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  • So it turns out Chump DID meet Putin...

    Unless he was lying about meeting him...

    From:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/tape-show...213245455.html
    “Have you ever met Vladimir Putin?” Savage asks.

    “Yes,” Trump answers, emphatically.

    “You have?” Savage follows up.

    “Yes, a long time ago. We got along great, by the way.”
    "I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. I just kiss. I don't even wait. You can do anything... Grab them by the [redacted]. You can do anything."
    -The President of the United States of America.

  • #2
    Why is it that all the Republicans went crazy when Obama didn't kiss Bibi's ass and cried about the US deserting its ally. Now, Trump is talking about cozying up to Russia and ignoring most of Europe and there's not a peep out of them. They've also been our allies for a long time and haven't caused us any of the trouble that Israel has.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by johns624 View Post
      Why is it that all the Republicans went crazy when Obama didn't kiss Bibi's ass and cried about the US deserting its ally. Now, Trump is talking about cozying up to Russia and ignoring most of Europe and there's not a peep out of them. They've also been our allies for a long time and haven't caused us any of the trouble that Israel has.
      The main reason would be pure tribalism. But there's also more to it in some cases. Some on the right have admired Putin as being a strong leader for a long time. Simultaneously, Europe is seen as the epicenter of all of those evil socialist feminist homosexual intersex/genderqueer atheistic agendas they're so worried about. Russia is more conservative, Western Europe is more liberal. A lot of right wingers cheered on as Brexit happened and some now want people like Le Penn to come to power and deliver the coup de grace to the EU.

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      • #4
        Yeah, everyone wants a strongman until they have to live under one...

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        • #5
          Originally posted by armor11 View Post
          Unless he was lying about meeting him...

          From:

          https://www.yahoo.com/news/tape-show...213245455.html
          And?

          Bobo has met Putin too. Big deal.
          A new life awaits you in the off world colonies; the chance to begin again in a golden land of opportunity and adventure!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Pirateship1982 View Post
            And?

            Bobo has met Putin too. Big deal.
            So has the Hillabeast.
            Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by johns624 View Post
              Why is it that all the Republicans went crazy when Obama didn't kiss Bibi's ass and cried about the US deserting its ally. Now, Trump is talking about cozying up to Russia and ignoring most of Europe and there's not a peep out of them. They've also been our allies for a long time and haven't caused us any of the trouble that Israel has.
              Strawman. Trump is not talking about ignoring Europe.
              A new life awaits you in the off world colonies; the chance to begin again in a golden land of opportunity and adventure!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Pirateship1982 View Post
                Strawman. Trump is not talking about ignoring Europe.
                Just making them pay for their own defense. Which works for me.

                Pull the rest of our forces out of Europe and let them pick up the slack.
                Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Pirateship1982 View Post
                  Strawman. Trump is not talking about ignoring Europe.
                  Not really. He's talked about getting out of NATO. Also, we never were going to abandon Israel, we just wanted to be more evenhanded.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
                    Just making them pay for their own defense. Which works for me.

                    Pull the rest of our forces out of Europe and let them pick up the slack.
                    Europe should pull its weight but I'm okay with having US troops there. In terms of logistics and deterrence I think it serves our interests to keep some guys there. Doesn't have to be huge, just enough to allow for quick response in a crisis and ensure Putin knows to stay where he belongs.
                    A new life awaits you in the off world colonies; the chance to begin again in a golden land of opportunity and adventure!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
                      Just making them pay for their own defense. Which works for me.

                      Pull the rest of our forces out of Europe and let them pick up the slack.
                      We really have very few combat forces in Europe. The only ground units we have are the 2nd Cav Reg with Strykers and the 173rd Airborne. Most of the others are tail formations to support units in the ME and other areas. The days of corps, or even divisions, is long over.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by johns624 View Post
                        Not really. He's talked about getting out of NATO. Also, we never were going to abandon Israel, we just wanted to be more evenhanded.
                        True but I'm not sure that constitutes ignoring Europe. He has said NATO is obsolete but seemed to be thinking economically not strategically. I would say he intends to counterbalance Russia, he just wants Europe to have a bigger stake in it.
                        A new life awaits you in the off world colonies; the chance to begin again in a golden land of opportunity and adventure!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Pirateship1982 View Post
                          True but I'm not sure that constitutes ignoring Europe. He has said NATO is obsolete but seemed to be thinking economically not strategically. I would say he intends to counterbalance Russia, he just wants Europe to have a bigger stake in it.
                          NATO is a military organization. The EU is the economic organization. If he's thinking economically about NATO, he better get some better advisors or listen to the ones that he has.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Pirateship1982 View Post
                            Europe should pull its weight but I'm okay with having US troops there. In terms of logistics and deterrence I think it serves our interests to keep some guys there. Doesn't have to be huge, just enough to allow for quick response in a crisis and ensure Putin knows to stay where he belongs.
                            Just so long as the natives are pulling their weight, I'm fine with it.
                            Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Pirateship1982 View Post
                              And?

                              Bobo has met Putin too. Big deal.
                              Because he can't seem to get his story straight in regard to this simple issue.....

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