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  • U.S. attorney general says sanctuary cities may lose federal grants

    Looks like we are going to see a duel to the end.
    Enforce all the laws or take them off the books!

    WASHINGTON, March 27 (Reuters) - U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions said on Monday that cities and states that protect immigrant felons from federal immigration laws may lose grants from the Justice Department.

    "Failure to deport aliens who are convicted of criminal offenses puts whole communities at risk, especially immigrant communities in the very sanctuary jurisdictions that seek to protect the perpetrators," Sessions told a White House news briefing.

    His statement drew swift pushback from New York state Attorney General Eric Schneiderman, who said his office would continue helping local governments "have the tools they need to protect their immigrant communities."

    Sessions said the Justice Department would withhold, and potentially claw back, grants to so-called sanctuary cities and other localities, such as counties, that are not in compliance with federal immigration law.

    Sessions, who heads the Justice Department, said one of his agency's offices was expecting to award more than $4.1 billion in grants this fiscal year.

    Sanctuary cities help illegal immigrants avoid deportation by limiting cooperation with federal immigration authorities and other agencies.

    "I strongly urge our nation's states and cities and counties to consider carefully the harm they are doing to their citizens by refusing to enforce our immigration laws and to rethink these policies," Sessions said.

    He gave as an example Kate Steinle, who was shot to death in San Francisco two years ago by illegal immigrant Francisco Sanchez, who had already been deported five times and had seven felony convictions.

    The city had earlier released Sanchez from custody even though immigration authorities had filed a request that he be kept in custody until they could pick him up for removal, Sessions said.

    In his response to Sessions, Schneiderman, a Democrat, called the Republican president's immigration polices "un-American."

    “Despite what Attorney General Sessions implied this afternoon, state and local governments and law enforcement have broad authority under the Constitution to not participate in federal immigration enforcement," Schneiderman said in a statement. "As my office’s legal guidance makes clear, President Trump lacks the constitutional authority to broadly cut off funding to states and cities just because they have lawfully acted to protect immigrant families."

    Schneiderman said that public safety depends on trust between law enforcement and those they serve, but that Trump's policies "only serve to undercut that trust."

    Last week, Maryland's Democratic-controlled House of Delegates approved legislation to bar police statewide from checking the immigration status of individuals they arrest or from keeping them locked up longer than otherwise warranted at the request of federal agents seeking to deport them.

    The state's Republican governor, Larry Hogan, has said he would veto the bill if it came to his desk.

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...2nw?li=BBnb7Kz
    Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
    Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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    Democrats are drawing a line in the sand.....that will make them very unpopular with a lot of people. Publicly stating that the rights of felons, more specifically the rights of illegal immigrant felons, are more important than those of the general public.....yeah that's going to go over well.

    Of all the many things that they can Pillory the Administration for, this is one fight they should probably avoid.

    Ironically, if they fight it hard enough, it could blow up in their faces later. One of the biggest sticks the FED has to use is withholding funds.....if they successfully fight that State and Local Authorities cannot be denied Federal Funds due to State and Local policies that are counter to Federal ones.....it could result in say Departments of Education dropping Federal Guidelines entirely, States dropping Federal Rules on distribution of Medicaid Funds, and so on and so forth......

    Once the case law is decided by the USSC, it's very difficult to undo it. Hence seriously conservative courts have not undone the Warren Court Rulings.......
    Tacitos, Satrap of Kyrene

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    • #3
      Originally posted by TacCovert4 View Post
      Democrats are drawing a line in the sand.....that will make them very unpopular with a lot of people. Publicly stating that the rights of felons, more specifically the rights of illegal immigrant felons, are more important than those of the general public.....yeah that's going to go over well.

      Of all the many things that they can Pillory the Administration for, this is one fight they should probably avoid.

      Ironically, if they fight it hard enough, it could blow up in their faces later. One of the biggest sticks the FED has to use is withholding funds.....if they successfully fight that State and Local Authorities cannot be denied Federal Funds due to State and Local policies that are counter to Federal ones.....it could result in say Departments of Education dropping Federal Guidelines entirely, States dropping Federal Rules on distribution of Medicaid Funds, and so on and so forth......

      Once the case law is decided by the USSC, it's very difficult to undo it. Hence seriously conservative courts have not undone the Warren Court Rulings.......
      It will blow up in their faces except in places like the Left Coast where Progressives dominate. Anywhere else, the Democrats are just making enemies of people they need to win elections.

      It's a no-brainer when things like this happen:

      http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/...abrk/22152235/

      The illegal in this case had two prior felonies, had been deported twice, had a current restraining order against him, and had re-entered the US illegally.

      Or, this guy:

      A repeat drunk driver who finally killed someone after being in the US illegally for decades.

      http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/...-son/12440211/

      Here in Arizona, we have some really serious illegal immigrant crime every week. For any part of government not to be wanting these people arrested and deported at every opportunity should be criminal in itself.
      Last edited by T. A. Gardner; 27 Mar 17, 22:14.

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      • #4
        Can't they be charged under this law?

        http://www.fairus.org/issue/the-law-...illegal-aliens

        I posted this before and the penalties are pretty stiff.
        Credo quia absurdum.


        Quantum mechanics describes nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And yet it fully agrees with experiment. So I hope you can accept nature as She is - absurd! - Richard Feynman

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        • #5
          MS-13 gang member deported 4 times stabbed 2 women, abused child, cops say

          WASHINGTON, March 27 (Reuters) - U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions said on Monday that cities and states that protect immigrant felons from federal immigration laws may lose grants from the Justice Department.

          "Failure to deport aliens who are convicted of criminal offenses puts whole communities at risk, especially immigrant communities in the very sanctuary jurisdictions that seek to protect the perpetrators," Sessions told a White House news briefing.

          His statement drew swift pushback from New York state Attorney General Eric Schneiderman, who said his office would continue helping local governments "have the tools they need to protect their immigrant communities."

          Sessions said the Justice Department would withhold, and potentially claw back, grants to so-called sanctuary cities and other localities, such as counties, that are not in compliance with federal immigration law.

          Sessions, who heads the Justice Department, said one of his agency's offices was expecting to award more than $4.1 billion in grants this fiscal year.

          Sanctuary cities help illegal immigrants avoid deportation by limiting cooperation with federal immigration authorities and other agencies.

          "I strongly urge our nation's states and cities and counties to consider carefully the harm they are doing to their citizens by refusing to enforce our immigration laws and to rethink these policies," Sessions said.

          He gave as an example Kate Steinle, who was shot to death in San Francisco two years ago by illegal immigrant Francisco Sanchez, who had already been deported five times and had seven felony convictions.

          The city had earlier released Sanchez from custody even though immigration authorities had filed a request that he be kept in custody until they could pick him up for removal, Sessions said.

          In his response to Sessions, Schneiderman, a Democrat, called the Republican president's immigration polices "un-American."

          “Despite what Attorney General Sessions implied this afternoon, state and local governments and law enforcement have broad authority under the Constitution to not participate in federal immigration enforcement," Schneiderman said in a statement. "As my office’s legal guidance makes clear, President Trump lacks the constitutional authority to broadly cut off funding to states and cities just because they have lawfully acted to protect immigrant families."

          Schneiderman said that public safety depends on trust between law enforcement and those they serve, but that Trump's policies "only serve to undercut that trust."

          Last week, Maryland's Democratic-controlled House of Delegates approved legislation to bar police statewide from checking the immigration status of individuals they arrest or from keeping them locked up longer than otherwise warranted at the request of federal agents seeking to deport them.

          The state's Republican governor, Larry Hogan, has said he would veto the bill if it came to his desk.

          http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...2nw?li=BBnb7Kz
          Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
          Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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          • #6
            Farmers and dairy owners, restaurant operators are all addicted to cheap labor and they are fighting immigration law enforcement tooth and nail
            Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
            Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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            • #7
              This one is going to be battle royale but its a loser for the Dem's in the long run. Harboring criminals and felons especially illegal immigrants in these violent cities is stupid. The immigrants whom are here illegally and are working don't even like those gang thugs either but are afraid to speak of them or do anything. Going to be fun to see how it plays out cause my city is a "sanctuary" city for that matter so is my state Cali.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
                Looks like we are going to see a duel to the end.
                Enforce all the laws or take them off the books!
                A question for NY's idiot attorney general. How is deporting criminal aliens not a key part of protecting immigrant or native communities?
                "A foe who had fought so long and valiantly, and had suffered so much for a cause, though that cause was, I believe, one of the worst for which a people ever fought, and one for which there was the least excuse." Ulysses S. Grant

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jonny87kz View Post
                  A question for NY's idiot attorney general. How is deporting criminal aliens not a key part of protecting immigrant or native communities?
                  A better question is: What other federal criminal laws should states be able to ignore at will?

                  For example, bank robbery is a federal crime. What if a state or city decided to stop responding to bank robberies because of that? Or, they just ignored bank robbers so long as they didn't hurt anyone during the robbery? How'd that go over?

                  There's no difference here. Being in the US illegally is a crime. If you committed some other crime like assault, you get arrested. If you rob a bank and threaten people, you get arrested not just for bank robbery, but for kidnapping, etc. The state or city holds you, and reports you, to the feds for the federal crime too.

                  With sanctuary cities and such, you have a government entity willfully aiding and abetting criminals. They're furthering their criminal activity. If these localities don't like the immigration laws, they should work to get them changed, not openly defy them.

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                  • #10
                    "Sanctuary City/State" violates Article. I. Section. 10. of Constitution since they are in effect prohibited "...Treaty, Alliance, ..." with other nations since they are accepting immigrants of those other nations without proper documentation and procedures per Federal Immigration Laws and Policies.

                    Sanctuary City/State is un-Constitutional and illegal, so the Fed is within it's rights and authority to apply what sanctions and/or funding cuts they might deem necessary.
                    TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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                    • #11
                      It will do America good to get this out into the open and settle it once and for all.
                      Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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