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  • Get raped, get billed $400 for rape kit.

    Justice American style! What a country....

    COEUR D’ALENE, Idaho – A North Idaho woman said she had to pay $400 for a rape kit she had done back in 2014.

    She said police and a victim’s advocate worker told her she would not have to pay for the rape kit. But when it came time to pay, she said she was left with several questions and no answers. She even said putting off that payment ended up affecting her credit score.

    It is KREM 2’s policy not to identify the victims of sexual assault. Kara Burnham has given us her permission to use her name and share her photos. She said she is speaking out so this does not happen to anyone else.

    Burnham is trying to start a new chapter in her life and recently moved to Eugene, Oregon. There is something from her time in Coeur d’Alene back in 2014 that she is trying to put behind her. The night she was raped.

    "There have been days where it makes me break down crying,” she said.

    Despite knowing who he is, Burnham said that to this day, her rapist has yet to be charged with a crime. She said she has tried to move on from that sad reality. What she still can't believe she summarized in a Facebook post: "I just paid 400 dollars to get raped."

    "I've yelled at the police about that. It made me mad, that's for sure," she explained.

    The $400 rape kit that was performed on her as part of the investigation. A rape kit that came back positive, she said. Police and a victim advocate told her she would not have to pay for it but still a bill arrived in the mail.

    "Then I couldn't ever get a hold of anyone about it. Basically, I couldn't pay," she said.

    Burnham said due to the emotional distress of the situation, she put off filing a claim with the Idaho Crime Victims compensation program for about half a year. When she asked about having the kit covered, Burnham got the runaround.

    "Mostly what had happened was I contacted a person, who would tell me to contact someone else, who would tell me to contact a third person, who would send me back to the first person, who would send me to a new person," Burnham said.

    KREM 2 reached out to the state Crime Victim’s Compensation Program. An official there said that this does not sound right, and that it is hard to envision a rape victim paying for a rape kit. That official said the program is typically required to cover the cost of rape kits. The official was very open to talking with Burnham about the problem.

    At this point, it is not exactly clear what lead to Burnham having to pay herself. She said no one gave her answers when she inquired at the time. The bill would end up looming over her until just recently when she gave in and paid up. The damage was done, Burnham said, and her credit score had taken a hit.

    "I definitely never anticipated that getting raped would affect my credit score. I probably wouldn't have gone forward with the rape kit if I had known what was going to happen,” she said.

    KREM 2 reached out to the Coeur d’Alene police about this story. We are still waiting to hear back from a department spokesperson.
    http://www.ktvb.com/news/n-idaho-rap...aped/441121929
    Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
    Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

  • #2
    Are you seriously suggesting this reflects negatively on an entire nation.

    There are more pressing issues than minorities and women. I would go so far as to say that the constant focus on the issues that minorities and women face is a deliberate distraction from foundational societal issues. If those issues pressed by the media are your focus I would recommend you research how cults exercise mind control.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
      Are you seriously suggesting this reflects negatively on an entire nation.

      There are more pressing issues than minorities and women. I would go so far as to say that the constant focus on the issues that minorities and women face is a deliberate distraction from foundational societal issues. If those issues pressed by the media are your focus I would recommend you research how cults exercise mind control.
      I don't know how common this is, but the last time I checked Idaho was still in the US.
      If a man was charged $400.00 for reporting a crime and producing evidence maybe you would feel differently.
      Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
      Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
        I don't know how common this is, but the last time I checked Idaho was still in the US.
        If a man was charged $400.00 for reporting a crime and producing evidence maybe you would feel differently.
        The problem is your "feelings" are being used against you to distract you from the real issues.

        If woman were committing suicide at the same rate as men then your Ad hominem would be less distasteful. Both sexes have their own issues that deserve equal feelings. Unfortunately the human ape's instincts are not compatible with balanced views on most issues.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
          The problem is your "feelings" are being used against you to distract you from the real issues.

          If woman were committing suicide at the same rate as men then your Ad hominem would be less distasteful. Both sexes have their own issues that deserve equal feelings. Unfortunately the human ape's instincts are not compatible with balanced views on most issues.
          You are going way off the tracks now...my feelings have nothing to do with the story, there are over a thousand rape kits taken as evidence sitting in the Idaho crime lab untested because of the lack of funds.
          My feeling is if your wife was one of those victims you would be melting down right about now.
          Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
          Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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          • #6
            Dang UH I think you are being called a liberal!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by BigDog View Post
              Dang UH I think you are being called a liberal!
              Look at the source!



              Not that there's anything wrong with that....
              Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
              Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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              • #8
                The problem is that the hospital is billing her for the ER visit.

                Normally all she would have to do is bring the case number to the billing office of the hospital and the matter would be closed.

                Why that isn't happening, I do not know. Perhaps the hospital isn't familiar with the SANE process, or on the same visit as the exam she was treated for injuries, or maybe she is just making the whole thing up.
                Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                • #9
                  The article seems like enrage bait. But as I read it I got the feeling there something more to the story.

                  If "rape kit" refers to evidence collection, then of course billing this woman is evil unless somehow it clearly shows she is lying.

                  If it is for treatment, then of course it is wrong to force victims of crime to go out of pocket for their treatment, but then again that is all part of the beauty of the US healthcare system.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
                    The problem is that the hospital is billing her for the ER visit.

                    Normally all she would have to do is bring the case number to the billing office of the hospital and the matter would be closed.

                    Why that isn't happening, I do not know. Perhaps the hospital isn't familiar with the SANE process, or on the same visit as the exam she was treated for injuries, or maybe she is just making the whole thing up.
                    That makes sense.
                    Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
                    Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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                    • #11
                      I don't think this is as unusual as some might think. For example, at least around here, if you are stopped for suspected DUI/DWI, and ask for a blood test instead of the breathalyzer, you're charged for the emergency room visit and the blood test...even if you're ultimately found to be under the legal limit.

                      David Eckert was forced to undergo multiple enemas, and a colonoscopy, because police officers thought he had drugs stashed in his rectum. Their reasons for thinking that was because one officer thought he saw him clinch his butt cheeks. After two x-rays showed nothing, he then was given three enemas. When that produced nothing, he then was forced to undergo the colonoscopy. Where, once again, nothing was found. He was sent a $6,000 bill by the hospital. Now ultimately he one a $1.6 million dollar settlement over this.


                      http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/16/justic...ch-settlement/

                      http://watchdog.org/149224/cavity-search-case/

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by phil74501 View Post
                        I don't think this is as unusual as some might think. For example, at least around here, if you are stopped for suspected DUI/DWI, and ask for a blood test instead of the breathalyzer, you're charged for the emergency room visit and the blood test...even if you're ultimately found to be under the legal limit.

                        David Eckert was forced to undergo multiple enemas, and a colonoscopy, because police officers thought he had drugs stashed in his rectum. Their reasons for thinking that was because one officer thought he saw him clinch his butt cheeks. After two x-rays showed nothing, he then was given three enemas. When that produced nothing, he then was forced to undergo the colonoscopy. Where, once again, nothing was found. He was sent a $6,000 bill by the hospital. Now ultimately he one a $1.6 million dollar settlement over this.


                        http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/16/justic...ch-settlement/

                        http://watchdog.org/149224/cavity-search-case/
                        That gives an entirely new meaning to "turn the other cheek"
                        I'd be suing somebody for something...
                        Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
                        Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
                          Are you seriously suggesting this reflects negatively on an entire nation.

                          There are more pressing issues than minorities and women. I would go so far as to say that the constant focus on the issues that minorities and women face is a deliberate distraction from foundational societal issues. If those issues pressed by the media are your focus I would recommend you research how cults exercise mind control.
                          Your comment reveals a shocking lack of empathy, sympathy and concern for others that is frankly disturbing.

                          Frankly, you need to rethink your position on this. Rape is a hideous crime,and cannot be relegated to minor status so that you can focus of matters that you prefer.
                          Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                          • #14
                            Rape is one of several serious crimes that society strives to prevent. Rape however like few other crimes invokes primordial instinctual responses. The tribal instinct to protect the biologically limited supply of eggs can be manifested in disturbing and irrational ways. The number of false rape claims against black Americans by groups such as the Ku Klux Klan being one example. When dealing with such emotion evoking issues care must be taken to ensure that justice is indeed blind.

                            There is significant evidence to suggest that Marxists influenced groups such as third wave feminism are indeed engaged in promoting a false narrative to manipulate emotions and further their political ambitions. This presents a clear and present threat to traditional civil liberties such as burden of proof.

                            It is necessary that we engage both emotionally and intellectual in all aspects of our lives but we must be wary of manipulation by those not interested in the preservation of our civilization. Including in those uninterested in the preservation of our civilization are those that push identity politics.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
                              Rape is one of several serious crimes that society strives to prevent. Rape however like few other crimes invokes primordial instinctual responses. The tribal instinct to protect the biologically limited supply of eggs can be manifested in disturbing and irrational ways. The number of false rape claims against black Americans by groups such as the Ku Klux Klan being one example. When dealing with such emotion evoking issues care must be taken to ensure that justice is indeed blind.

                              There is significant evidence to suggest that Marxists influenced groups such as third wave feminism are indeed engaged in promoting a false narrative to manipulate emotions and further their political ambitions. This presents a clear and present threat to traditional civil liberties such as burden of proof.

                              It is necessary that we engage both emotionally and intellectual in all aspects of our lives but we must be wary of manipulation by those not interested in the preservation of our civilization. Including in those uninterested in the preservation of our civilization are those that push identity politics.
                              There is some serious push back from men(and I've seen a growing trend among women getting really tired of that **** too), including creating male advocacy groups, because of the aforementioned. This is clearly a product of the last few decades. Some "feminists" simply pushed too far; such as shaming people who dare say that a woman is capable of lying about being raped.

                              That is not to say that all feminists advocate such things. Just that there always seems to be that 10% or 1% or something of any group of people who just go too far and seemingly only want to be right and yell about things, and because they yell the loudest they tend to take control of the narrative.

                              Society tends to correct itself with time, and I think we are in need of some really serious discussion on many subjects. Luckily we also seem to be in a point where the "silent majority" has gotten really ****ing tired of the worst of
                              exaggerations and overkills.

                              Political correctness for example is pretty much dead or dying.
                              Wisdom is personal

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