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  • #16
    Originally posted by Chukka View Post
    Anyone who does not agree with you and is in the way.
    Huh?

    If you saw someone being distracted by "gibberish" wouldn't you want to ...

    Oh.
    Well, I guess taking advantage of that would seem like more fun to some people, but that ain't my way.
    "Why is the Rum gone?"

    -Captain Jack

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    • #17
      An other definition would be : the alliance of big government, big business and big unions to strip the taxpayer of his last dime ,using the media and the secret services to eliminate everyone who is an obstacle (even Potus ).

      Big government meaning the public service and Capitol Hill .

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      • #18
        On 17 may of this year Dana Bash (spokeswoman of deep state ) warned publicly Trump on CNN (TV station of deep state ) that deep state would go after him .

        She said : the deep state" will get back at you ",even if you are the president .

        As the president can not expect any help from Congress (a lot of the of Capitol Hill have been elected by the money of deep state ),neither from the Judiciary, his chances to survive are very slim .

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        • #19
          Originally posted by The Exorcist View Post
          Classic Disinformation ; muddy the waters with manufactured conspiracy theories told by whacko actors in order to hide the simple truth.

          Jeez.... doesn't anyone think critically anymore?


          Ron's Alex Jones does.
          "Ask not what your country can do for you"

          Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

          you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by ljadw View Post
            An other definition would be : the alliance of big government, big business and big unions to strip the taxpayer of his last dime ,using the media and the secret services to eliminate everyone who is an obstacle (even Potus ).

            Big government meaning the public service and Capitol Hill .
            Then Trump fills his cabinet with billionaires, not just puny millionaires.

            Archie had a name for some people.... ...!
            "Ask not what your country can do for you"

            Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

            you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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            • #21
              A humorous take on the British version of the 'Deep State' was shown in the 1980s to series 'Yes Prime Minister' and 'Yes Minister'.
              "To be free is better than to be unfree - always."

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
                Then Trump fills his cabinet with billionaires, not just puny millionaires.

                Archie had a name for some people.... ...!
                And the cabinet of Obama, Clinton, Carter, Kennedy, Johnson,.....?

                There is no billionaire writing to Trump to advise him on foreign policy, writing a letter starting with "dear Donald " , but there was one writing a letter to Hillary to advise her on foreign policy ,letter starting with "my dear Hillary " (dear meaning here : valuable ) and, who would this person be ?

                A hint : he has stolen $25 billion and leads the conspiracy against Trump .

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Surrey View Post
                  A humorous take on the British version of the 'Deep State' was shown in the 1980s to series 'Yes Prime Minister' and 'Yes Minister'.
                  I would not qualify Humphrey Appleby as belonging to Deep State , neither Bernard .

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by ljadw View Post
                    I would not qualify Humphrey Appleby as belonging to Deep State , neither Bernard .
                    While the Sir Humphrey character genuinely believes that he his acting in the common good he also believes that the common good is what he believes in.


                    As I said Deep State is nothing to do with conspiracy theory it is the simple tendency of civil servants and other government functionaries to maintain the Status Quo, ensure that they themselves are adequately rewarded (in their opinion), ensure stability and above all an easy life for themselves.
                    "To be free is better than to be unfree - always."

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                    • #25
                      Deep State in the US was first attempting to prevent the republican voters from chosing a populist as GOP candidate, than to prevent this populist candidate from winning the election, than to prevent him from taking the oath (threats to the Grand Electors, exhortations to the military for a coup d'état) and finally preventing the new Potus from exercising the office of president of the USA. ALL illegal aims and ALL illegal means .

                      This conspiracy proves that Deep State / The Shadow Government is very scared and knows that the popular revolt is a deadly threat .

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                      • #26
                        This is absolute nonsense; where is your proof?
                        We are not now that strength which in old days
                        Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                        Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                        To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                        • #27
                          How many ways can we spell "paranoia".
                          Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                          • #28
                            At the Aspen Security Forum, Brennan said that if the White House tries to fire Mueller,government officials should refuse to follow the president's orders .

                            This is treason .

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                            • #29
                              Keep your posts about the subject, not your fellow ACGers.

                              ACG Staff

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                              • #30
                                Like many terms bandied about in our cultural and political dialogues, "Deep State" has aquired a broad and generic application. On one hand we have the concept of "Higher Levels" of Guv'mint(elected, hired, appointed, etc.) plus Business plus NGOs working in "collusion" to obstruct the "will of the voters/public" to advance their own personal gain(extraction$ of guv'mint fund$) along with "personal" agendas.

                                On another level we have the lower levels of "Rank-n-File" "Guv'mint paid 'workers' " seeking to perpetuate their job/career tracks (pay~benefits~pension) and obstruct while effecting their personal ideological objectives.

                                Between the two falls another category that just seems to be interested in playing out the "game" of power politics and effecting more convoluted goals. Following may fall within that category;
                                This Genius Conspiracy Theory on Who *Really* Runs the White House Will Blow Your Mind

                                EXCERPT:
                                ...
                                There's been no shortage of palace intrigue after a string of high-profile firings inside the West Wing.
                                Over the course of the last six months, high-profile staff changes have occurred in dramatic fashion — culminating this week with the resignations of Sean Spicer and Reince Priebus.
                                Some commenters chalk it up to Trump’s hardscrabble business background, some say they're strategic moves to distance himself from swampy, establishment Republicans. However prolific political commentator and Twitter savant, ComfortablySmug, has had a year-long ongoing conspiracy theory about who is actually the power center of Trump's universe.
                                ...
                                Meet Hope Hicks:
                                ...


                                The mild-mannered former model isn't regularly in the news, but played an early, crucial and consequential role inside of the Trump campaign. Hicks served as Trump's press secretary during the campaign and currently has the role of White House Director of Strategic Communications.
                                She stays out of the limelight, but can regularly be seen at Trump's side and in the background of deeply consequential moments inside the White House.
                                ...
                                http://ijr.com/the-declaration/2017/...ill-blow-mind/


                                Hmmm ...

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