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  • #61
    Originally posted by craven View Post
    yep that exactly what I would do

    Trump is weak politically anything to Troll Trump is a good thing at this point for Kim (of course China may actually be holding his leash tighter so might not happen)

    Trumps Plate is overflowing currently domestic issues Iran pushing buttons Korea South America (glad I am not in charge of this mess.)
    All that mess being left-overs spilled off of someone else's plate ...
    TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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    • #62
      Bannon undermines the work of both the SecDef and SecState on Korea.

      Bannon is a menace.

      http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/...cid=spartandhp
      We are not now that strength which in old days
      Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
      Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
      To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
        All that mess being left-overs spilled off of someone else's plate ...
        That's immaterial. All that is doing is blaming a predecessor (or predecessors) and not getting the job at hand done.

        In short, it's just an excuse.

        And it's what Obama did for years with Bush.

        Is that what you recommend?
        We are not now that strength which in old days
        Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
        Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
        To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Massena View Post
          Bannon undermines the work of both the SecDef and SecState on Korea.

          Bannon is a menace.

          http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/...cid=spartandhp
          Good. The administration is making it clear to a thug that thuggery on his part will get him a beat down on our part. The usual Progressive weasel talk about compromise and not wanting to use the military or force gets you nothing.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Massena View Post
            That's immaterial. All that is doing is blaming a predecessor (or predecessors) and not getting the job at hand done.
            Your opinion, which we've seen doesn't match with many others here.

            More a case of botching the job or leaving a rube-goldberg mess of a non-solution, or worse. And as a claimed US history teacher you should know and be honest about the legislation and regulations of one administration remaining in effect thru to the next.

            Some are "good", for a while at least, like Social Security which has had few challenges, though questionable "enhancements"~expansion. Then there are pure cluster-f**ks like EPA regs (under Obama's sign-off) that set compliance levels below normal/natural background levels.

            Originally posted by Massena View Post
            In short, it's just an excuse.
            Or an explaination if the new POTUS has to undo screw-ups of the prior. Like the "apeasement" deals done with Iran and North Korea.

            Originally posted by Massena View Post
            And it's what Obama did for years with Bush.
            First term it could have been "explaination", since Obama's agenda was counter conservative, in some cases. By second term it is looking more like "excuse".

            Originally posted by Massena View Post
            Is that what you recommend?
            I need more details on what your mean by "what" and "recommend" Kemosabe. You lines preceeding were too generic.

            What I "recommend" (have) is that the POTUS isn't a dictator; has limited abilities when not working with Congress, assuming Congress is willing to work with POTUS (constant variable matrix); and inherits a legacy of Laws and Regulations from prior POTUS(s) which the new POTUS will either build upon, alter, or abolish, depending upon the platform/agenda of prior versus current.
            TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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            • #66
              I said this a while back:

              Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
              Well, if I were betting, I'd expect the little troll to try something that gets the world's attention, and possibly makes the US look bad.

              I'd fire another ICBM, without warhead deep into the Pacific, more or less towards Guam, but not to hit anything but open ocean and see what the US does in response to that.

              Would the US shoot it down? That would give N. Korea a tremendous propaganda boost at home. "We tested a missile and the US illegally shot it down..."
              Would the US watch but take no action? Again, a propaganda win for NK: "We successfully tested a missile that could have hit Guam, but we missed intentionally..."

              Stand by on this one...
              Well, the troll tested the waters firing an IRBM over Japan, most likely to see what the response would be. Now that he knows, I'm betting the ICBM test shot to land in the Pacific near Guam is coming next...

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              • #67
                It's more like "a battle of children"..... Just sayin'.

                GG
                "The will of a section rooted in self interest, should not outweigh the vital interests of a whole people." -Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain-

                "Fanatics of any sort are dangerous." -GG-

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by PhilipLaos View Post
                  Today's statements from both sides now clearly define this as a battle of egos: Trump vs. Kim (or, as Bill Maher puts it: Fat Man vs. Little Boy).

                  Here is a likely scenario in the upcoming few days as I see it:

                  Mid Aug: Kim does not launch the 4 promised missiles towards Guam. TRUMP WINS. He stared down the NK leader and the NK leader blinked,

                  Mid Aug: Kim launches his 4 missiles at Guam and they are all shot down. TRUMP WINS. "You can't hurt us".

                  Kim launches 4 missiles at Guam and one or more get through. Trump offers no military response. KIM WINS He has demonstrated his capability of hurting the US.

                  Trump retaliates by destroying all the known nuclear and missile facilities in North Korea. Kim makes no major military response. TRUMP WINS.

                  North Korea responds by launching attacks south of the DMZ and on Seoul. Trump responds with an all out attack on North Korea prompting a full-scale war on the peninsula.

                  TRUMP LOSES In that he will be blamed for the hundreds of thousands of deaths that will be traced back to his "They will face fire and fury the like of which the world has never seen" speech.

                  KIM LOSES in that his country has been wiped from the map.

                  Something like that. Please agree or disagree and give details.

                  Philip

                  Just want to conclude this thread with the fact that TRUMP WON without a missile being fired.
                  All options listed in the OP include military action of some sort.

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                  • #69
                    "without a missile being fired" YET.....I see in the "fake news" that Kim is doing some refinishing work on some of his launch sites......You sure you didn't get snookered Mr Trump....not the first time NK has lied...

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Percy Coburg View Post


                      Just want to conclude this thread with the fact that TRUMP WON without a missile being fired.
                      All options listed in the OP include military action of some sort.
                      ???????????????????????????? What did Trump win? Was there something pertinent in writing?
                      "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                      Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                      you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                      • #71
                        Trump didn't 'win' anything. He was completely taken in by Kim and got nothing buy a piece of paper than is absolutely worthless. He complained, ad infinitum, about Obama's Iran agreement, but what he 'won' from Kim is a big nothing.
                        We are not now that strength which in old days
                        Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                        Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                        To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Percy Coburg View Post


                          Just want to conclude this thread with the fact that TRUMP WON without a missile being fired.
                          All options listed in the OP include military action of some sort.
                          Yup. All the frightened hand-wringing and terrified bleating from the left notwithstanding.
                          Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                          • #73
                            Kim cancelled their annual "anti-US imperialism" rally marking the start of the Korean War.

                            It's held each year for the entire month of July. They hold all kinds of anti-US Korean War rallies and events. North Korea celebrates it as a national holiday, what they call it translates to "Victory in the Fatherland Liberation War" in English.
                            "Stand for the flag ~ Kneel for the fallen"

                            "A wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a fool can learn from a wise answer." ~ Bruce Lee

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                            • #74
                              Flag: USA / Location: West Coast

                              Prayers.

                              BoRG

                              http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8757/snap1ws8.jpg

                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PtsX_Z3CMU

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                              • #75
                                Interesting article on the problem with trusting Kim on 'denuclearization.' The bottom line is that he cannot be trusted.

                                https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...cid=spartandhp
                                We are not now that strength which in old days
                                Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                                Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                                To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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