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  • Graham defends McCain from Trump attack

    Two liberal and two conservative senators debating health care were united on at least one point Monday evening: defending Sen. John McCain from a tweeted attack from President Trump

    In response to a tweeted against the Arizona Republican, Graham said McCain has earned the right to "do whatever the damn hell he wants to."

    During Grahamís CNN debate with Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Amy Klobuchar (D-D-Minn.) and Bill Cassidy, (R-La.) Trump tweeted video clips of McCain promising to repeal and replace ObamaCare.

    Trump tweeted: "My oh my has he changed-complete turn from years of talk!"
    http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare...m-trump-attack

    "To any American who has a problem with John McCainís vote, all I can tell you is John McCain was willing to die for this country, and he can vote any way he wants to, and it doesn't matter to me," Graham said of his friend.

    Grahamís comments were applauded by the other three senators.

  • #2
    Trump DEMANDS loyalty. If there is a lack of loyalty apparent in the civilian world, Trump merely fires the malcreant.

    I have some bad news for you, Trumpie, old fellow, it don't work that way in the Gov't. You have to work with these people and they don't depend on you to get reelected.

    GG
    "The will of a section rooted in self interest, should not outweigh the vital interests of a whole people." -Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain-

    "Fanatics of any sort are dangerous." -GG-

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    • #3
      Nothing special : birds of a feather flock together .Graham is only McCain with another name .Both have received money from people working for Soros . That means that both are RINOS .

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      • #4
        Well, if McCain runs for reelection, he won't be getting my vote...

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ljadw View Post
          Nothing special : birds of a feather flock together .Graham is only McCain with another name .Both have received money from people working for Soros . That means that both are RINOS .
          When most Republicans are RINOs, maybe one needs to adjust their measuring stick.

          "He's just another socialist - he breathes oxygen!"

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Grognard Gunny View Post
            Trump DEMANDS loyalty. If there is a lack of loyalty apparent in the civilian world, Trump merely fires the malcreant.

            I have some bad news for you, Trumpie, old fellow, it don't work that way in the Gov't. You have to work with these people and they don't depend on you to get reelected.

            GG
            It's the corporate mindset, I feel. He's struggled to understand that congress are not just another company department but possess hundreds of individuals with their own needs. Their goals are not automatically his goals, and he needs to do more to sell his product to them - mockery on social media doesn't win people over.

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            • #7
              I respect John McCain's service, but he's still an idiot.

              My worst jump story:
              My 13th jump was on the 13th day of the month, aircraft number 013.
              As recorded on my DA Form 1307 Individual Jump Log.
              No lie.

              ~
              "Everything looks all right. Have a good jump, eh."
              -2 Commando Jumpmaster

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Daemon of Decay View Post
                When most Republicans are RINOs, maybe one needs to adjust their measuring stick.

                "He's just another socialist - he breathes oxygen!"
                Exactly. On another site I frequent, one poster called Paul Ryan a RINO. I told him that as Speaker of the House he was second in line of succession and had been voted in by his fellow Republicans and he still wouldn't concede the point.

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                • #9
                  Oh, it is only Phil Graham. Well, these too once Presidential contenders are clearly suffering from "Sore Loser Syndrome," and that has been clear (by their attacks) since Trump became President.

                  In short, nothing to see here.

                  Tuebor

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Grognard Gunny View Post
                    Trump DEMANDS loyalty. If there is a lack of loyalty apparent in the civilian world, Trump merely fires the malcreant.

                    I have some bad news for you, Trumpie, old fellow, it don't work that way in the Gov't. You have to work with these people and they don't depend on you to get reelected.

                    GG
                    Some of them do. And Trump doesn't care because he will still be very rich long after he was president, while nobody will remember McCain except as a whiner and a complainer.

                    How much good do you think could be accomplished if Congress creatures and Senators stopped whining and got to work for America, instead of themselves. McCain, like many others, is part of the problem and not part of any solution.
                    Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by johns624 View Post
                      Exactly. On another site I frequent, one poster called Paul Ryan a RINO. I told him that as Speaker of the House he was second in line of succession and had been voted in by his fellow Republicans and he still wouldn't concede the point.
                      Probably because being a RINO has nothing at all to do with his position in the line of succession, anymore than his pants size or his drivers license does. You should know that.
                      Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                        Probably because being a RINO has nothing at all to do with his position in the line of succession, anymore than his pants size or his drivers license does. You should know that.
                        You miss the point. He can't be a RINO because all the Republican (except for 9) voted for him as Speaker. That means that all of them must be RINOs, which would make the GOP nonexistent.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by johns624 View Post
                          You miss the point. He can't be a RINO because all the Republican (except for 9) voted for him as Speaker. That means that all of them must be RINOs, which would make the GOP nonexistent.
                          No, what it would mean is that the people shouting "RINO!" have it backwards - those they call RINO actually represent the GOP, while it is those they hold up as true stalwarts who are the actual RINOs.

                          If the majority of the GOP are RINOs, then that RINO ideology is in fact the true GOP ideology, and it is those opposing them who have become, in effect, the actual RINOs by opposing the mainstream.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                            Some of them do. And Trump doesn't care because he will still be very rich long after he was president, while nobody will remember McCain except as a whiner and a complainer.

                            How much good do you think could be accomplished if Congress creatures and Senators stopped whining and got to work for America, instead of themselves. McCain, like many others, is part of the problem and not part of any solution.
                            All politicians are part of the problem. That is their role: being state-sanctioned arbiters of trouble.

                            There is no such thing as a good politician, just a tolerated one. The myth that any of the bloodsuckers in Washington are doing anything other than benefiting themselves has yet to die. But the people like to believe they are making a difference and that their guy, the one they voted for, is somehow different.

                            That there are people who still believe that putting Obama or Trump into office would lead to some sort of broadly recognized positive "change" amuses me to no end - as much as it does the belief that their opponents would have been that much worse!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Daemon of Decay View Post
                              When most Republicans are RINOs, maybe one needs to adjust their measuring stick.

                              "He's just another socialist - he breathes oxygen!"
                              Graham has supported McMullin as candidate,although he had no chance to be elected, he was only candidating to prevent the official GOP candidate (= Trump ) to be elected, what would result in the election of Hillary .

                              When Obama was president, the GOP officially opposed Obamacare, now when they have the opportunity to repeal Obamacare, liberal GOP senators (Collins, Murkowski, ,McCain )are supporting Obamacare ,which means that they lied in the past .And Graham defends McCain .

                              As the Democrats are going,as fast and as far as they can, to the left , the GOP has no other choice to go as fast and as far as possibly,to the right .The last years the GOP has moved from the center to the center left:it should remember what happened in Germany,when the CDU/CSU also was going to the center left .If the GOP continues its current policy, it will disappear .Bipartisanship (= collaborating with the Democrats) is suicidal .

                              The RINOS must choose : their electors or the money from Soros .

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