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  • “a collective eclipse of the mind.”

    Ain’t that the truth...

    MOSCOW — For months, President Vladimir V. Putin has predictably denied accusations of Russian interference in last year’s American election, denouncing them as fake news fueled by Russophobic hysteria.
    More surprising, some of Mr. Putin’s biggest foes in Russia, notably pro-Western liberals who look to the United States as an exemplar of democratic values and journalistic excellence, are now joining a chorus of protest over America’s fixation with Moscow’s meddling in its political affairs.
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    “Enough already!” Leonid M. Volkov, chief of staff for the anti-corruption campaigner and opposition leader Aleksei A. Navalny, wrote in a recent anguished post on Facebook. “What is happening with ‘the investigation into Russian interference,’ is not just a disgrace but a collective eclipse of the mind.”
    What most disturbs Mr. Putin’s critics about what they see as America’s Russia fever is that it reinforces a narrative put forth tirelessly by the state-controlled Russian news media. On television, in newspapers and on websites, Mr. Putin is portrayed as an ever-victorious master strategist who has led Russia — an economic, military and demographic weakling compared with the United States — from triumph to triumph on the world stage.
    “The Kremlin is of course very proud of this whole Russian interference story. It shows they are not just a group of old K.G.B. guys with no understanding of digital but an almighty force from a James Bond saga,” Mr. Volkov said in a telephone interview. “This image is very bad for us. Putin is not a master geopolitical genius.”
    Mr. Volkov and others say they have no doubt that Russia did interfere, at least on the margins, in last year’s presidential election campaign. But they complain that the United States consistently inflates Mr. Putin’s impact and portrays his government as far more unified and effective than it really is, cementing his legacy and making him harder to challenge at home.
    Ultimately, they say, Americans are using Russia as a scapegoat to explain the deep political discord in the United States. That has left many westward-leaning Russians, who have long looked to America for their ideals, in bitter disappointment that the United States seems to be mimicking some of their own country’s least appealing traits.
    The hunt for a hidden Russian hand behind President Trump’s election victory has caused particular disquiet among liberal-minded Russian journalists.
    “The image of Putin’s Russia constructed by Western and, above all, American media outlets over the past 18 months shocks even the most anti-Putin reader in Russia,” Oleg V. Kashin, a journalist critical of the Kremlin, wrote last week in Republic, a Russian news site. He complained that the American media has consistently misconstrued the way Russia works, presenting marginal opportunists and self-interested businessmen with no real link to the Kremlin as state-controlled agents working on orders from Mr. Putin.
    Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.

  • #2
    Nice thread title.

    I no more believe anything Putin says that I believe that my dogs actually speak English.
    Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?


    • #3
      Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post

      But what the Russians are (deliberately?) skipping past is the fact that
      1- It isn't america or the entire Media, it is Democrats, it is the LEFT that is saying all that,
      2- they did it to themselves, and now Chickens are coming home to roost.

      All that hacking sure didn't help, and even if it was Awan doing from the inside (remember him?) the fact that Russians hack away at everything else in the USA means they are guilty of leaving themselves open for just that kind of charge.

      If they can't tell the difference between one side of US politics and the other, then they might want to stay out of the game completely.

      And as for the Left, what we have today is an offshoot of the same crap they were promoting from 1918 to 1991.
      That Marxist-Lenninist ideology dictated that everyone has to hate their own Country, tear it down, and pave the way for an international future. And the Left we have today Apes that very ideal, with the EU in Europe and with the media in ALL Western nations equating Nationalism with Racism and ever other foul lie they can tell about anyone that lives like a Patriot.

      Much as they wish to avoid thinking of it, this is the reality for Russia.
      They might want to do something about all of this... someday.


      • #4
        Speaking of the Awan scandal, where did that one go? Nothing now...


        • #5
          Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
          Nothing now...
          Oh, the usual thing; since the cover-up didn't work they will just drag it out and delay delay delay ... until they can rip into anyone that mentions it and wail; "But that's old news!" or "we already de-bunked that" when indeed nothing was debunked but only counter-rumored.
          They wrote the book when it comes to making an old rumor look like the truth.... to idiots.


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