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  • #76
    Originally posted by Massena View Post
    Those of you who believe that Russia is benign and that the US should be friendly with Putin and his dictatorship should read this:

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/05/middle...ack/index.html

    Why wasn't CNN crying about Hillary Clinton's uranium deal if Russia is such a dangerous enemy? You people have gone off the deep end.
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    • #77
      Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
      Why wasn't CNN crying about Hillary Clinton's uranium deal if Russia is such a dangerous enemy? You people have gone off the deep end.
      Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
        Why wasn't CNN crying about Hillary Clinton's uranium deal if Russia is such a dangerous enemy? You people have gone off the deep end.
        Or her "Reset Button"?
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        • #79
          Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
          Why wasn't CNN crying about Hillary Clinton's uranium deal if Russia is such a dangerous enemy? You people have gone off the deep end.
          If they don't have fake news they just make it up.
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            • #81
              Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
              Why wasn't CNN crying about Hillary Clinton's uranium deal if Russia is such a dangerous enemy? You people have gone off the deep end.
              Are you referring to the Uranium One deal which didn't actually involve the transfer any uranium to Russia and of which Hillary had little involvement in and no deciding power over in the year 2010, four years before Russia had invaded Ukraine and six years before it used cyber warfare to influence the outcome of the election? That deal?

              I suspect that CNN wasn't "crying" about it because there's nothing to that story.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Sparlingo View Post
                Massena: Germany was no friend of ours through two world wars, but they are now.


                Japan was no friend of ours either, but they are now.

                No democracy can really trust a non democracy because they aren't held accountable, become corrupt, and they don't support the rule of law and the sanctity of treaties. .
                1) Are they ?

                2 ) Are they ?

                3 ) US needs no friends,but allies ,besides :there are no friends in foreign politics

                4 ) Trust ? You can trust no one: you only can trust a colt

                5 ) There is NO such thing as the rule of law and no sanctity of treaties .And this is a good thing .

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by ThoseDeafMutes View Post
                  Are you referring to the Uranium One deal which didn't actually involve the transfer any uranium to Russia and of which Hillary had little involvement in and no deciding power over in the year 2010, four years before Russia had invaded Ukraine and six years before it used cyber warfare to influence the outcome of the election? That deal?

                  I suspect that CNN wasn't "crying" about it because there's nothing to that story.
                  You can't really be serious

                  The story is not so much about the movement of Uranium as influence peddling. The article you linked to conveniently omits the 2005 Kazakhstan connection and other pertinent details.

                  Asking for proof is as silly as asking why the government had to resort to tax evasion to bring down Al Capone.

                  As for the Ukrainian crisis it is a civil war and like all civil wars it is messy. Weak and corrupt governments create power vacuums that other nations exploit. The situation in many ways is similar to how the U.S. created the nation of Panama. Does that make Putin a modern day Teddy Roosevelt? Not exactly but it does give perspective.

                  I would also caution you to be skeptical of Snopes.

                  https://ethicsalarms.com/2016/07/31/...ead-to-me-now/
                  Last edited by wolfhnd; 06 Apr 17, 02:57.
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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Skoblin View Post
                    (...)
                    Interesting to note: the claim is that victims died from being hit with Sarin nerve agent, yet the photos show "medical staff" treating the victims with their bare hands with no complications. Also, the photos show the patients calmly spread out in some cases. This is not what happens when a person suffers from Sarin poisoning. There are convulsions, vomiting, defecation, and spasms. You don't simply lay down, arms outstretched.
                    A shame nobody told all that to these guys...would have made for a much more believable picture.

                    Now it's like club Med.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
                      You can't really be serious

                      The story is not so much about the movement of Uranium as influence peddling.
                      You're deflecting. You said:

                      Why wasn't CNN crying about Hillary Clinton's uranium deal if Russia is such a dangerous enemy? You people have gone off the deep end.
                      You want to know why CNN didn't make a fuss about Hillary Clinton's "Uranium Deal" with "Russia". You got your answer - because the story is bullshit, and more pressingly, even if there was a real influence peddling scandal (that went on in 2010), it was long before Russia emerged as an obvious threat.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by ThoseDeafMutes View Post
                        You're deflecting. You said:



                        You want to know why CNN didn't make a fuss about Hillary Clinton's "Uranium Deal" with "Russia". You got your answer - because the story is bullshit, and more pressingly, even if there was a real influence peddling scandal (that went on in 2010), it was long before Russia emerged as an obvious threat.
                        The naivety with which people consider the Clinton's is shocking. Their entire political career has been plagued with scandals. The uranium story is simply one more chapter in a 40 year history of political corruption.

                        The next piece of Naivety has to be the Russian reset by the Obama administration that emboldened Putin. When was Russia not a threat historically? Even during WWII Russia was not really among the trusted allies. The only logical explanation is incompetence of Obama and Clinton. Anyone with any historical competency would have noted the Crimean War as how easily events can spiral out of control when divergent cultures meet at their periphery in the Crimea. The same cultural conflicts are at work today.

                        The significance of the influence peddling scandal as it relates to the Ukrainian crisis goes to credibility. The Obama administration with Clinton as secretary of state not only lacked moral authority but also lacked the necessary appearance of conviction to present a credible threat to Russian imperialism. International politics can be subtle but corruption creates a nebulous atmosphere that undermines negotiations.
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                        • #87
                          Ofc,OP conveniently forgot that there is zero evidence of chemical attack by SAA.

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                          • #88
                            Perhaps this will help regarding the uranium issue:

                            https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.adffc893d599
                            We are not now that strength which in old days
                            Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                            Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                            To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post

                              I would also caution you to be skeptical of Snopes.

                              https://ethicsalarms.com/2016/07/31/...ead-to-me-now/
                              That's the understatement of the year ; the truth is that behind snopes there is Hillary and Soros .

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                              • #90
                                More on Trump and Russia:

                                http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/05/politi...ngs/index.html
                                We are not now that strength which in old days
                                Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
                                Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
                                To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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