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  • Big insurers want the gravy train to continue

    I find it interesting that the big health insurers want Obamacare to continue, and even be propped up.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/compa...cid=spartandhp

    "The ACA cannot be repealed, period, end of sentence," Bertolini told CNBC's "Closing Bell" on Thursday.
    "What we should do is fix it. So either everyone gets their heads together over in the Senate and the House and does the job that the American people needs them to do, and fix what we already have, or they should move on to something else," he said.

    For Aetna to rejoin the Obamacare markets, Bertolini says, the system needs to become more stabilized.
    What he wants is for his company to be fully subsidized such that they don't lose a nickel on Obamacare policies. That's really what he means by "more stabilized."
    Of course, that means masses of new government spending an taxes to pay for those subsidies...

    So, to paraphrase "Our cash cow the ACA can't be repealed, period! You [email protected]$$ed politicians need to dump billions into it to fully prop it up and turn it into the profitable cash machine we designed it to be and got those moron Democrats to pass. You dumb f... Republicans need to get with the program and fix this before our next quarterly report comes out and we lose stock value..."

    I think Mr. Bertolini makes the strongest argument yet for fully repealing Obamacare.

  • #2
    Fake news from the lame stream media.
    Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by R. Evans View Post
      Fake news from the lame stream media.
      You forgot to mention Soros and/or the deep state.

      But in all honesty, let's try to avoid this line of reasoning - especially when you oppose its use by others. Never lower yourself down to their level. It also doesn't lead to solid or healthy debate.

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      • #4
        If you read the entire article, the CEO of Aetna says his company might reenter the Obamacare market if it were "stable." He also ruled out a single-payer replacement. The first would indicate he wants to know for sure that the government will cover any and all losses Aetna suffers with Obamacare, but wants everyone to be forced onto it because that means lots of sales for his company.
        The second he's against because Aetna would lose all those policies to a government insurance program.

        It isn't hard to figure out. This guy wants what's best for Aetna and his paycheck. He could give a rat's patoot about what it costs taxpayers.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
          If you read the entire article, the CEO of Aetna says his company might reenter the Obamacare market if it were "stable." He also ruled out a single-payer replacement. The first would indicate he wants to know for sure that the government will cover any and all losses Aetna suffers with Obamacare, but wants everyone to be forced onto it because that means lots of sales for his company.
          The second he's against because Aetna would lose all those policies to a government insurance program.

          It isn't hard to figure out. This guy wants what's best for Aetna and his paycheck. He could give a rat's patoot about what it costs taxpayers.
          And so he shouldn't. This is a free market economy. Only liberals put the interests of the state ahead of their own pocket books. A true American would steal from the government if they knew they'd get away with it.

          After all, smuggling was quite a money maker for the founders of our nation.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Daemon of Decay View Post
            And so he shouldn't. This is a free market economy. Only liberals put the interests of the state ahead of their own pocket books. A true American would steal from the government if they knew they'd get away with it.

            After all, smuggling was quite a money maker for the founders of our nation.
            I don't disagree. What I'm saying is he makes a strong case for abolishing Obamacare. If he thinks his company will profit bigtime from government largesse and taxpayers then Obamacare is a horrid idea as it enriches private corporations at the expense of the public.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
              I don't disagree. What I'm saying is he makes a strong case for abolishing Obamacare. If he thinks his company will profit bigtime from government largesse and taxpayers then Obamacare is a horrid idea as it enriches private corporations at the expense of the public.
              Of course it does. That is why insurance cost has exploded among with deductibles for the coverage.

              Obamacare is the mandated purchasing of Government Approved Health Insurance under penalty of paying higher taxes for not having any.

              Now, before I hear the argument of having to buy car insurance, the Federal Government is NOT forcing you to own a car or truck. None of the States force you to buy a car either. You can even own a car without having to buy insurance or a license plate. You are not forced to pay a state tax penalty for not having insurance on that car or truck. You are just not allowed to drive that car on a public highway, road, or street without them.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Daemon of Decay View Post
                . A true American would steal from the government if they knew they'd get away with it.
                [ humorous laugh, not sarcastic ]
                isn't that the truth..good one for Friday
                and a lot of companies and individuals do it ''legally''

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                • #9
                  I'm confused. TAG. Up to now, you've posted that many people couldn't get Obamacare because the insurance companies were pulling out of it and now you're saying that they love it and want it to continue. Which is it?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by johns624 View Post
                    I'm confused. TAG. Up to now, you've posted that many people couldn't get Obamacare because the insurance companies were pulling out of it and now you're saying that they love it and want it to continue. Which is it?
                    Aetna is one of the companies that has pulled out of the Obamacare market. The CEO says they would get back in if the government guaranteed that they wouldn't be losing money, in not so many words or so directly. He wants Obamacare to continue, and is saying the government should fully prop it up with tens, probably hundreds of billions to make sure companies like his don't lose money on it.

                    So, insurance companies love Obamacare. After all, they helped craft the legislation. What they don't like is that the government isn't covering their losses. They aren't stupid, unlike the politicians they cajoled into passing this POS legislation. They thought the government would cover their losses in full and force everyone onto an Obamacare plan.
                    It didn't happen because the market and people are smarter than politicians and central planners at these companies. So, the insurers took massive losses and now they're bailing.
                    Aetna's CEO is just expressing his desire the government "fix" the problem so his company can get back to fleecing people of their money without having to worry his company might take a loss somewhere while doing it.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Daemon of Decay View Post
                      And so he shouldn't. This is a free market economy. Only liberals put the interests of the state ahead of their own pocket books. A true American would steal from the government if they knew they'd get away with it.

                      After all, smuggling was quite a money maker for the founders of our nation.
                      Except they aren't stealing from the Guv'mint, they are stealing from their fellow citizens/taxpayers and the future generations that Guv'mint Debt is being passed on to.

                      A "true American" wants as little to do with, or get from the Guv'mint, as possible. A "true American" wants Guv'mint out of their life as much as possible, and wants to give their fellow citizens a "hand-up" rather than a "hand-out". A "true American" wants the Liberty to make their own and isn't looking to loot their fellow citizens.

                      Of course, it's possible you forgot to include this in your post.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                        Aetna is one of the companies that has pulled out of the Obamacare market. The CEO says they would get back in if the government guaranteed that they wouldn't be losing money, in not so many words or so directly. He wants Obamacare to continue, and is saying the government should fully prop it up with tens, probably hundreds of billions to make sure companies like his don't lose money on it.

                        So, insurance companies love Obamacare. After all, they helped craft the legislation. What they don't like is that the government isn't covering their losses. They aren't stupid, unlike the politicians they cajoled into passing this POS legislation. They thought the government would cover their losses in full and force everyone onto an Obamacare plan.
                        It didn't happen because the market and people are smarter than politicians and central planners at these companies. So, the insurers took massive losses and now they're bailing.
                        Aetna's CEO is just expressing his desire the government "fix" the problem so his company can get back to fleecing people of their money without having to worry his company might take a loss somewhere while doing it.
                        Exactly.

                        As many, if not more, citizens have lost medical insurance as have gained under ACA. ACA is just another form of "corporate welfare" foisted upon the backs of current and future citizens/taxpayers.

                        The "Big Insurers" don't want an open market and ready access across state lines to the consumers as such closes out their monoply and profit potential, hence they like ACA as it limits/reduces competition in what should be a nation wide open market ~ real Free Enterprise.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                          I find it interesting that the big health insurers want Obamacare to continue, and even be propped up.

                          http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/compa...cid=spartandhp



                          What he wants is for his company to be fully subsidized such that they don't lose a nickel on Obamacare policies. That's really what he means by "more stabilized."
                          Of course, that means masses of new government spending an taxes to pay for those subsidies...

                          So, to paraphrase "Our cash cow the ACA can't be repealed, period! You [email protected]$$ed politicians need to dump billions into it to fully prop it up and turn it into the profitable cash machine we designed it to be and got those moron Democrats to pass. You dumb f... Republicans need to get with the program and fix this before our next quarterly report comes out and we lose stock value..."

                          I think Mr. Bertolini makes the strongest argument yet for fully repealing Obamacare.
                          I could never get why liberals got so excited about Obamacare. It was a big sellout to the insurance industry, the antithesis of what liberals claim to stand for.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Pirateship1982 View Post
                            I could never get why liberals got so excited about Obamacare. It was a big sellout to the insurance industry, the antithesis of what liberals claim to stand for.
                            Except that "Liberals" are more on-board with Crony Capitalism than most Free-Market/Free-Enterprise Conservatives, so of course the "sell-out" and "money into pockets behind the back" ...

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Pirateship1982 View Post
                              I could never get why liberals got so excited about Obamacare. It was a big sellout to the insurance industry, the antithesis of what liberals claim to stand for.
                              The Left has zero problem with a massive collusion between Big Corporations and government. If they aren't taking them over directly, then they only need have them compliant to their whims of government while making sure they're happily making money in a monopoly. That's what Fascist Germany did. It's the way Socialism works in most of Europe and China today.

                              What the Left hates is somebody deciding things for themselves and doing stuff without the permission of government.

                              So, Obamacare was simply Leftist collusion with Big Business, just as it always does.

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