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  • #16
    Originally posted by Daemon of Decay View Post
    Quite right. Good thing nobody has called anyone a bigot here, Trump or otherwise.
    Yeah...riight...
    Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
      Yeah...riight...
      Seeing your sarcasm, I'd ask you to help point it out. I may have missed it when someone posted that someone else was a bigot, Trump or otherwise.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Daemon of Decay View Post
        So you fully admit you don't even read what is said, don't care to understand what they're talking about, but you still know it is factually wrong.

        That is American politics in a nutshell.
        I read it. The article is irrelevant. Like Sal said, none of this is news. No conspiracy. No supervillainry. Like AJ said, a consulting firm consulted. BFD.

        Yesterday Tucker Carlson was interviewing some looney tune suggesting that Trump's Syria strike was done precisely to try and conceal that he is a Russian lapdog while Rachael Madcow was having wag the dog fantasies and they were even theorizing Russia told Trump to hit Assad so they could hide their secret bromance.

        Consider the intellect of the faction you are citing. These people are [email protected]$!# banana sandwich crazy. You're defending the arguments of people who say "striking Syria is exactly the sort of thing a Russian Manchurian candidate would do!" If Trump even went to war, they would insist it is all a secret plan.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Pirateship1982 View Post
          I read it. The article is irrelevant. Like Sal said, none of this is news. No conspiracy. No supervillainry. Like AJ said, a consulting firm consulted. BFD.

          Yesterday Tucker Carlson was interviewing some looney tune suggesting that Trump's Syria strike was done precisely to try and conceal that he is a Russian lapdog while Rachael Madcow was having wag the dog fantasies and they were even theorizing Russia told Trump to hit Assad so they could hide their secret bromance.

          Consider the intellect of the faction you are citing. These people are [email protected]$!# banana sandwich crazy.
          Oh I agree. That was what made all of this so amusing on my end: it's an article discussing something ancillary, pointing out that one figure may be related to a source he denied (sketchy) but which still falls under the banner of "that was his job at the time, dummy".

          It ain't even on the same level as when people were questioning Clinton's connection to foreign governments through the Clinton Foundation. Outside of those who actually believe Trump to be the Manchurian Candidate (and thus would probably scream if Trump even has a glass of vodka), there's nothing here to focus on about Trump... unless one starts crafting their own conspiracies about triple-agents operating a decade before the election!

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          • #20
            Spokesman: Paul Manafort to register as foreign agent

            Fox News video interview with the AP reporter. Can't imbed the video directly.

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            • #21
              Manafort might register as a foreign agent

              Paul Manafort, the former chairman of Donald Trump's presidential campaign, might register as a foreign agent with the Department of Justice, a spokesman for Manafort said Wednesday.

              The spokesman said the onetime lobbyist and consultant is "taking appropriate steps in response to the guidance" he was given by the Justice Department.

              "Since before the 2016 election, Mr. Manafort has been in discussions with federal authorities about the advisability of registering under FARA [the Foreign Agents Registration Act] for some of his past political work," spokesman Jason Maloni said in a statement.

              "Mr. Manafort received formal guidance recently from the authorities and he is taking appropriate steps in response to the guidance. The work in question was widely known, concluded before Mr. Manafort began working with the Trump Campaign and was not conducted on behalf of the Russian government."
              http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbyi...-foreign-agent

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              • #22
                Paul Manafort: New report on Ukraine ties 'totally misleading and incorrect'

                President Trump's former campaign chairman Paul Manafort pushed back Wednesday on an Associated Press report about his business dealings in Ukraine, calling it "totally misleading and incorrect."

                The report focuses on a financial ledger released by Ukrainian anti-corruption authorities last August. They claimed it showed improper secret payments to Manafort from Ukrainian political and business interests including the Russia-leaning Party of Regions political group, which Manafortís firm advised from 2004 to 2010.

                U.S. investigators have struggled to find direct evidence of wrongdoing from the financial ledger, partly because much of it is hand-written in cyrillic and Ukrainian investigators havenít been able to cross-reference the entries with bank records.

                But the AP report says that newly obtained financial records confirm that at least $1.2 million in payments between 2007 and 2009 listed in the ledger next to Manafortís name were actually received by his consulting firm in the United States.

                Later in the day the AP reported Manafort was registering as a foreign agent.

                "Since before the 2016 election, Mr. Manafort has been in discussions with federal authorities about the advisability of registering under FARA for some of his past political work," Manafort's Spokesman Jason Maloni said in a statement. "Mr. Manafort received formal guidance recently from the authorities and he is taking appropriate steps in response to the guidance. The work in question was widely known, concluded before Mr. Manafort began working with the Trump Campaign and was not conducted on behalf of the Russian government."
                http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...incorrect.html

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Daemon of Decay View Post
                  And that's two red marks: judging content from a title alone, and an ad hominem fallacy.

                  To turn this into a trifecta, I imagine neither statement will be backed up by anything concrete in response either. Which is, again, American politics in a nutshell.
                  Still no figs.
                  Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
                    Still no figs.
                    Or any concrete.

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