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  • Sean Spicer, Chemical Weapons, and the Holocaust

    Press Secretary Sean Spicer needs a good history lesson.

    His comments regarding the use of chemical weapons and comparing their use (or alleged non-use) by Assad and Hitler is a gross error historically.

    He is proving himself to be less-than well-informed both historically and practically.

    He is also proving irrevocably that common sense is not a common virtue.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/12/opinio...iat/index.html
    We are not now that strength which in old days
    Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
    Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
    To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

  • #2
    I get the impression the words came into his head and before he could stop himself they came out of his mouth.

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    • #3
      What he obviously meant was the Chemical Weapons were not used on the battlefield. He forgot about Zyklon B.
      "I dogmatise and am contradicted, and in this conflict of opinions and sentiments I find delight".
      Samuel Johnson.

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      • #4
        Anyone notice the time delay between asking the question - with clarification - and the media outrage that followed?

        They knew what he meant. Hitler did not use chemical warfare on the battlefield. That is historically accurate. The fact that he used the gas chambers for his final solution does not apply to what happened in Syria.

        And, another fact. The final solution was used on a variety of so called undesirable individuals which included gays, gypsies, the handicapped, the retarded, the insane, and Blacks, as well as an entire ethnic group, the six million Jews.

        This is just more Lame stream "Trump Derangement Syndrome" at work.
        “Breaking News,”

        “Something irrelevant in your life just happened and now we are going to blow it all out of proportion for days to keep you distracted from what's really going on.”

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        • #5
          He is fast proving to be the worst White house press spokesman ever.
          War is less costly than servitude

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          • #6
            Originally posted by copenhagen View Post
            ...I get the impression the words came into his head and before he could stop himself they came out of his mouth...
            He does that quite often.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by BELGRAVE View Post
              What he obviously meant was the Chemical Weapons were not used on the battlefield. He forgot about Zyklon B.
              The key word for the death camps is 'gas chambers.' You would have thought that he would have picked up on that, especially as the US Holocaust Museum is right down the street.

              The gas chambers, Zyklon B, and the death camps are explained quite well there.
              We are not now that strength which in old days
              Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
              Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
              To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Kendrick View Post
                He is fast proving to be the worst White house press spokesman ever.
                I believe he's already passed that hurdle...
                We are not now that strength which in old days
                Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                • #9
                  Spicer actually said in his clarification: “I think when you come to sarin gas, he was not using the gas on his own people the same way that Assad is doing.”

                  Well, lets put this to bed, surprisingly Spicer managed to push his incompetence to new levels. Hitler did use “gas on his own people the same way that Assad is doing”. Assad is using chemical weapons to kill innocent civilians just like Hitler did; the only difference was the delivery method: herding people into enclosed spaces to be gassed as opposed to dropping gas bombs on them from the air.

                  Personally I hope that Spicer hangs about in the White House for a long time because I don't think I've ever seen such amusing White House briefings! It's comedy gold.

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                  • #10
                    Spicer is indicative of the 'inner circle' of the White House and a good portion of the presidential appointees.

                    The competence level is low, the ideological level is high, and the 'group' is akin to the Keystone Kops, who were at least comical. This is just sad and repulsive at the same time.

                    The tone is set from the top.
                    We are not now that strength which in old days
                    Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                    Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                    To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Massena View Post
                      Spicer is indicative of the 'inner circle' of the White House and a good portion of the presidential appointees.

                      The competence level is low, the ideological level is high, and the 'group' is akin to the Keystone Kops, who were at least comical. This is just sad and repulsive at the same time.

                      The tone is set from the top.
                      Spicer's rebranding of the German execution camps as being Holocaust centres was particularly spectacular.

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                      • #12
                        It was clear that he was referring to the use of chemical weapons on the battlefield. Should be a non story. (The Nazis may have actually used them briefly against the Russians in the Ukraine somewhere)
                        "To be free is better than to be unfree - always."

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by JFKvsNixon View Post
                          Assad is using chemical weapons to kill innocent civilians just like Hitler did;
                          Wrong .

                          Hitler did order the Holocaust ,which was the extermination of as many Jews as possible .

                          Assad did not order the extermination of as many ...whatever you may call them... as possible .

                          Thus there is no comparison possible and Spicer was right, but for the opposite reasons .

                          The use of Sarin against a military target is not the same as the use of Zyklon B which was not used against a military target .

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Surrey View Post
                            It was clear that he was referring to the use of chemical weapons on the battlefield. Should be a non story. (The Nazis may have actually used them briefly against the Russians in the Ukraine somewhere)
                            It's not clear that Spicer was talking use of weapons on the battlefield, because after all he referred to Assad's use of chemical weapons against his own people.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ljadw View Post
                              Wrong .

                              Hitler did order the Holocaust ,which was the extermination of as many Jews as possible .

                              Assad did not order the extermination of as many ...whatever you may call them... as possible .

                              Thus there is no comparison possible and Spicer was right, but for the opposite reasons .

                              The use of Sarin against a military target is not the same as the use of Zyklon B which was not used against a military target .
                              Syria did not use it against a military target, they used it against civilians.... so yes they are similar.
                              “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
                              “To talk of many things:
                              Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
                              Of cabbages—and kings—
                              And why the sea is boiling hot—
                              And whether pigs have wings.”
                              ― Lewis Carroll

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