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    Revolving door policy in action, in the defense of Canyon County, the rest of the story is the voters have voted down bonds to build a new jail for the past two elections, the sheriff had to install tents in parking lots to house inmates.


    Revolving doors can hit you in the behind multiple times, and usually will.

    BOISE -- A Nampa man accused of stabbing one man to death and wounding another inside a downtown Boise nightclub had been arrested - and bonded out - just three weeks before the killing, prosecutors revealed Thursday.

    Jesus Manuel Garcia, 24, is facing felony charges of second-degree murder and aggravated battery.

    The stabbing happened Saturday at China Blue around 1:40 a.m. Prosecutors say Garcia was "acting aggressively," and seemed poised to get into a fight with two other men. Instead, according to the prosecution, he pulled out a pocket knife and plunged it repeatedly into both the victims.

    MORE: Suspect in China Blue stabbing identified, charged with murder

    The blade punctured the heart of 21-year-old Daviel Ruiz-Gomez Meridian. He died Tuesday at a Boise hospital after being removed from life support.

    The other victim was stabbed in the chest and torso, but survived.

    Prosecutors asked the judge to set bond a $2 million, pointing to the seriousness of the crime as well as Garcia's prior criminal history.

    The lawyers noted Garcia had received a withheld judgment for aggravated assault in 2011 before violating his probation in the case the next year. He also was convicted of misdemeanors for battery, trespassing and carrying a concealed weapon in the years following.

    Garcia had also been arrested in Canyon County for felony possession of a controlled substance Dec. 27, 2016, but was released on bond before his next court date. That case was pending against him when the suspect stabbed Ruiz-Gomez and the other man, prosecutors said.
    http://www.ktvb.com/news/crime/prose...bing/388465892
    Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
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    Release the many in there for nonviolent drug offenses as a start. Then move on to other programs for other types of nonviolent offenders so they can be released as well.
    First Counsul Maleketh of Jonov

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    • #3
      You get what you pay for. Skimp on jail beds and somebody pays.
      Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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      • #4
        How many State and Federal Prisoners is the Jail holding? Get rid of them and you would have more room. The problem with this is the County collects payment for keeping these people. Would the Jail be able to function with less income?

        How was this guy able to get bonded out?

        Pruitt
        Pruitt, you are truly an expert! Kelt06

        Have you been struck by the jawbone of an ASS lately?

        by Khepesh "This is the logic of Pruitt"

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Pruitt View Post

          How was this guy able to get bonded out?

          Pruitt
          I would guess from the proceeds of his controlled substance sales.

          His record is not all that radical. I've seen a lot worse.
          Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
            You get what you pay for. Skimp on jail beds and somebody pays.
            Well said, this is how bad the situation has become,

            CALDWELL, Idaho (AP) - The Canyon County sheriff is planning to ask the Attorney General's Office to investigate county commissioners for willful neglect of duty following a string of escapes from a jail tent facility.

            The Idaho Press-Tribune reports that Sheriff Kieran Donahue announced Thursday that he plans to send a letter suggesting the lack of safeguards at the tent facility to prevent escape are a result of inaction by the county commission.

            Donahue says he has talked to commissioners and he believes their responses indicate they know a problem exists but that they are choosing to do nothing about it.

            Commissioner Steve Rule said Thursday that he could not comment on the pending legal action.

            An inmate broke out Wednesday from the tent facility, marking the sixth breakout attempt this year.
            http://www.localnews8.com/news/sheri...sion/238228606
            Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
            Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
              You get what you pay for. Skimp on jail beds and somebody pays.
              Taxpayers are not endlessly refilled ATM's for public projects. The answer isn't to create more prisons and jails, but to decrease the number of criminals.

              Before you ask for a penny more of tax money, you need to ask where the taxpayer is going to get his increase so he can pay it.
              Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                Taxpayers are not endlessly refilled ATM's for public projects. The answer isn't to create more prisons and jails, but to decrease the number of criminals.

                Before you ask for a penny more of tax money, you need to ask where the taxpayer is going to get his increase so he can pay it.
                However, when the people demand, as they should, something be done about gang activity and crime, they must also pay for it.
                The jail in canyon county was built decades ago, not big enough to accommodate demand.
                What is the choice?
                Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
                Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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                • #9
                  Referencing the title of the thread;

                  Releasing them all doesn't work, I've experienced the results of this occurring.
                  "I don't discuss sitting presidents," Mattis tells NPR in an interview. "I believe that you owe a period of quiet."

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
                    However, when the people demand, as they should, something be done about gang activity and crime, they must also pay for it.
                    The jail in canyon county was built decades ago, not big enough to accommodate demand.
                    What is the choice?
                    You have two:

                    Expand the jail.

                    Or

                    Accept a certain amount of crime, such as the murder in the OP, as a by-product of keeping your taxes lower.

                    If jails did not have so many unfunded Federal mandates on them it wouldn't be so expensive, but that is another issue.
                    Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
                      You have two:

                      Expand the jail.

                      Or

                      Accept a certain amount of crime, such as the murder in the OP, as a by-product of keeping your taxes lower.

                      If jails did not have so many unfunded Federal mandates on them it wouldn't be so expensive, but that is another issue.
                      The schools are facing the same problem, population grew but the leaders didn't build more schools.
                      Much of the funding problem is related to transient workers who traditionally don't pay taxes but add to tax burdens...
                      Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
                      Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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                      • #12
                        An interesting side-point are the threads attacking the USA for putting too many people in jail.

                        You either control them, or you tolerate their excesses.
                        Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
                          An interesting side-point are the threads attacking the USA for putting too many people in jail.

                          You either control them, or you tolerate their excesses.
                          Effort or complacency.
                          Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
                          Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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