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  • #46
    Originally posted by ljadw View Post
    The AG serves at the pleasure of the president and can be fired by him at any moment, for whatever reason .

    Example : in 1952 Truman fired Mcgrath because he did something Truman disliked .
    But that does not mean that the Justice Department is not independent. The Attorney General is not the president's lawyer. And the Attorney General obeys the Constitution, not the president. The same goes for the Director of the FBI. The FBI is not the president's police force.
    We are not now that strength which in old days
    Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
    Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
    To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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    • #47
      Why waste your time on a stone wall?
      "Ask not what your country can do for you"

      Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

      you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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      • #48
        It is irritating when someone who knows nothing about the United States and its government continues to post nonsense.

        And that goes for his 'understanding' of Europe before, during and after War II.
        We are not now that strength which in old days
        Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
        Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
        To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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        • #49
          Who would that be ? Maybe the poster who claimed that the father-in-law of the president is a communist ?

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Massena View Post
            But that does not mean that the Justice Department is not independent. The Attorney General is not the president's lawyer. And the Attorney General obeys the Constitution, not the president. The same goes for the Director of the FBI. The FBI is not the president's police force.
            If the AG disagrees with the president, he has only one option : to resign .

            The same for the director of the FBI .

            If the president is not satisfied with the AG, the AG will be fired .

            The same for the chief of the FBI .

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            • #51
              Put him on ignore. There are many people here who I sometimes disagree with, but we can occasionally come to a consensus, which keeps it interesting. But if someone just keeps repeating the same party line, it's useless to even interact with them.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by johns624 View Post
                Put him on ignore. There are many people here who I sometimes disagree with, but we can occasionally come to a consensus, which keeps it interesting. But if someone just keeps repeating the same party line, it's useless to even interact with them.
                Hear, hear.

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                • #53
                  http://metro.co.uk/2015/10/30/donald...e-him-5470817/
                  "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                  Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                  you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by ljadw View Post
                    If the AG disagrees with the president, he has only one option : to resign .

                    The same for the director of the FBI .

                    If the president is not satisfied with the AG, the AG will be fired .

                    The same for the chief of the FBI .
                    wrong wrong wrong

                    In the US there a couple of roles that the FBI and AG are not to follow the direction of the president.

                    ie when it comes to enforcing the law or conducting investigations.

                    The president gets to set overall policy at a strategic level but the AG and FBI director main duty is to the law. The president does not get to micromanage things especially things which may be of a political nature.

                    Now if the AG is not following the strategic direction then the AG can be fired but not over a specific investigation. Unless they screwed up the investigation ie got people killed.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by johns624 View Post
                      ... snippet ... But if someone just keeps repeating the same party line, it's useless to even interact with them.
                      Exactly how I feel sometimes dealing with the Loonie-Left, TDS posters here.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by craven View Post
                        wrong wrong wrong

                        In the US there a couple of roles that the FBI and AG are not to follow the direction of the president.

                        ie when it comes to enforcing the law or conducting investigations.

                        The president gets to set overall policy at a strategic level but the AG and FBI director main duty is to the law. The president does not get to micromanage things especially things which may be of a political nature.

                        Now if the AG is not following the strategic direction then the AG can be fired but not over a specific investigation. Unless they screwed up the investigation ie got people killed.
                        Executive appointed office are "at will" and the POTUS can fire/discharge for any reason. That may not always be wise, but these "jobs" come with no guarantee of "perpetual" employment.

                        BTW, may want to consdier the prior POTUS "influence" on immigration policies, investigation(s) into Hillary Clinton, or brush off regards "Fast and Furious" which did cost lives.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
                          Exactly how I feel sometimes dealing with the Loonie-Left, TDS posters here.
                          Perhaps that 's how people feel who have to deal with nothing but admiration for a greatly flawed president who can do no wrong in their eyes, despite his horrendous record.
                          We are not now that strength which in old days
                          Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                          Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                          To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
                            Executive appointed office are "at will" and the POTUS can fire/discharge for any reason. That may not always be wise, but these "jobs" come with no guarantee of "perpetual" employment.

                            BTW, may want to consdier the prior POTUS "influence" on immigration policies, investigation(s) into Hillary Clinton, or brush off regards "Fast and Furious" which did cost lives.
                            Bold for emphasis...

                            Wrong!

                            If an FBI director (or any other investigator) is fired to impede an investigation, the president can be impeached for obstruction of justice.
                            Last edited by pamak; 10 Aug 17, 16:06.
                            My most dangerous mission: I landed in the middle of an enemy tank battalion and I immediately, started spraying bullets killing everybody around me having fun up until my computer froze...

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by pamak View Post
                              Bold for emphasis...

                              Wrong!

                              If an FBI director (or any other investigator) is fired to impede an investigation, the president can be impeached for obstruction of justice.
                              Not wrong : Potus can fire at will .

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                              • #60
                                POTUS to any of his "appointees" deamed not wothty ... "Good Bye" ... !!!

                                Picking a workable and usable Staff can be a bit dicey, .. may employ some "try and see" elements not always cleart to outsiders ...

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