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    It's been reported that the bust of Sir Winston Churchill has been returned to the Oval Office.
    Could this be in respect of Prime Minister May's incoming visit or could it have deeper significance ?
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  • #2
    Originally posted by BELGRAVE View Post
    It's been reported that the bust of Sir Winston Churchill has been returned to the Oval Office.
    Could this be in respect of Prime Minister May's incoming visit or could it have deeper significance ?
    Yes, Sir Winston Churchill did go back to the Oval Office.

    The MSM decided to report that the Martin Luther King Jr. bust was removed from the Oval Office...........it wasn't.

    President Trump mouths off about fake news, MSM jumps on the President for claiming false news.....

    The MSM is playing President Trump like a violin.
    "I don't discuss sitting presidents," Mattis tells NPR in an interview. "I believe that you owe a period of quiet."

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Nichols View Post
      Yes, Sir Winston Churchill did go back to the Oval Office.

      The MSM decided to report that the Martin Luther King Jr. bust was removed from the Oval Office...........it wasn't.

      President Trump mouths off about fake news, MSM jumps on the President for claiming false news.....

      The MSM is playing President Trump like a violin.
      I think its the other way around...



      Trust in the media was already in decline prior to 2016. Then a year of rampant fake news, mostly attacking Trump, has caused it to nosedive.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by BELGRAVE View Post
        It's been reported that the bust of Sir Winston Churchill has been returned to the Oval Office.
        Could this be in respect of Prime Minister May's incoming visit or could it have deeper significance ?
        I think its indicative of much deeper significance...

        https://www.politicshome.com/news/wo...k-relationship

        http://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/01/w...britain-needs/
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        • #5
          Haven't we been told more than once that the bust had been returned to the UK?
          "Ask not what your country can do for you"

          Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

          you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
            Haven't we been told more than once that the bust had been returned to the UK?
            There were two Chuchill busts. One was moved to the residence wing of the White House and one was sent back to the UK (British Embassy).
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Nichols View Post
              Yes, Sir Winston Churchill did go back to the Oval Office.

              The MSM decided to report that the Martin Luther King Jr. bust was removed from the Oval Office...........it wasn't.

              President Trump mouths off about fake news, MSM jumps on the President for claiming false news.....

              The MSM is playing President Trump like a violin.
              The Right-wing press reported that Mr Obama had returned the Churchill bust to the UK Embassy... it wasn't.....

              See how that works.
              “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
              “To talk of many things:
              Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
              Of cabbages—and kings—
              And why the sea is boiling hot—
              And whether pigs have wings.”
              ― Lewis Carroll

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
                The Right-wing press reported that Mr Obama had returned the Churchill bust to the UK Embassy... it wasn't.....

                See how that works.
                One Churchill bust was returned to the UK.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by The Doctor View Post
                  One Churchill bust was returned to the UK.
                  The one from the Oval Office was moved to the Private Residence upstairs.
                  “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
                  “To talk of many things:
                  Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
                  Of cabbages—and kings—
                  And why the sea is boiling hot—
                  And whether pigs have wings.”
                  ― Lewis Carroll

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
                    The one from the Oval Office was moved to the Private Residence upstairs.
                    And the other one was returned to the UK. Hence the confusion.

                    Whereas, there was no justification for confusion about the MLK bust.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by The Doctor View Post
                      And the other one was returned to the UK. Hence the confusion.

                      Whereas, there was no justification for confusion about the MLK bust.
                      Yes, there was, the reported describe exactly what happened. Nice alternative fact there Doc. Where as the right-wing attack on Mr Obama over the non-issue Bust went on for many days.
                      “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
                      “To talk of many things:
                      Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
                      Of cabbages—and kings—
                      And why the sea is boiling hot—
                      And whether pigs have wings.”
                      ― Lewis Carroll

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                      • #12



                        Good thing it's only a bust.

                        We could have had a major problem.
                        "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                        Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                        you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
                          Yes, there was, the reported describe exactly what happened. Nice alternative fact there Doc. Where as the right-wing attack on Mr Obama over the non-issue Bust went on for many days.
                          Yes they did... But, in that case, there actually was a basis for the confusion. However, the attacks were based on an incorrect report.

                          In this case, there was no basis for confusion at all, just a media lie.

                          Obama moved the Oval Office bust to a table outside of the Treaty Room of the Residence Wing to make room for the MLK bust. Another bust, by the same British sculptor, had been loaned to the Bush Administration, was returned to the UK and is currently in the British ambassador's residence.

                          Obama replaced the Churchill bus in the Oval Office with the MLK bust because he was the first African American president. Trump had every right to move it out of the Oval Office because it lacks the same significance to him. Had Trump moved the MLK bust out of the Oval Office, there would have been a media frenzy and probably riots.

                          But, Trump opted to leave the MLK bust in the Oval Office.

                          So...

                          The story that the Oval Office Churchill bust was returned to the UK was wrong. However bust was removed from the Oval Office and another bust was returned to the UK.

                          The story that Trump removed the MLK bust from the Oval Office was 100% fake news.
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                          • #14
                            Ah yes, so much to worry about.
                            "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                            Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                            you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by The Doctor View Post
                              Yes they did... But, in that case, there actually was a basis for the confusion. However, the attacks were based on an incorrect report.

                              In this case, there was no basis for confusion at all, just a media lie.

                              Obama moved the Oval Office bust to a table outside of the Treaty Room of the Residence Wing to make room for the MLK bust. Another bust, by the same British sculptor, had been loaned to the Bush Administration, was returned to the UK and is currently in the British ambassador's residence.

                              Obama replaced the Churchill bus in the Oval Office with the MLK bust because he was the first African American president. Trump had every right to move it out of the Oval Office because it lacks the same significance to him. Had Trump moved the MLK bust out of the Oval Office, there would have been a media frenzy and probably riots.

                              But, Trump opted to leave the MLK bust in the Oval Office.

                              So...

                              The story that the Oval Office Churchill bust was returned to the UK was wrong. However bust was removed from the Oval Office and another bust was returned to the UK.

                              The story that Trump removed the MLK bust from the Oval Office was 100% fake news.
                              The facts are out, no it was not a lie, it was a mistake. Simple really. It was fake news only in the fact that it was wrong and it was quickly corrected. Something that was not true with the Churchill bust.

                              The Churchill bust was a non-story played up in the right-wing media for the sole purpose of de-legitimatizing then President Obama early days in office. She how that stuff works.
                              “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
                              “To talk of many things:
                              Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
                              Of cabbages—and kings—
                              And why the sea is boiling hot—
                              And whether pigs have wings.”
                              ― Lewis Carroll

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