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  • US hints at military action to retaliate against Assad

    PALM BEACH, Fla. (AP) The Trump administration hinted at military action against Syria Thursday as the president and top officials considered how to retaliate against President Bashar Assad for this week's chemical weapons attack that killed more than 80 people. Military leaders discussed options with the White House, likely including a missile strike.

    President Donald Trump suggested that Assad may have to leave power, and his comments were strongly underscored by Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, who told reporters "there's no role for him to govern the Syrian people."

    The administration has been put to the test this week amid an international outcry over the newly horrifying violence in Syria. Over the past seven years, hundreds of thousands of people have been killed in the nation's civil war, triggering the worst refugee crisis since World War II.

    Trump's tone has grown more grave with the passing days. On Wednesday, he said this week's attack crossed "a lot of lines" not just the "red line" of chemical weapons use that President Barack Obama once set as an ultimatum for the Assad government.
    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/de1b6...hemical-attack

    The question is if this "red line" will amount to more than Obama's "red line" - and what that could mean for America and its regional interests.

  • #2
    Sigh, I wish he'd stop watching faux news. I personally think this is another case like William R Hearst bringing the Spanish American War.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propag...93American_War
    Credo quia absurdum.


    Quantum mechanics describes nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And yet it fully agrees with experiment. So I hope you can accept nature as She is - absurd! - Richard Feynman

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Daemon of Decay View Post
      http://bigstory.ap.org/article/de1b6...hemical-attack

      The question is if this "red line" will amount to more than Obama's "red line" - and what that could mean for America and its regional interests.
      Trump twitter archives producing yet more gold.

      https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...77511473983488

      In regard to the actual news itself, the pivot on Assad will necessarily rely on the Russians also being willing to agree to him standing down. A careless strike on assets full of Russian personnel without advance warning would be an international relations disaster.
      Last edited by ThoseDeafMutes; 06 Apr 17, 19:44.

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      • #4
        And here we are:

        http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...69#post3348969

        Attack initiated.

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        • #5
          The more things change, the more they stay the same. Really doesn't matter who's in the white house anymore.
          "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
          - Benjamin Franklin

          The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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          • #6
            Actually, it does matter...

            Some will appease... Some will buy off...

            Some will talk... Some will act!

            The former does not solve much, if anything...

            The latter, in proper measure, most often does.

            I don't give a rats ass if a real enemy or their allies like it or not.


            On the Plains of Hesitation lie the blackened bones of countless millions who, at the dawn of victory, sat down to rest-and resting... died. Adlai E. Stevenson

            ACG History Today

            BoRG

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            • #7
              I will say this about his retaliatory strike. It was quick.

              In his statement following the strike (he doesn't do teleprompter all that well... it was obvious he was reading off one) I noticed three words he used several times that Obama simply wouldn't use so freely:

              God, prayer(s), and soul(s) (in the sense of people having one).

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              • #8
                Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post

                God, prayer(s), and soul(s) (in the sense of people having one).
                Yeah I'm sure God loves being brought into needless killing. I guess if we mention God it's ok to massacre.
                "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
                - Benjamin Franklin

                The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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                • #9
                  "What will we get for bombing Syria besides more debt and a possible long term conflict? Obama needs Congressional approval."

                  "If Obama attacks Syria and innocent civilians are hurt and killed, he and the U.S. will look very bad!"

                  - Trump Aug 2013
                  "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
                  - Benjamin Franklin

                  The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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                  • #10
                    To hell with 'lines' in the sand...

                    The winds of change can erase them in a heartbeat.


                    On the Plains of Hesitation lie the blackened bones of countless millions who, at the dawn of victory, sat down to rest-and resting... died. Adlai E. Stevenson

                    ACG History Today

                    BoRG

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Admiral View Post
                      To hell with 'lines' in the sand...

                      The winds of change can erase them in a heartbeat.


                      As can 59 Tomahawk missiles...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Bwaha View Post
                        Sigh, I wish he'd stop watching faux news. I personally think this is another case like William R Hearst bringing the Spanish American War.

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propag...93American_War

                        It is not a question of fake news (which is possible ) but that the western public opinion believes what the ISIS media is telling them ,if Trump did nothing they would roast him, if he does do something, they will also blame him,for doing what Obama did not dare to do .

                        Given the sentimentality of to day's generation,who has been indoctrinated with the slogan : everyone is good,everyone is nice,there is not much potus can do against a video of wounded children .

                        It is mission impossible for Trump .

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ljadw View Post
                          It is not a question of fake news (which is possible ) but that the western public opinion believes what the ISIS media is telling them ,if Trump did nothing they would roast him, if he does do something, they will also blame him,for doing what Obama did not dare to do .

                          Given the sentimentality of to day's generation,who has been indoctrinated with the slogan : everyone is good,everyone is nice,there is not much potus can do against a video of wounded children .

                          It is mission impossible for Trump .
                          Trump is always the victim, always in the right, and always struggling against insurmountable odds...

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Daemon of Decay View Post
                            Trump is always the victim, always in the right, and always struggling against insurmountable odds...
                            You blame him for intervening ,and if he didn't you would also blame him .

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ljadw View Post
                              You blame him for intervening ,and if he didn't you would also blame him .
                              First off, strawman. Second, haven't you read my signature? It's been there for around six months now.

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