ever to happen to Israel.

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            • #7
              Large numbers of Palestinians were displaced into neighboring countries. They are still in Lebanon, Jordan and I think Syria. They were kicked out of Kuwait and I think, Iraq. Being gracious hosts they have refused to allow them citizenship and jobs. They do seem to to get in a lot of schooling in some of the camps.

              Pruitt
              Pruitt, you are truly an expert! Kelt06

              Have you been struck by the jawbone of an ASS lately?

              by Khepesh "This is the logic of Pruitt"

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              • #8
                What I think is overlooked in discussing the Palestinian situation is the failure of Palestinians to establish a practical system to provide those basic necessities that improve the quality of life. Certainly the topic is hinted at but not fully explored.

                Here is a pro Palestinian article on the state of Palestinian infrastructure.



                https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20...for-statehood/

                Even if you grant that ever claim of Israel destroying any hope of the Palestinians developing a modern infrastructure. It is worth noting that every piece of infrastructure mentioned in the article was not of Palestinian origin.

                It is typical of leftist ideology to ignore how wealth is created and focus exclusively on class. The ideology sees the world exclusively in terms of power differences. We are to believe their are only two types of people, the oppressors and the oppressed. History has shown us however that eliminating the theoretical oppressors does not significantly improve the well-being of the oppressed.

                The liberal democracies that have maintained their capitalist traditions have in fact been much more successful at eliminating poverty than any socialist experiment. It is important to point out that there are no Western socialist nations only "capitalist" welfare states.

                To explain the left's dystopian sympathy with the Palestinian cause it is important to note that the Arab states have never seemed to have the best interests of the Palestinian people as a priority. So why would there be so little criticism of the oppressive Arab Muslim states by the left? The answer is two fold. First by Marxist creed the left must hate liberal democracy. Second the left by psychological orientation rejects meritocracy. The Eastern hierarchical system of class obligations in place of individual rights is more compatible with socialist ideology than liberal democracy. The unfortunate concept of Islamaphobia illustrates the intentionally conflation of religion and race in order to establish a false premise of class power struggle. As happens with every socialist experiment the actual welfare of the oppressed is secondary to implementation of the ideology by any means necessary.
                We hunt the hunters

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
                  We're giving way more money to Israel, getting nothing in return while they stab us in the back.

                  If you want peace, cut Israel's money.
                  How does Israel "stab us in the back"?
                  "I don't discuss sitting presidents," Mattis tells NPR in an interview. "I believe that you owe a period of quiet."

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Nichols View Post
                    How does Israel "stab us in the back"?
                    They willfully persist in being Jews.

                    To some that has always been a crime.
                    Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
                      What I think is overlooked in discussing the Palestinian situation is the failure of Palestinians to establish a practical system to provide those basic necessities that improve the quality of life. Certainly the topic is hinted at but not fully explored.

                      Here is a pro Palestinian article on the state of Palestinian infrastructure.



                      https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20...for-statehood/

                      Even if you grant that ever claim of Israel destroying any hope of the Palestinians developing a modern infrastructure. It is worth noting that every piece of infrastructure mentioned in the article was not of Palestinian origin.

                      It is typical of leftist ideology to ignore how wealth is created and focus exclusively on class. The ideology sees the world exclusively in terms of power differences. We are to believe their are only two types of people, the oppressors and the oppressed. History has shown us however that eliminating the theoretical oppressors does not significantly improve the well-being of the oppressed.

                      The liberal democracies that have maintained their capitalist traditions have in fact been much more successful at eliminating poverty than any socialist experiment. It is important to point out that there are no Western socialist nations only "capitalist" welfare states.

                      To explain the left's dystopian sympathy with the Palestinian cause it is important to note that the Arab states have never seemed to have the best interests of the Palestinian people as a priority. So why would there be so little criticism of the oppressive Arab Muslim states by the left? The answer is two fold. First by Marxist creed the left must hate liberal democracy. Second the left by psychological orientation rejects meritocracy. The Eastern hierarchical system of class obligations in place of individual rights is more compatible with socialist ideology than liberal democracy. The unfortunate concept of Islamaphobia illustrates the intentionally conflation of religion and race in order to establish a false premise of class power struggle. As happens with every socialist experiment the actual welfare of the oppressed is secondary to implementation of the ideology by any means necessary.
                      Well put. Using theories from the left to explain the left.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
                        They willfully persist in being Jews.

                        To some that has always been a crime.


                        And don't forget that they seem to be intolerant of having buses blown up, rockets fired into population centers or other forms of terrorist attacks.
                        If they would just stop fighting back, I'm sure everything would be nice and peaceful over there.
                        Avatar is General Gerard, courtesy of Zouave.

                        Churchill to Chamberlain: you had a choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor, and you will have war.

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                        • #13
                          Fair enough. No point paying someone if they don't do want you want them to do.
                          "To be free is better than to be unfree - always."

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                          • #14
                            Bravo. **** em, they lost, they are losers, and they won't accept that fact.

                            The world has moved on. You had your chance and you blew it. You'll never "drive the Jews into the sea" and Israel is our closest friend in the region.

                            Let em (Israel) off the chain and sell em whatever they need.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Nichols View Post
                              How does Israel "stab us in the back"?
                              We've already been through this, just search previous threads on Israel. They're backstabbers and extremely untrustworthy.
                              "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
                              - Benjamin Franklin

                              The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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