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  • #31
    Originally posted by ljadw View Post
    Mueller was FBI director from 2001 to 2013,in 2001 he declared his wealth as $1.8 million ,in 2011 $7 million .

    What is the salary of a FBI director ?
    As usual you are not making your point clear and you are not posting references. In any case, Mueller is easily one of the most highly regarded legal minds in the country. Top flight lawyers are not exactly known for living in three bedroom, 2,000 square feet, thirty year old ranch homes in middle class neighborhoods or for driving Honda Civics. So, unless you can actually prove that Mueller arrived at his wealth illegally, like working for Russian intelligence against the interests of the U.S. Government for example, I do not see what is particularly shocking about Mueller's personal wealth increasing by $5.2 million over a period of twelve years. Now, if you want someone whose wealth is shady, look no further than the Donald.

    http://www.npr.org/2017/05/15/528486...llow-the-money
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    • #32
      Originally posted by ljadw View Post
      There is no comparison possible between both . Mueller must be impartial, Trump's lawyer not .

      The appointment of Mueller was political motivated . Someone who is investigating the president must have a clean past ,something Mueller has not .
      It is actually against Federal government employment polic to even CONSIDER a persons political affiliation when it comes to who is hired and who is not. So if Mr Mueller HAD considered who or what they had donated to it would have been a violation of long standing federal regulations.

      https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/28/42.1

      § 42.1 Policy.
      (a) It is the policy of the Department of Justice to seek to eliminate discrimination on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, sexual orientation, national origin, marital status, political affiliation, age, or physical or mental handicap in employment within the Department and to assure equal employment opportunity for all employees and applicants for employment.

      (b) No person shall be subject to retaliation for opposing any practice prohibited by the above policy or for participating in any stage of administrative or judicial proceedings related to this policy.
      Federal courts have rules that political donations fall with in the term "political affiliations".
      “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
      “To talk of many things:
      Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
      Of cabbages—and kings—
      And why the sea is boiling hot—
      And whether pigs have wings.”
      ― Lewis Carroll

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Bass_Man86 View Post
        As usual you are not making your point clear and you are not posting references. In any case, Mueller is easily one of the most highly regarded legal minds in the country. Top flight lawyers are not exactly known for living in three bedroom, 2,000 square feet, thirty year old ranch homes in middle class neighborhoods or for driving Honda Civics. So, unless you can actually prove that Mueller arrived at his wealth illegally, like working for Russian intelligence against the interests of the U.S. Government for example, I do not see what is particularly shocking about Mueller's personal wealth increasing by $5.2 million over a period of twelve years. Now, if you want someone whose wealth is shady, look no further than the Donald.

        http://www.npr.org/2017/05/15/528486...llow-the-money
        This period coincided with Mueller's appointment as chief of FBI :how can the chief of FBI earn $ 5.2 million in 12 years ? He was not a top lawyer during these years . Did he earn annually $ 460000 after taxes ?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by ljadw View Post
          This period coincided with Mueller's appointment as chief of FBI :how can the chief of FBI earn $ 5.2 million in 12 years ? He was not a top lawyer during these years . Did he earn annually $ 460000 after taxes ?
          You have not even proved that the figures you've show are even real. So before we can demonstrate anything, please provide the source of your figures.
          “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
          “To talk of many things:
          Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
          Of cabbages—and kings—
          And why the sea is boiling hot—
          And whether pigs have wings.”
          ― Lewis Carroll

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
            It is actually against Federal government employment polic to even CONSIDER a persons political affiliation when it comes to who is hired and who is not. So if Mr Mueller HAD considered who or what they had donated to it would have been a violation of long standing federal regulations.

            https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/28/42.1



            Federal courts have rules that political donations fall with in the term "political affiliations".
            I did not mention political donations :Rhee worked for Holder (an enemy of Trump ) and for the Clinton Foundation,run by an enemy of Trump .

            If the investigation on the Democratic governor of Illinois ,who tried to sell the senate seat of Obama on E Bay,was done exclusively by Republicans, the Democrats would be running around yelling . That the members of the Mueller team are opponents of Trump is also proved by the fact that they leaked as sieves .

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            • #36
              Originally posted by ljadw View Post
              I did not mention political donations :Rhee worked for Holder (an enemy of Trump ) and for the Clinton Foundation,run by an enemy of Trump .

              If the investigation on the Democratic governor of Illinois ,who tried to sell the senate seat of Obama on E Bay,was done exclusively by Republicans, the Democrats would be running around yelling . That the members of the Mueller team are opponents of Trump is also proved by the fact that they leaked as sieves .
              And none of those are reasons to disqualify someone. Really not complicated. Just because YOU think they are, does not make it so.
              “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
              “To talk of many things:
              Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
              Of cabbages—and kings—
              And why the sea is boiling hot—
              And whether pigs have wings.”
              ― Lewis Carroll

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              • #37
                Originally posted by ljadw View Post
                Nice try

                What we have here is an investigation on Trump by people who worked for his opponents .These people should recuse themselves .
                um Mueller is a Republican next

                they why is Trump using people who donated to Clinton to defend him


                lawyers are a weird breed in that they can separate things. They might think your guilty as hell but they still defend you. A prosecutor might think your a evil villain but still let you off if the evidence is not there.


                btw I think the leaking is purely in response to Trump not being bright enough to shut up. and lets go back to the Ken Star investigation if you want to discuss potential partisan issues.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by craven View Post
                  um Mueller is a Republican next

                  they why is Trump using people who donated to Clinton to defend him


                  lawyers are a weird breed in that they can separate things. They might think your guilty as hell but they still defend you. A prosecutor might think your a evil villain but still let you off if the evidence is not there.


                  btw I think the leaking is purely in response to Trump not being bright enough to shut up. and lets go back to the Ken Star investigation if you want to discuss potential partisan issues.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
                    And none of those are reasons to disqualify someone. Really not complicated. Just because YOU think they are, does not make it so.
                    Thus,you will agree when Trump will appoint Giuliani to head an investigation on Hillary ?

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by ljadw View Post
                      Thus,you will agree when Trump will appoint Giuliani to head an investigation on Hillary ?
                      The President does not appoint investigators.
                      “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
                      “To talk of many things:
                      Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
                      Of cabbages—and kings—
                      And why the sea is boiling hot—
                      And whether pigs have wings.”
                      ― Lewis Carroll

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
                        The President does not appoint investigators.
                        Correct-the Justice Department does.
                        We are not now that strength which in old days
                        Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                        Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                        To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                        • #42
                          Which is the same : in a normal situation, DOJ is doing what the president orders .

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by ljadw View Post
                            Which is the same : in a normal situation, DOJ is doing what the president orders .
                            No.

                            The Justice Department and the FBI are independent organizations and do not comply with what the president 'orders.' In point of fact, it would be wrong for the president to order them to do anything.

                            If what you are saying were true, there would be no special counsel. Mueller was appointed by the Justice Department, not the president.
                            We are not now that strength which in old days
                            Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                            Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                            To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Massena View Post
                              No.

                              The Justice Department and the FBI are independent organizations and do not comply with what the president 'orders.' In point of fact, it would be wrong for the president to order them to do anything.

                              If what you are saying were true, there would be no special counsel. Mueller was appointed by the Justice Department, not the president.
                              Justice is a part of the Executive Branch,the head of the Executive Branch is the president .

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                              • #45
                                The AG serves at the pleasure of the president and can be fired by him at any moment, for whatever reason .

                                Example : in 1952 Truman fired Mcgrath because he did something Truman disliked .

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