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  • How to milk the system, and get away with murder..

    We have the best justice system money can buy, right?
    You are paying for it, in more ways than you know.

    MALHEUR COUNTY -- He got away with it.
    After feigning insanity for years to stay out of a prison cell, Tony Montwheeler finally confessed his scheme. Now, no longer judged mentally ill, he would walk free from the Oregon State Hospital even though officials were told he was dangerous.

    That day, state psychologist Brian Hartman warned the state board considering Montwheeler’s release what might happen.
    “His risk of violence would be high and it would be most likely to target his intimate partner or other family member,” Hartman testified in December.
    He was prophetic.

    More to this story, here..
    http://www.ktvb.com/news/local/deadl...ison/426534886
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    Malheur county ?

    How did it get it's name if I may ask ?

    Edit, apparently from the Malheur River, which stems from Malheur Lake.

    So the real question is ,

    How did Malheur Lake comes by it's name ?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malheur_Lake
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Snowygerry View Post
      Malheur county ?

      How did it get it's name if I may ask ?

      Edit, apparently from the Malheur River, which stems from Malheur Lake.

      So the real question is ,

      How did Malheur Lake comes by it's name ?

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malheur_Lake
      The real question is why did you post this? It has nothing to do with the thread.
      Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
        We have the best justice system money can buy, right?
        You are paying for it, in more ways than you know.


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        Something wrong here, because by law, once declared sane again, the subject is supposed to begin serving his his time. That's how it works in most states.

        However, "mental health" is one of those major oxymorons that defines an entire class of so-called "specialists".
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
          We have the best justice system money can buy, right?
          You are paying for it, in more ways than you know.


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          I just saw a story on John Hinckley and thought the same thing
          he tried to murder the POTUS, and he's out and about !!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Snowygerry View Post
            Malheur county ?

            How did it get it's name if I may ask ?

            Edit, apparently from the Malheur River, which stems from Malheur Lake.

            So the real question is ,

            How did Malheur Lake comes by it's name ?

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malheur_Lake
            Totally off topic,
            A man has murdered several people and all you want to know is how the county in which he committed his latest crimes got named?
            Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
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            • #7
              What about his defense attorney who advised him to play crazy after his first murder charge?
              Shouldn't he be culpable? He knew his client was not crazy.
              Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
              Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
                What about his defense attorney who advised him to play crazy after his first murder charge?
                Shouldn't he be culpable? He knew his client was not crazy.
                Not an issue. A defense attorney must do the best he or she can to defend their client even if they know the client is guilty. That is at the heart of the system.

                The average killer serves 8 -10 calendar years. This guy served 20.

                Call it a win and move on.
                Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                • #9
                  I let Snowy explaining you why , but it has a so delicious taste for us , Francophones
                  That rug really tied the room together

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by sebfrench76 View Post
                    I let Snowy explaining you why , but it has a so delicious taste for us , Francophones
                    What does? Naming counties or hijacking threads?
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                    • #11
                      Ok, in french "malheur" means "misfortune" in English.So for us , it happened in the county of the lake of misfortune.Pretty exotic , isn't it?
                      Made my day personally, but I am happy with very few things
                      That rug really tied the room together

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by sebfrench76 View Post
                        Ok, in french "malheur" means "misfortune" in English.So for us , it happened in the county of the lake of misfortune.Pretty exotic , isn't it?
                        Made my day personally, but I am happy with very few things
                        Well, it's good to know that it takes so little to keep you happy. Based on that, our Grand Teton mountains ought to make you positively delirious.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
                          Not an issue. A defense attorney must do the best he or she can to defend their client even if they know the client is guilty. That is at the heart of the system.

                          The average killer serves 8 -10 calendar years. This guy served 20.

                          Call it a win and move on.
                          THE state appointed psychiatrist examined him and testified that he was sane and should face trial,
                          In his own words he stated
                          “The psychiatrist said that I wasn’t crazy, there was nothing wrong with me,” he testified. “And my attorney advised me to keep that quiet and we’ll try to get you another psychiatrist.”

                          Justice was not served, he should have never seen daylight again
                          Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
                          Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
                            THE state appointed psychiatrist examined him and testified that he was sane and should face trial,
                            In his own words he stated
                            “The psychiatrist said that I wasn’t crazy, there was nothing wrong with me,” he testified. “And my attorney advised me to keep that quiet and we’ll try to get you another psychiatrist.”

                            Justice was not served, he should have never seen daylight again
                            Very few 'never see daylight again'.

                            Twenty years inside is much better than average. Like I said, call it a win.
                            Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
                              Very few 'never see daylight again'.

                              Twenty years inside is much better than average. Like I said, call it a win.
                              Except he wasn't in a prison and when he walked out he wasn't on parole, he was a freeman.
                              Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
                              Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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