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  • #76
    As I pointed out earlier... California gets SIX (6) extra electoral votes because of their illegal immigrant population regardless of whether they all vote or not a one votes. That gives California considerable leverage in the outcome of presidential elections, and more representation in Congress, than they should have.

    What possible reason should we be counting illegal immigrants as part of the population for deciding elections and political representation? These are people that are criminals and have ZERO right to be deciding our politics in any way, shape, or form.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Trung Si View Post
      I don't entirely buy massive voter fraud, but in California, well......
      Thus we have the Electoral College. Basically, it cauterizes corruption.

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      • #78
        Mexican citizen prosecuted for voting in Texas.

        https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/10/u...tion.html?_r=0
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        • #79
          Originally posted by The Exorcist View Post
          Thus we have the Electoral College. Basically, it cauterizes corruption.
          How?

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Daemon of Decay View Post
            How?
            I'll field that. It's an averaging tool. It removes the imbalance in a direct population (eg., direct popular vote) election by apportioning electors the way the House is apportioned to the states.
            Thus, the seven most populous states with more than 50% of the population only have about 40% of the necessary electors to vote in a president. This means states with fewer electors become important in the process widening the voter base in selecting a president.

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            • #81
              [QUOTE=T. A. Gardner;3328007]I'll field that. It's an averaging tool. It removes the imbalance in a direct population (eg., direct popular vote) election by apportioning electors the way the House is apportioned to the states.[/Quite]

              Which still seems like it's just as prone to corruption as any other method used.

              Thus, the seven most populous states with more than 50% of the population only have about 40% of the necessary electors to vote in a president. This means states with fewer electors become important in the process widening the voter base in selecting a president.
              That doesn't address corruption though, that is simply electoral socialism, taking from the haves and giving to the have-nots.

              I'm not arguing about the EC either, simply that I don't see how the EC fights corruption. Heck, it could be that those states getting the boost are the most corrupt ones and it was the bigger states with the preponderance of votes who are the clean states, meaning it actually encourages corruption rather than fighting it.

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              • #82
                It fights corruption if you assume that corruption is not equal in every state. By diluting the more populous state's impact and increasing the number of states necessary to win the electoral college you would, in effect, potentially reduce corruption. That, of course, assumes that corruption is more endemic in some states than others.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                  It fights corruption if you assume that corruption is not equal in every state. By diluting the more populous state's impact and increasing the number of states necessary to win the electoral college you would, in effect, potentially reduce corruption. That, of course, assumes that corruption is more endemic in some states than others.
                  But that is a wrong, since you are assuming that bigger states are more corrupt because they are bigger, and smaller states are less corrupt because they are smaller, which is a very big assumption to make without any evidence supporting it.

                  After all, which state is more corrupt - Texas or Louisiana?

                  Does the United States truly believe that someone is more corrupt the more people they are around? That if one moves to Montana, they suddenly become less corrupt?

                  "Well, I loved embezzling funds in Florida, but now I just can't tolerate that nonsense."

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                  • #84
                    Texas jury convicts Mexican woman of illegal voting

                    A Tarrant County jury on Thursday sentenced a Mexican woman to eight years in jail a day after convicting her of two counts of illegal voting by a non-citizen. She will also have to pay an $8,000 fine.

                    During the trial, prosecutors showed that Rosa Maria Ortega -- a 37-year-old Mexican national who public records show has lived in the Dallas area since she was 15 -- falsely claimed U.S. citizenship on a voter registration form and voted five times between 2004 and 2014, according to a news release from the state attorney general's office.

                    Ortega testified in court on Wednesday that when she voted she did not understand the difference between rights accorded to citizens and legal residents, according to the Fort Worth Star-Telegram.

                    "I didn't have the study, the guidance, the education," Ortega testified. The Star-Telegram reported that she told jurors she thought state officials would tell her if she was not allowed to vote. However, the Tarrant County voter registration form clearly states that non-citizens should not register to vote.

                    "If I knew, everything would have been done the correct way," Ortega said in court, according to the Star-Telegram. "All my life I was taught I was a U.S. citizen."
                    Houston Chronicle - Full Article

                    Funnily enough, more than one source reports her claiming to have voted Republican - including against one of the men responsible for putting her behind bars.

                    The lesson is obvious: voting can be dangerous!

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                    • #85
                      Well, I thought an article documented a real example of someone caught voting illegally would have attracted more attention. But I guess since it was Texas and not California, there's not as much room for anger.

                      Hundreds of Texans may have voted improperly

                      AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — Texas election officials have acknowledged that hundreds of people were allowed to bypass the state's toughest-in-the-nation voter ID law and improperly cast ballots in the November presidential election by signing a sworn statement instead of showing a photo ID.

                      The chief election officers in two of the state's largest counties are now considering whether to refer cases to local prosecutors for potential perjury charges or violations of election law. Officials in many other areas say they will simply let the mistakes go, citing widespread confusion among poll workers and voters.

                      The Texas law requires voters to show one of seven approved forms of identification to cast ballots. It was softened in August to allow people without a driver's license or other photo ID to sign an affidavit declaring that they have an impediment to obtaining required identification.

                      Even after the affidavits were introduced, voters who possess an acceptable photo ID were still required to show it at the polls.

                      The revelations come as President Donald Trump makes frequent claims that the nation's voting systems are vulnerable to fraud. The president has repeatedly said, without citing any evidence, that he would have won the popular vote if not for 3 million to 5 million immigrants in the country illegally who voted for his Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton.
                      AP - Full Article

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                      • #86
                        Liberal Activist Pleads Guilty To 14 Counts Of Voter Fraud—That Thing The Left Says Doesn't Happen

                        EXCERPT:
                        ...
                        Hammonds was facing up to one year in prison per count of voter fraud, but was only sentenced to six months.
                        “I just can’t overlook this. You attempted to violate the integrity of our election process in the county,” said residing Judge C. Ashley Pike.
                        “You made a mockery of our system," added Judge Pike. "If 180 days [in the county jail] doesn’t teach you a lesson, nothing will.”
                        Democrats have long been suspected of committing voter fraud, and have been quick to call foul whenever conservatives bring up the serious issue, essentially labeling such fraud as a myth used to enact "racist" laws which would require individuals to show a simple form of photo ID before voting. But as James O'Keefe's Project Veritas videos revealed during the 2016 election, voter fraud does indeed occur, often as a coordinated effort by those on the left.
                        ...
                        http://www.dailywire.com/news/14276/...-prestigiacomo
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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by G David Bock View Post
                          Liberal Activist Pleads Guilty To 14 Counts Of Voter Fraud—That Thing The Left Says Doesn't Happen

                          EXCERPT:
                          ...
                          Hammonds was facing up to one year in prison per count of voter fraud, but was only sentenced to six months.
                          “I just can’t overlook this. You attempted to violate the integrity of our election process in the county,” said residing Judge C. Ashley Pike.
                          “You made a mockery of our system," added Judge Pike. "If 180 days [in the county jail] doesn’t teach you a lesson, nothing will.”
                          Democrats have long been suspected of committing voter fraud, and have been quick to call foul whenever conservatives bring up the serious issue, essentially labeling such fraud as a myth used to enact "racist" laws which would require individuals to show a simple form of photo ID before voting. But as James O'Keefe's Project Veritas videos revealed during the 2016 election, voter fraud does indeed occur, often as a coordinated effort by those on the left.
                          ...
                          http://www.dailywire.com/news/14276/...-prestigiacomo

                          From the article

                          Booth said the criminal was caught in the fraud scam because his officer took the right precautions, making sure "all the information matches up, from their first name, middle name, last name, to all the identifiers.”
                          So the preventative measures in place worked? Check.

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                          • #88
                            Trump's Voter Fraud Commission

                            President Trump issued an EO to create a new commission to investigate claims of widespread voter fraud. According to the executive order, the Presidential Commission on Election Integrity will "enhance the American people's confidence in the integrity of the voting processes" by reviewing the policies, laws, and vulnerabilities that undermine public confidence and could lead to "fraudulent voter registrations and fraudulent voting."



                            This is long overdue. Now that the Republicans are in control, maybe we can try to clean up the rolls.
                            The Social Security office know who are dead, that will clean up quite a bit.

                            I still get voter stuff for family members who have long passed on.
                            No matter how many times we notify the San Francisco Department of Elections, it just doesn't stop. I wonder why....
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                            "A wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a fool can learn from a wise answer." ~ Bruce Lee

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                              As I pointed out earlier... California gets SIX (6) extra electoral votes because of their illegal immigrant population regardless of whether they all vote or not a one votes. That gives California considerable leverage in the outcome of presidential elections, and more representation in Congress, than they should have.

                              What possible reason should we be counting illegal immigrants as part of the population for deciding elections and political representation? These are people that are criminals and have ZERO right to be deciding our politics in any way, shape, or form.
                              "Goldman and Rozell do the math on which states would gain and lose votes and find that if illegal immigrants and non-citizens were not counted towards electoral vote allocation, the GOP would likely gain four electoral votes and the Democrats could lose four."

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