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  • CIA has been infiltrated, and that has cost lives.

    CHINA IMPRISONED OR KILLED MULTIPLE CIA SOURCES TO THE U.S. BETWEEN 2010 AND 2012

    Refresh my memory please, who was President from 2010 to 2012? And who was Sec. of State during that time?
    Why is this the first we have heard about this?

    China killed or imprisoned 18 to 20 CIA sources from 2010 to 2012, hobbling U.S. spying operations in a massive intelligence breach whose origin has not been identified, the New York Times reported on Saturday.

    Investigators remain divided over whether there was a spy within the Central Intelligence Agency who betrayed the sources or whether the Chinese hacked the CIA's covert communications system, the newspaper reported, citing current and former U.S. officials.

    The Chinese killed at least a dozen people providing information to the CIA from 2010 through 2012, dismantling a network that was years in the making, the newspaper reported.
    One was shot and killed in front of a government building in China, three officials told the Times, saying that was designed as a message to others about working with Washington.

    The breach was considered particularly damaging, with the number of assets lost rivaling those in the Soviet Union and Russia who perished after information passed to Moscow by spies Aldrich Ames and Robert Hanssen, the report said. Ames was active as a spy in the 1980s and Hanssen from 1979 to 2001.

    The CIA declined to comment when asked about the Times report on Saturday.

    The Chinese activities began to emerge in 2010, when the American spy agency had been getting high quality information about the Chinese government from sources deep inside the bureaucracy, including Chinese upset by the Beijing government's corruption, four former officials told the Times.

    The information began to dry up by the end of the year and the sources began disappearing in early 2011, the report said.

    As more sources were killed the FBI and the CIA began a joint investigation of the breach, examining all operations run in Beijing and every employee of the U.S. Embassy there.

    The investigation ultimately centered on a former CIA operative who worked in a division overseeing China, the newspaper said, but there was not enough evidence to arrest him.

    Some investigators believed the Chinese had hacked the CIA's covert communications system.

    Still others thought the breach was a result of careless spy work including traveling the same routes to the same meeting points or meeting sources at restaurants where Chinese had planted listening devices, the newspaper said.
    http://www.newsweek.com/china-cia-ci...-spying-612971
    Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
    Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

  • #2
    There is already a thread on this.
    Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedy. -- Ernest Benn

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    • #3
      Besides, part of the CIA's mandatory duties is to detect and prevent such infiltration.

      Time to disband the CIA, which has become a long-standing oxymoron.

      "Central Intelligence Agency" my ...
      Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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      • #4
        I haven't heard of this or read of it, thanks Urban

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Mystikeye View Post
          I haven't heard of this or read of it, thanks Urban
          Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
          Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Tsar View Post
            There is already a thread on this.
            I didn't see it, can we merge them?
            Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
            Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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            • #7
              Bobo was the best politician money can buy. Slick Wille raised funds selling missile technology, Bobo sold out intelligence assets. And yet the DNC get outraged because he fired a political appointee whom they wanted fired just moths ago.
              Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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              • #8
                Unbelievable to me that with everything going on in the international scene this story gets no traction.
                Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
                Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                  Time to disband the CIA...
                  That's intelligent...

                  What's your next gambit?
                  We are not now that strength which in old days
                  Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                  Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                  To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Massena View Post
                    That's intelligent...

                    What's your next gambit?
                    We can't trust them. It's time to clean house
                    Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
                    Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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                    • #11
                      Hardly the first time the CIA or the FBI has been penetrated, nor the first time that that has led to the death of US agents.

                      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitri_Polyakov
                      "To be free is better than to be unfree - always."

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
                        We can't trust them. It's time to clean house
                        You are not only wrong, you're demonstrating signes of paragoia. You've caught Ron's illness...
                        We are not now that strength which in old days
                        Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                        Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                        To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
                          And yet the DNC get outraged because he fired a political appointee whom they wanted fired just moths ago.
                          The putz can't win no matter what he does, even if he does something Today that they wanted done Yesterday, they would still be outraged, just because he did it
                          Trying hard to be the Man, that my Dog believes I am!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Massena View Post
                            You are not only wrong, you're demonstrating signes of paragoia. You've caught Ron's illness...
                            Paragoia?

                            I think you meant paranoia, which is funny coming from you. How many post about Russian ties to Trump have you made since atheist election ?
                            This is an unhealthy obsession.
                            Have you ever looked at Clappers biography?
                            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Clapper
                            I wouldn't trust him farther then I could throw him.
                            Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
                            Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
                              We can't trust them. It's time to clean house
                              And then what?
                              We are not now that strength which in old days
                              Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                              Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                              To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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