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  • US destroyer hits cargo ship

    must've been a hard crash

    http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ry?id=48092522

    DM with pics..also says 7 missing??
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...nt-vessel.html

    CNN reports not all accounted for

    one time our LST came alongside a ship in South America...our ship was rocking hard, side to side a lot, and part of it hit the other ship and holed it topside
    ...with 2 ships moving forward,rocking side to side and up and down on the sea, it takes experience keep from colliding
    Last edited by Moulin; 16 Jun 17, 19:38.

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    Looks to me more like the cargo ship hit the destroyer.

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    • #3
      Radar?

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      • #4
        Either way (DD hits Merchie or Merchie hits DD), unless the Navy has changed a LOT...... I know of one promising Commander who's career has come to a screeching halt.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by 101combatvet View Post
          Radar?
          thanks all replies
          yes..
          appears to have taken place in open water...??
          this will be interesting to see what happened
          you would think it couldn't happen--but after the USS Greenville smash, I wouldn't count anything out

          damage to DD is starboard side--correct?
          if ships are closing, aren't they supposed to turn to starboard?
          merchant ship damage to bow
          so the merchant ship ran into DD..?
          Last edited by Moulin; 16 Jun 17, 22:18.

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          • #6
            This appears to be another USS Kinkaid DD-965 incident except this one was in open waters not like the Strait of Malacca.
            Too Much To Do Too Little Time

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Grognard Gunny View Post
              Either way (DD hits Merchie or Merchie hits DD), unless the Navy has changed a LOT...... I know of one promising Commander who's career has come to a screeching halt.

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              His along with the navigator, OOD, and most or all of the bridge watch too.

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              • #8
                It is holed - or damaged - under waterline as well.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Grognard Gunny View Post
                  Either way (DD hits Merchie or Merchie hits DD), unless the Navy has changed a LOT...... I know of one promising Commander who's career has come to a screeching halt.

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                  He was also injured in the collision.

                  Two crew members, including the captain, have been evacuated from a Navy destroyer. The Navy said in a statement that Cmdr. Bryce Benson, the ship's commanding officer, was evacuated to the U.S. Naval Hospital in Yokosuka, home base of the 7th Fleet. It says he was in stable condition.
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                  • #10
                    So what?? He is the commander and responseable for the ship.
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                    Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                    you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                    • #11
                      Yes, he was. And seven sailors are missing. He's responsible for that also.

                      And the larger ship has the right of way as the smaller vessel has the advantage in maneuverability.

                      When I was at Guantanamo in the late 80s the Coral Sea his a Panamanian merchant ship and almost sank her. She came into Guantanamo to dock and was very low in the water. The Coral Sea had a large chunk out of the bow, but was otherwise OK.

                      A friend of mine was on the MarDet on the ship and told me later that the OOD passed out on the bridge when the collision occurred. He knew he was done.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
                        So what?? He is the commander and responseable for the ship.
                        What does that have to do with his injuries?

                        Arguing for the sake of arguing? Go back to sleep, John.

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                        • #13
                          Did the Officer on the Deck on the destroyer think that he, she, could cross in front of the cargo ship before they were too close? Did someone in navigation believe that the cargo ship was going slower then it really was?

                          Given how fragile destroyers are constructed, they weren't called tin cans for nothing in WW2, It's surprising that the destroyer wasn't cut in half or suffer more damage by the impact.

                          Heads are sure to roll, with the careers of the command staff in ruins, in the upcoming investigation.
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                            • #15
                              How on earth could this happen when both ships must have had sophisticated radar, etc. and, in the case of the navy at least, highly trained officers?

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