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  • G David Bock
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    Fired NSC Staffer’s Memo Outlined Vast Coup Attempt Against US Government

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    The memo at the heart of the latest blowup at the National Security Council paints a dark picture of media, academics, the “deep state,” and other enemies allegedly working to subvert U.S. President Donald Trump, according to a copy of the document obtained by Foreign Policy.
    The seven-page document, which eventually landed on the president’s desk, precipitated a crisis that led to the departure of several high-level NSC officials tied to former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn. The author of the memo, Rich Higgins, who was in the strategic planning office at the NSC, was among those recently pushed out.
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    http://disobedientmedia.com/2017/08/...us-government/

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  • G David Bock
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    Here's a classic example of the "Deep State";

    Confirmed: John Brennan Colluded With Foreign Spies to Defeat Trump

    April 19, 2017, 12:04 am
    This is the open scandal that Congress should investigate.

    An article in the Guardian last week provides more confirmation that John Brennan was the American progenitor of political espionage aimed at defeating Donald Trump. One side did collude with foreign powers to tip the election — Hillary’s.

    Seeking to retain his position as CIA director under Hillary, Brennan teamed up with British spies and Estonian spies to cripple Trump’s candidacy. He used their phony intelligence as a pretext for a multi-agency investigation into Trump, which led the FBI to probe a computer server connected to Trump Tower and gave cover to Susan Rice, among other Hillary supporters, to spy on Trump and his people.

    John Brennan’s CIA operated like a branch office of the Hillary campaign, leaking out mentions of this bogus investigation to the press in the hopes of inflicting maximum political damage on Trump. An official in the intelligence community tells TAS that Brennan’s retinue of political radicals didn’t even bother to hide their activism, decorating offices with “Hillary for president cups” and other campaign paraphernalia.

    A supporter of the American Communist Party at the height of the Cold War, Brennan brought into the CIA a raft of subversives and gave them plum positions from which to gather and leak political espionage on Trump. He bastardized standards so that these left-wing activists could burrow in and take career positions. Under the patina of that phony professionalism, they could then present their politicized judgments as “non-partisan.”
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    All of this took place at the very moment Brennan was auditioning for Hillary. He desperately wanted to keep his job and despised Trump for his alleged “Muslim ban,” a matter near and dear to Brennan’s heart. Not only was he an apologist for the Muslim Brotherhood, but Brennan’s Islamophilia dated to his days in college, when he spent a year in Cairo learning Arabic and taking courses in Middle Eastern studies. He later got a graduate degree with an emphasis in Middle Eastern studies. In 1996, his ties to the Islamic world tightened after he became the CIA’s station chief in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. He once recalled that “during a 25-year career in government, I was privileged to serve in positions across the Middle East — as a political officer with the State Department and as a CIA station chief in Saudi Arabia. In Saudi Arabia, I saw how our Saudi partners fulfilled their duty as custodians of the two holy mosques of Mecca and Medina. I marveled at the majesty of the Hajj and the devotion of those who fulfilled their duty as Muslims by making that privilege — that pilgrimage.”

    Out of this Islamophilia came a special dislike of Michael Flynn, who had planned to rip up the Obama-era “reset” with Muslim countries. Furious with Flynn for his apostasy from political correctness, Brennan and other Obama aides couldn’t resist the temptation to take him out after rifling through transcripts of his calls with the Russian ambassador. They caught him in a lie to Mike Pence and made sure the press knew about it.

    Were the media not so completely in the tank for Obama and Hillary, all of this political mischief would make for a compelling 2016 version of All the President’s Men. Instead, the public gets a steady stream of Orwellian propaganda about the sudden propriety of political espionage. ...
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    https://spectator.org/confirmed-john...a96c-104298097

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  • ljadw
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    A good servant of the Deep State is Mika Brzezinsky who said : it is our job to control what people think .

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  • G David Bock
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    Like many terms bandied about in our cultural and political dialogues, "Deep State" has aquired a broad and generic application. On one hand we have the concept of "Higher Levels" of Guv'mint(elected, hired, appointed, etc.) plus Business plus NGOs working in "collusion" to obstruct the "will of the voters/public" to advance their own personal gain(extraction$ of guv'mint fund$) along with "personal" agendas.

    On another level we have the lower levels of "Rank-n-File" "Guv'mint paid 'workers' " seeking to perpetuate their job/career tracks (pay~benefits~pension) and obstruct while effecting their personal ideological objectives.

    Between the two falls another category that just seems to be interested in playing out the "game" of power politics and effecting more convoluted goals. Following may fall within that category;
    This Genius Conspiracy Theory on Who *Really* Runs the White House Will Blow Your Mind

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    There's been no shortage of palace intrigue after a string of high-profile firings inside the West Wing.
    Over the course of the last six months, high-profile staff changes have occurred in dramatic fashion — culminating this week with the resignations of Sean Spicer and Reince Priebus.
    Some commenters chalk it up to Trump’s hardscrabble business background, some say they're strategic moves to distance himself from swampy, establishment Republicans. However prolific political commentator and Twitter savant, ComfortablySmug, has had a year-long ongoing conspiracy theory about who is actually the power center of Trump's universe.
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    Meet Hope Hicks:
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    The mild-mannered former model isn't regularly in the news, but played an early, crucial and consequential role inside of the Trump campaign. Hicks served as Trump's press secretary during the campaign and currently has the role of White House Director of Strategic Communications.
    She stays out of the limelight, but can regularly be seen at Trump's side and in the background of deeply consequential moments inside the White House.
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    http://ijr.com/the-declaration/2017/...ill-blow-mind/


    Hmmm ...

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  • Daemon of Decay
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    Keep your posts about the subject, not your fellow ACGers.

    ACG Staff

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  • ljadw
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    At the Aspen Security Forum, Brennan said that if the White House tries to fire Mueller,government officials should refuse to follow the president's orders .

    This is treason .

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  • Mountain Man
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    How many ways can we spell "paranoia".

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  • Massena
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    This is absolute nonsense; where is your proof?

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  • ljadw
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    Deep State in the US was first attempting to prevent the republican voters from chosing a populist as GOP candidate, than to prevent this populist candidate from winning the election, than to prevent him from taking the oath (threats to the Grand Electors, exhortations to the military for a coup d'état) and finally preventing the new Potus from exercising the office of president of the USA. ALL illegal aims and ALL illegal means .

    This conspiracy proves that Deep State / The Shadow Government is very scared and knows that the popular revolt is a deadly threat .

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  • Surrey
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    Originally posted by ljadw View Post
    I would not qualify Humphrey Appleby as belonging to Deep State , neither Bernard .
    While the Sir Humphrey character genuinely believes that he his acting in the common good he also believes that the common good is what he believes in.


    As I said Deep State is nothing to do with conspiracy theory it is the simple tendency of civil servants and other government functionaries to maintain the Status Quo, ensure that they themselves are adequately rewarded (in their opinion), ensure stability and above all an easy life for themselves.

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  • ljadw
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    Originally posted by Surrey View Post
    A humorous take on the British version of the 'Deep State' was shown in the 1980s to series 'Yes Prime Minister' and 'Yes Minister'.
    I would not qualify Humphrey Appleby as belonging to Deep State , neither Bernard .

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  • ljadw
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    Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
    Then Trump fills his cabinet with billionaires, not just puny millionaires.

    Archie had a name for some people.... ...!
    And the cabinet of Obama, Clinton, Carter, Kennedy, Johnson,.....?

    There is no billionaire writing to Trump to advise him on foreign policy, writing a letter starting with "dear Donald " , but there was one writing a letter to Hillary to advise her on foreign policy ,letter starting with "my dear Hillary " (dear meaning here : valuable ) and, who would this person be ?

    A hint : he has stolen $25 billion and leads the conspiracy against Trump .

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  • Surrey
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    A humorous take on the British version of the 'Deep State' was shown in the 1980s to series 'Yes Prime Minister' and 'Yes Minister'.

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  • Half Pint John
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    Originally posted by ljadw View Post
    An other definition would be : the alliance of big government, big business and big unions to strip the taxpayer of his last dime ,using the media and the secret services to eliminate everyone who is an obstacle (even Potus ).

    Big government meaning the public service and Capitol Hill .
    Then Trump fills his cabinet with billionaires, not just puny millionaires.

    Archie had a name for some people.... ...!

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  • Half Pint John
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    Originally posted by The Exorcist View Post
    Classic Disinformation ; muddy the waters with manufactured conspiracy theories told by whacko actors in order to hide the simple truth.

    Jeez.... doesn't anyone think critically anymore?


    Ron's Alex Jones does.

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