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    CHICAGO (AP) — One of the most violent years in Chicago history ended with a sobering tally: 762 homicides, the most in two decades in the city and more than New York and Los Angeles combined.
    The nation's third largest city also saw 1,100 more shooting incidents last year than it did in 2015, according to data released Sunday by the Chicago Police Department. The statistics underline a story of bloodshed that has put Chicago at the center of a national dialogue about gun violence.
    The numbers are staggering, even for those who followed the steady news accounts of weekends ending with dozens of shootings and monthly death tolls that hadn't been seen in years. The increase in homicides compared to 2015, when 485 were reported, is the largest spike in 60 years.

    Police and city officials have lamented the flood of illegal guns into the city, and the crime statistics appeared to support their claims: Police recovered 8,300 illegal guns in 2016, a 20 percent increase from the previous year.
    Chicago Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson said during a news conference Sunday that Chicago is among many U.S. cities that have seen a spike in violence, including in attacks on police. He said anger at police, including in the wake of video released that showed a white Chicago officer shooting a black teenager 16 times, has left criminals "emboldened" to violent crimes.
    He also said it's becoming clearer to criminals that they have little to fear from the criminal justice system.
    "In Chicago, we just don't have a deterrent to pick up a gun," he said. "Any time a guy stealing a loaf of bread spends more time pre-trial in jail than a gun offender, something is wrong."
    Johnson, who has for months complained about Illinois' lax gun laws, said he thinks more and more gang members are arming themselves because the price for being caught is small compared to other large cities. He said gang members he has spoken to consider the court system "a joke."
    The bulk of the deaths and shooting incidents, which jumped from 2,426 in 2015 to 3,550 last year, occurred in only five of the city's 22 police districts on the city's South and West sides, all poor and predominantly black areas where gangs are most active.
    Police said the shootings in those areas generally weren't random, with more than 80 percent of the victims having previously been identified by police as more susceptible because of their gang ties or past arrests.
    The city has scrambled to address the violence. Mayor Rahm Emanuel announced last year that 1,000 officers would be added to the police department. At the same time, police officials have been trying to figure out why homicides and shootings — which began climbing the year before — suddenly surged.
    On Sunday, Johnson said he hoped several initiatives — including more street cameras in some of the city's most dangerous neighborhoods, and the expansion of gunshot-detection systems — would lead to more arrests and drive down the violent crime rate.
    Johnson has said several factors have contributed to the increased violence. He noted 2016 was the first full year since the city was forced in November 2015 to release video of the fatal police shooting of Laquan McDonald, the black 17-year-old boy who was shot 16 times by a white police officer.
    The video cost former Chicago Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy his job, sparked major protests around the city, and led to federal and state investigations of the police department.
    It also left Johnson with the task of trying to restore public trust in what appeared to be a weakened police force, a perception that was only buttressed by a dramatic drop in the number of arrests in 2016.
    The police department has cited several factors for the declining numbers, including a concerted effort not to make minor drug arrests and focus on gun violence. Johnson pointed to gun arrests and gun seizures as evidence that his officers are aggressively fighting crime.
    But critics said they have no doubt that officers have become far more reluctant to do their jobs since the McDonald video was released and the officer who killed the teen was charged with murder.
    "It's almost like a pull back so they (gangs) can kill each other sort of thing," said the Rev. Marshall Hatch, a prominent minister in one of Chicago's most dangerous neighborhoods on the West Side.
    Johnson acknowledged in a recent interview with The Associated Press that officers have become more cautious — in part out of fear of becoming the next "viral video." He also said a state law that took effect last January requiring officers to fill out lengthy contact cards when they stop someone has resulted in fewer stops, because the cards require more paperwork for officers and the cards are "scrutinized" by federal judges.
    He said those concerns are not lost on criminals.
    "Criminals watch TV, pay attention to the media," he said. "They see an opportunity to commit nefarious activity."


    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/aec6b...-764-homicides


    Man what a horrible place.
    Credo quia absurdum.


    Quantum mechanics describes nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And yet it fully agrees with experiment. So I hope you can accept nature as She is - absurd! - Richard Feynman

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    In a city with some of the toughest gun control laws around.

    Of course, CPD hasn't exactly been hitting the bricks in counter-crime activity, because with Bobo in charge, there's no point in taking chances.

    Maybe Trump can turn it around a bit.
    Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
      In a city with some of the toughest gun control laws around.

      Of course, CPD hasn't exactly been hitting the bricks in counter-crime activity, because with Bobo in charge, there's no point in taking chances.

      Maybe Trump can turn it around a bit.
      A novel approach, enforce the existing gun laws and they would have taken most of those gangs off the streets.

      Given how Obama's policies has villionized law enforcement, the "I saw Nuthin, I heard Nuthin, I know Nuthin," statements of frightened witnesses, and the slap on the hand of Progressive courts when one of those hood rats do get convicted, it is easy to see why the violence in the Chicago ghettos has exploded.

      Eventually, the problem will die down, literally, as the gang members kill each other off. The unfortunate reality will be all the collateral casualties of the innocent that occur in that process.
      “Breaking News,”

      “Something irrelevant in your life just happened and now we are going to blow it all out of proportion for days to keep you distracted from what's really going on.”

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      • #4
        This was on 60 minutes last night.

        http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minut...-gun-violence/

        This is from the transcript between 60 minutes Bill Whitaker and former Chicago police superintendent Garry McCarthy.

        Bill Whitaker: How can a police officer who has taken a vow to protect and serve defend stepping back from taking proactive action. How can you not--

        Garry McCarthy: Officers are under attack. That’s how they feel, right. That’s how they feel in this environment, and they’re not going to put themselves and their families in jeopardy.

        Frustration among cops deepened with a new order to be more selective about who they stopped, and write a two-page detailed report for every one. It was the result of a threat by the American Civil Liberties Union to sue the department for racial profiling.


        I think that explains it all.

        Chicago is reaping what they have sown. Decades of corrupt single party rule, decades of fatherless families, decades of gangs and drug dealers run amok, decades of a culture that views the police as the enemy. This was an inevitable result. It's likely to get worse before it gets better...if it ever does.

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        • #5
          Give Chicago a chance. I'm sure it can collapse into a smoldering ruin like Detroit if it tries hard!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
            In a city with some of the toughest gun control laws around.

            Of course, CPD hasn't exactly been hitting the bricks in counter-crime activity, because with Bobo in charge, there's no point in taking chances.

            Maybe Trump can turn it around a bit.
            Can you explain why the total numbers were worse under Bush when looking at the 8 year periods between the two. Single year total was higher under Bush Sr.

            The status quo has always been the same under dems and republicans. Neither side has any desire to fix inner city crime and the numbers prove that.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
              Give Chicago a chance. I'm sure it can collapse into a smoldering ruin like Detroit if it tries hard!
              With Dem leadership it is pretty much inevitable.

              At least Trump will get the AG off CPD's back. That will help. How much only time will tell.

              They really need to do something about the ACLU.
              Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by SRV Ron View Post
                A novel approach, enforce the existing gun laws and they would have taken most of those gangs off the streets.

                Given how Obama's policies has villionized law enforcement, the "I saw Nuthin, I heard Nuthin, I know Nuthin," statements of frightened witnesses, and the slap on the hand of Progressive courts when one of those hood rats do get convicted, it is easy to see why the violence in the Chicago ghettos has exploded.

                Eventually, the problem will die down, literally, as the gang members kill each other off. The unfortunate reality will be all the collateral casualties of the innocent that occur in that process.

                Did you mean: villainized
                "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
                  With Dem leadership it is pretty much inevitable.

                  At least Trump will get the AG off CPD's back. That will help. How much only time will tell.

                  They really need to do something about the ACLU.
                  Was the AG on their back in 92 when there was 943 murders?
                  "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
                  - Benjamin Franklin

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                  • #10
                    8 years of Obama and black lives seem to matter no more than ever.

                    All those liberals who support the kind of "ethnic diversity" that keep white cops on an impossibly short leash have blood on their hands.

                    It isn't poverty that causes high murder rates it's culture.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
                      It isn't poverty that causes high murder rates it's culture.
                      It isn't just Obama. Chicago was decades in the making. It is largely the result of a Progressive social-welfare state that gives the poor a perpetual handout rather than a hand up. It is the sort of thinking that the poor will willingly better themselves rather than become complacent and indolent knowing they'll always get a check from the government. That sort of welfare breeds crime like crumbling public housing projects have black mold...

                      It isn't just American Blacks who suffered under this supposedly benevolent and kind system. Native Americans have too on reservations where they get "free" homes, and all sorts of government support. The poor in many countries in Europe are no different. All those neighborhoods in large European cities that are filled with immigrants and the perpetual poor that are "no go" zones for the police? Same cause, same result.

                      The system that failed them is the State. Lack of ownership of their homes, and neighborhoods has led to indifference towards crime and caring. Drugs are an escape from a bleak existence where everything hinges around your next government check. If someone does try and improve things they find their efforts are destroyed or stolen.
                      With men unvalued by society due to their lack of education and job skills a ready alternative is the gangster life.

                      It's just another fail from the Left, just like Detroit.

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                      • #12
                        The system is working as intended.
                        "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                          Give Chicago a chance. I'm sure it can collapse into a smoldering ruin like Detroit if it tries hard!
                          I think it is drawing pretty close.
                          I won't bore you with the details, but decades of shorting the teacher's pension fund is creating a huge problem for Chicago's budget and , thus far, their only solution seems to be to demand the bankrupt state of Illinois bail them out.
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                          • #14
                            Detroit's murders are down quite a lot. We have problems but we've never really had a big gang problem, other than a few homegrown ones. We've never had the Bloods, Crips, Latin Kings, etc.
                            Detroit may not have a downtown as nice as Chicago, but we also don't have a "South Side" like Chicago, either.

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                            • #15
                              There are two words that explain the problem with Chicago and its incredible rise in deaths from gang (which is exactly what is happening)
                              Those two words?
                              Rahm Emanuel.

                              Chicago Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson blames much of the violence on gangs feuding with one another. - M. Spencer Green/AP© Provided by New York Daily News Chicago Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson blames much of the violence on gangs feuding with one another. - M. Spencer Green/AP
                              Chicago’s former top cop blamed the Windy City’s rise in homicides — including 11 over the Christmas weekend — on political pushback against police stops and other proactive measures to curb the ongoing violence.

                              Garry McCarthy, Chicago’s former police superintendent, noted Tuesday in an interview with the Daily News that the number of police stops is down by nearly 90% this year compared to last.

                              Also, the department no longer holds CompStat meetings to focus on crime hot spots, he said.

                              “We have completely flipped the script where we investigate police and not criminals,” said McCarthy, a Bronx native who once served as the NYPD’s deputy commissioner of operations under then-Police Commissioner Howard Safir during the early 2000s.

                              “And as a result, we are reaching a lawless state in this country.”
                              http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/...ans/ar-BBxDczr
                              Last edited by Urban hermit; 03 Jan 17, 08:51.
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