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  • Keep an eye on this, Judge Lifts Execution Stay for Ex-Soldier in Military Pris

    The military has not carried out an execution since 1961, Ronald Gray is one of six men sentenced to death in military courts, he has been on death row since 1988, his case has been under appeal since 2008.
    This may be the dry run for Nidal Hasan, who is one of those six death row inmates.

    KANSAS CITY, Mo. — A Kansas federal judge has lifted a stay of execution for a former soldier sentenced to death for two killings and a series of rapes, inching the man closer to becoming the military's first death sentence carried out in more than a half-century.

    U.S. District Judge J. Thomas Marten last week sided with the U.S. government in denying a bid by former Fort Bragg, North Carolina, soldier Ronald A. Gray to block the military from pressing ahead with the execution by lethal injection.

    Since a military court sentenced him to die in 1988, Gray has been held at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, where the military carried out its last execution when it hanged Army Pvt. John Bennett in 1961 for raping and trying to kill an 11-year-old Austrian girl.

    No known execution date has been set for Gray as of Tuesday. Though Gray's attorneys have said in recent court filings that they plan to ask military courts to intervene, that status of those appeals was unclear Tuesday. A message left by The Associated Press with Gray's capital public defender, Tim Kane, was not immediately returned.
    http://www.military.com/daily-news/2...ry-prison.html
    Last edited by Urban hermit; 28 Dec 16, 21:42.
    Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
    Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

  • #2
    This one will be interesting to follow. Keep us advised, please.
    Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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    • #3
      Interesting.

      38 years-he has been in the military longer than nearly anyone by now.
      Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
        Interesting.

        38 years-he has been in the military longer than nearly anyone by now.
        He was dismissed from the Army when he was convicted and sentenced by his General Court Martial.
        “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
        “To talk of many things:
        Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
        Of cabbages—and kings—
        And why the sea is boiling hot—
        And whether pigs have wings.”
        ― Lewis Carroll

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
          He was dismissed from the Army when he was convicted and sentenced by his General Court Martial.
          Then, why is he still being held at Fort Leavenworth and not in some Federal Prison?
          “Breaking News,”

          “Something irrelevant in your life just happened and now we are going to blow it all out of proportion for days to keep you distracted from what's really going on.”

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          • #6
            Originally posted by SRV Ron View Post
            Then, why is he still being held at Fort Leavenworth and not in some Federal Prison?
            He is still under military authority as he was convicted and sentenced under UCMJ. Part of his sentence was dismissal from service. Does not mean he is transferred to a regular Federal Prison.
            “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
            “To talk of many things:
            Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
            Of cabbages—and kings—
            And why the sea is boiling hot—
            And whether pigs have wings.”
            ― Lewis Carroll

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            • #7
              Exactly. Sentenced, stripped of rank, dishonorably discharged and confined at Leavenworth for life.
              Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                Exactly. Sentenced, stripped of rank, dishonorably discharged and confined at Leavenworth for life.
                Hopefully in this case the Military will eventually shorten that life. We'll see.
                “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
                “To talk of many things:
                Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
                Of cabbages—and kings—
                And why the sea is boiling hot—
                And whether pigs have wings.”
                ― Lewis Carroll

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
                  Hopefully in this case the Military will eventually shorten that life. We'll see.
                  I agree. There are certain crimes, including treason, that deserve the death sentence and not a lifetime of paid-for care.

                  Probably improve discipline in the ranks, too.
                  Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
                    I agree. There are certain crimes, including treason, that deserve the death sentence and not a lifetime of paid-for care.

                    Probably improve discipline in the ranks, too.
                    Yup.

                    Considering he pleaded guilty in a North Carolina court to all of the murder, rape etc, I'm not worried about executing an innocent man.
                    “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
                    “To talk of many things:
                    Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
                    Of cabbages—and kings—
                    And why the sea is boiling hot—
                    And whether pigs have wings.”
                    ― Lewis Carroll

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
                      He is still under military authority as he was convicted and sentenced under UCMJ. Part of his sentence was dismissal from service. Does not mean he is transferred to a regular Federal Prison.
                      Exactly. Kicked out, but kept under their control as a result of his conviction of his crime.
                      “Breaking News,”

                      “Something irrelevant in your life just happened and now we are going to blow it all out of proportion for days to keep you distracted from what's really going on.”

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SRV Ron View Post
                        Exactly. Kicked out, but kept under their control as a result of his conviction of his crime.
                        Yes, which is why I replied to AJR that he is no longer in the service and/or US Army. He is in the custody of the US Army, that's it.
                        “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
                        “To talk of many things:
                        Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
                        Of cabbages—and kings—
                        And why the sea is boiling hot—
                        And whether pigs have wings.”
                        ― Lewis Carroll

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
                          Yes, which is why I replied to AJR that he is no longer in the service and/or US Army. He is in the custody of the US Army, that's it.
                          And the point remains that if he is executed by will be by the US Army.
                          Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
                          Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
                            And the point remains that if he is executed by will be by the US Army.
                            Never said any different. Simply replied to the post that said he would be one of the longest serving Soldiers around. I wanted to make it clear this killer is NOT a Soldier and has not since the Court of Military Appeals affirmed his dismal from the service about 12 years ago. That is the point in time where the dismal becomes official.

                            Simple as that.
                            “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
                            “To talk of many things:
                            Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
                            Of cabbages—and kings—
                            And why the sea is boiling hot—
                            And whether pigs have wings.”
                            ― Lewis Carroll

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Combat Engineer View Post
                              Never said any different. Simply replied to the post that said he would be one of the longest serving Soldiers around. I wanted to make it clear this killer is NOT a Soldier and has not since the Court of Military Appeals affirmed his dismal from the service about 12 years ago. That is the point in time where the dismal becomes official.

                              Simple as that.
                              And that will become an issue as his execution date approaches. Should the military be executing civilians.
                              That is why I started the OP with the comment that we should keep an eye on this case.
                              Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
                              Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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