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  • Half Pint John
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    Originally posted by Persephone View Post
    There are many companies in Silicon Valley that already use facial recognition for entry into secured buildings. In order to do it, they need a database. It doesn't surprise me that it's being used for the airline industry or that they will keep a database.
    It's not the airline industry, it's the government doing it and that is the rub. Step for step we are turning into a police state.

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  • Persephone
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    TBH...the TSA's grubby hands on me bugs me more.

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  • Persephone
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    There are many companies in Silicon Valley that already use facial recognition for entry into secured buildings. In order to do it, they need a database. It doesn't surprise me that it's being used for the airline industry or that they will keep a database.

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  • johns624
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    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

    Also works fine during legislative tax sessions because you know you're going to get screwed...

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    You know, a little of this on a long selfie stick (or the like) with a large Q-Tip at the end



    Does wonders for camera lenses...

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  • Mountain Man
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    They already have the database. The various agencies have been scanning us for years. New York has the highest number of surveillance cams anywhere - according to them - and if you think they haven't saved any of the faces they have recorded for future reference I'm will to sell you some ocean front property right here in the Rocky Mountains.

    It's too late to undue the Big Brother State.


    As for "jamming" or "camouflaging" one's face, I'll bet the person who does never gets entry to anything at all...ever, since this is a self-identifying tactic. Better off buying a really good latex facial mask.

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  • craven
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    Originally posted by Daemon of Decay View Post
    That is because neither party has an interest in reducing it, and the people are content with it because of "safety", which is one of those hanging swords that everyone buys into whenever they feel it over them. Look at our current approach to "terrorism" and how terrified many people feel, above and beyond the real threat - thus, excessive actions are justified in the interest of making people feel safer.

    And because it can be argued that these issues are a public safety matter, rejecting them is seen as enabling or abetting criminals - which isn't untrue. But that is part of the trade off: greater privacy protection helps the law abiding and the criminal alike.
    it the hot potato syndrome no one wants to be the one left holding the potato incase of something bad occurring.

    Just look at circular firing squad that accompanied 9-11 Clintons fault no Bushes blah blah blah

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  • Half Pint John
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    Originally posted by SRV Ron View Post
    John, in spite of your beloved Democrats bitterly complaining when the Republicans expanded the program after 9-11, they fully embraced and expanded it under Obama.

    Short of a civil war that destroys the nation into anarchy, the surveillance is never going away no matter which party is in control.
    Sorry Ron, never voted Dem except in some local election a long, long time ago.

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  • Daemon of Decay
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    Originally posted by SRV Ron View Post
    John, in spite of your beloved Democrats bitterly complaining when the Republicans expanded the program after 9-11, they fully embraced and expanded it under Obama.

    Short of a civil war that destroys the nation into anarchy, the surveillance is never going away no matter which party is in control.
    That is because neither party has an interest in reducing it, and the people are content with it because of "safety", which is one of those hanging swords that everyone buys into whenever they feel it over them. Look at our current approach to "terrorism" and how terrified many people feel, above and beyond the real threat - thus, excessive actions are justified in the interest of making people feel safer.

    And because it can be argued that these issues are a public safety matter, rejecting them is seen as enabling or abetting criminals - which isn't untrue. But that is part of the trade off: greater privacy protection helps the law abiding and the criminal alike.

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  • SRV Ron
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    John, in spite of your beloved Democrats bitterly complaining when the Republicans expanded the program after 9-11, they fully embraced and expanded it under Obama.

    Short of a civil war that destroys the nation into anarchy, the surveillance is never going away no matter which party is in control.

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  • Half Pint John
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    Department of Homeland Security

    Patriot Act

    now this

    As Ron said

    Yeah Right/Non Progressive police state GOP

    They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin

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  • craven
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    oh isn't Obama using this to put people in FEMA camps

    oh wait he not prez anymore nvm

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  • TactiKill J.
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    Make America Great Again? Nope, more business as usual. The invasion of our privacy will never stop until a real anti-establishment candidate is elected.

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    So, you go with jamming...



    or camouflage

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  • SRV Ron
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    "It says it won’t keep the face scans of U.S. citizens."

    Yeah Right!

    Anyone know why every electronic activity of every US citizen, phone call conversation and text messages, electronic transaction such as credit card and debit card and membership club purchases, banking activity such as deposits and withdrawal, on line activity such as web surfing and postings and e-mail messages, GPS tracking of your movement via your newer car and cell phone, is being stored in those huge server databases in the NSA Cloud?

    Orwell's "1984" arrived long ago. The Feds will keep gaining ever tighter control of your money as we are pushed into that cashless society. They are already a constant threat to those individual, such as the Amish, or any other small business that deals in large amounts of cash on a regular basis. Ask anyone that works at a bank if you don't believe me.

    It is too late to stop it. Your privacy rights are now gone. Period!

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