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  • Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
    Since always. It is only a crime if you get caught. There's no one really checking up on them. Oh, sure their PO will ask them 'sticking by the rules?" when they check in, and why would a convicted felon lie?

    You are a stuck record because people keep telling you 1+1=2 and you keep says 'nuh-uh! Its 3.24987!'
    So according to You paroled felons have the right to be armed,
    Please explain these stories.

    Two convicted felons arrested for having a rifle and ammunition

    http://www.mercedsunstar.com/news/article144534669.html

    Man on parole arrested after gun found beside his car
    http://www.pbcommercial.com/article/...NEWS/308189951

    Man on parole arrested after gun found
    http://www.pbcommercial.com/news/201...fter-gun-found

    You just said this just doesnít happen...
    Either you are wrong or the several thousand news stories that I found in seconds on the internet are fake news.
    Last edited by Urban hermit; 10 Nov 17, 23:02.
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    • I guess thecAir Force didnít get your memo AJ


      U.S. Air Force Secretary Dr. Heather Wilson said that the Air Force is "moving very forward, very quickly" with its investigation into Texas church shooter Devin Patrick Kelley's ability to purchase weapons, which may have resulted from an Air Force error.

      "The offenses for which the shooter in Texas was court martialed should have been reported and that's why we launched a full-scale review of this case and all others like it," Wilson said Thursday afternoon during a Pentagon news conference discussing the current state and future goals of the Air Force.

      The shooting on Sunday at the First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas left 26 people dead and wounded an additional 20.

      Although Kelley, 26, received a bad conduct discharge from the Air Force, he was still able to purchase at least two guns after passing background checks. The discharge should have prevented him from being able to purchase the weapons.

      On Monday, just one day following the shooting, the Air Force revealed that its Office of Special Investigations did not report Kelley's name to the National Criminal Information Center after he pleaded guilty to two counts of domestic violence in 2013.

      "Our approach here is to act in accordance with our values, which include integrity and excellence," Wilson said, calling the shooting "heartbreaking."

      According to Wilson, the Air Force has interviewed about 100 individuals involved in the case.

      The Air Force has also begun examining two of its databases -- an electronic version which houses data dating back to 2002 and an additional hard copy that goes back to 1996. Wilson described the process as "very labor intensive," but explained that the investigation is looking broadly to prioritize "flags and issues" that are identified within the databases.

      "Our responsibility is to look at what happened here, and why," she said.

      Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. David Goldfein backed Wilson's information and mourned those killed, adding that 12 of the 26 victims in the shooting have connections to the Air Force.

      Goldfein will travel to San Antonio next week and said that the Air Force is extending resources to the victims' families.

      The Air Force officials said that a draft report on the case may be expected "sometime next week."
      https://www.cbsnews.com/news/air-for...tag=MSF0951a18
      Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.

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      • Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
        So according to You paroled felons have the right to be armed,
        Please explain these stories.

        You just said this just doesnít happen...
        Either you are wrong or the several thousand news stories that I found in seconds on the internet are fake news.
        No, I said it is not a crime unless you are caught. In other words, to draw you a very simple picture: convicted felons are seldom impressed by the law.

        And since they have a right against unreasonable search (the Bill of Rights, ever heard of it?), the only time their possession comes to light is by chance or criminal use of said firearm.

        Every time we have a mass shooting you start wetting yourself. It's a rough world, UH: start carrying a weapon, or make your peace with the Lord. I recommend both.
        Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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        • Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
          I guess thecAir Force didnít get your memo AJ
          That's a stock press release.

          They are 'moving forward very quickly'. I've used that line more than once.

          It means nothing. Where is 'forward'? When is 'very quickly'?

          And nothing addressing a change in the retention, release, and long-term keeper-of-records issues that are required by civilian courts before they will accept military court rulings as valid.

          'Very quickly' means 'several serious-sounding memos and waiting for the press to lose interest, which is only days away'.

          Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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          • Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
            No, I said it is not a crime unless you are caught. In other words, to draw you a very simple picture: convicted felons are seldom impressed by the law.

            And since they have a right against unreasonable search (the Bill of Rights, ever heard of it?), the only time their possession comes to light is by chance or criminal use of said firearm.

            Every time we have a mass shooting you start wetting yourself. It's a rough world, UH: start carrying a weapon, or make your peace with the Lord. I recommend both.
            AJ, Iím not wetting myself. We are discussing current events. I realize it is a rough world, I do arm myself. I have made my peace with God.
            I also believe that if there is a law on the books that gives LEOs an edge, they should use it.
            Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.

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            • Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
              AJ, Iím not wetting myself. We are discussing current events. I realize it is a rough world, I do arm myself. I have made my peace with God.
              I also believe that if there is a law on the books that gives LEOs an edge, they should use it.


              Only. The. Feds. Can. Enforce. It.

              They. Don't. Have. The. Manpower. And. The. Elements. Of. The. Offense. Make. It. Difficult. To. Prosecute.

              You. Have. Had. This. Explained. To. You. Numerous. Times. Before. But. You. Refuse. To. Grasp. Reality.
              Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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              • Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post


                Only. The. Feds. Can. Enforce. It.

                They. Don't. Have. The. Manpower. And. The. Elements. Of. The. Offense. Make. It. Difficult. To. Prosecute.

                You. Have. Had. This. Explained. To. You. Numerous. Times. Before. But. You. Refuse. To. Grasp. Reality.
                There. Are. Thousands. Of. Cases. Of. Paroles. Being. Busted. For. Violations. Of. Parole. By. Police. Officers. It. Happens. Everyday.
                Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.

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                • Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
                  There. Are. Thousands. Of. Cases. Of. Paroles. Being. Busted. For. Violations. Of. Parole. By. Police. Officers. It. Happens. Everyday.


                  For parolees who were convicted under that officer's state's code, sure.

                  The shooter was committed by a military court, which (unless it has changed) has no parole system. Given he had a one-year commitment to a mental institution, it's questionable if it would be a felony, since being mentally ill is not a crime, the institution was not a penal facility, the institution was out-of-state, and a one-year sentence in Texas is a misdemeanor.

                  You are still not grasping that there are 52 criminal codes in the USA. The Feds generally cannot enforce state law, and state & local agencies only enforce their state's code.

                  It is certainly not 'one size fits all'.
                  Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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