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  • Trump considering ExxonMobil CEO Rex Tillerson for Sec. of State?

    My first thought was that this would be a crazy idea... However, the lamestream media's response make me rethink my first thought...
    Tillerson might be the worst secretary of state contender on Trump’s list


    By Jennifer Rubin
    December 7, 2016 at 12:30 PM

    President-elect Donald Trump has — and has had for some time — a good list of qualified and confirmable nominees for secretary of state. In that group we would include Mitt Romney, John Bolton and Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.). Why would he need to go running after fringe characters... ?

    [...]

    Among the worst, the most preposterous, contenders is ExxonMobil Chief Executive Rex Tillerson. How did he even get on Trump’s list?

    [...]

    Friends and associates said few U.S. citizens are closer to [Russian President Vladimir] Putin than Mr. Tillerson, who has known Mr. Putin since he represented Exxon’s interests in Russia during the regime of Boris Yeltsin.

    “He has had more interactive time with Vladimir Putin than probably any other American with the exception of Henry Kissinger,” said John Hamre, a former deputy defense secretary during the Clinton administration and president of the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington think tank where Mr. Tillerson is a board member.

    In 2011, Mr. Tillerson struck a deal giving Exxon access to prized Arctic resources in Russia as well as allowing Russia’s state oil company, OAO Rosneft, to invest in Exxon concessions all over the world. The following year, the Kremlin bestowed the country’s Order of Friendship decoration on Mr. Tillerson.


    [...]

    And then there is the accusation that ExxonMobil engaged in a massive attempt to conceal global warming data from the public...

    [...]

    A flock of environmental groups demanded a federal racketeering probe of ExxonMobil while New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman opened his own probe.

    [...]

    So why in the world would Trump be considering this guy? Maybe the people-pleaser Trump is trying to butter up whoever recommended Tillerson. That said, his nomination would be a disaster, one that could enrage anti-Russia hawks in both parties and anger both climate-change believers and deniers. In short, the only person who would like this nomination would be — you guessed it — Putin.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.was...n-trumps-list/

    So... We have the #ExxonKnew lie. The AG's and their Enviromarxist co-onspirators have lost nearly every court contest and are in far greater legal jeopardy than ExxonMobil. And we have the fact that Tillerson knows Putin and, more importantly, has a track record of negotiating very good deals for ExxonMobil with Russia.

    The only knock against Tillerson is his recent endorsement of a carbon tax... A position hopefully mooted by Trump's EPA nominee.
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  • #2
    If the media hates him, that is a solid plus.
    Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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    • #3
      Ride his coat tails Dave...maybe you can open up your own gas station.
      "Ask not what your country can do for you"

      Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

      you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
        Ride his coat tails Dave...maybe you can open up your own gas station.
        I couldn't afford the paycut.
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        • #5
          I don't give much weight to anything Jennifer Rubin has to say so wonder if her opposition means the guy is perfect.

          That said, I would still prefer Romney.
          Avatar is General Gerard, courtesy of Zouave.

          Churchill to Chamberlain: you had a choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor, and you will have war.

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          • #6
            Further proof, some people will support anyone or anything if dear leader tells them to.

            Tillerson supports carbon tax, is against sanctions, and is buddies with Putin. But hey the media hates him so that's enough for the simpletons to get on-board.

            Back in 2014, at a shareholder meeting, Tillerson came out publicly against economic sanctions as a foreign policy tool—something that could limit his and the Trump administration’s ability to implement Trump’s vision on the world stage. The United States and its allies regularly use sanctions to muscle an agenda—the western worldview—on the world stage, in negotiations with countries like Cuba, North Korea, Iran, and even nations like Russia or China. Taking that tool off the table would significantly undermine the ability of the president and the United States to shape world events.

            “We do not support sanctions, generally, because we don’t find them to be effective unless they are very well implemented comprehensively and that’s a very hard thing to do,” Tillerson said at the 2014 shareholder meeting.

            In remarks to the vehemently anti-Trump Council on Foreign Relations in 2007, Tillerson argued against U.S. energy independence—and for more globalist trading when it comes to energy. Tillerson said, according to Bloomberg:

            Should the United States seek so-called energy independence in an elusive effort to insulate this country from the impact of world events on the economy, or should Americans pursue the path of international engagement, seeking ways to better compete within the global market for energy?Like the Council’s founders, I believe we must choose the course of greater international engagement. … The central reality is this: The global free market for energy provides the most effective means of achieving U.S. energy security by promoting resource development, enabling diversification, multiplying our supply channels, encouraging efficiency, and spurring innovation.
            http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...ion-tillerson/
            "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
            - Benjamin Franklin

            The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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            • #7
              I think he would have a tough time getting confirmed. Trump is going to have to make a strong case for a softer position with Russia before he can expect much support. He hasn't come close to doing that. In fact, he might be falling behind.
              Last edited by Deltapooh; 11 Dec 16, 00:49.
              "As soon as men decide that all means are permitted to fight an evil, then their good becomes indistinguishable from the evil that they set out to destroy."-Christopher Dawson - The Judgement of Nations, 1942

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              • #8
                Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
                Further proof, some people will support anyone or anything if dear leader tells them to.

                Tillerson supports carbon tax, is against sanctions, and is buddies with Putin. But hey the media hates him so that's enough for the simpletons to get on-board.



                http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...ion-tillerson/
                Sacstions at leas econmic ones rarely do any thing and the hardest hit are the poorst and oppressed not the rulling regime. Who can and do use it to there advantage.
                you think you a real "bleep" solders you "bleep" plastic solders don't wory i will make you in to real "bleep" solders!! "bleep" plastic solders

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Deltapooh View Post
                  I think he would have a tough time getting confirmed. Trump is going to have to make a strong case for a softer position with Russia before he can expect much support. He hasn't come close to doing that. In fact, he might be falling behind.
                  He hasn't taken office yet, either. You do get that, right?

                  Bobo was the one pushing for a hard line against Russia, with a completely ineffectual sanctions plan. Why would the GOP regret throwing out one of his points? So long as Russia keeps its hands off the Ukraine, we can make nice.

                  Which puts more pressure on the PRC.

                  Win-win all around.
                  Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
                    Further proof, some people will support anyone or anything if dear leader tells them to.

                    Tillerson supports carbon tax, is against sanctions, and is buddies with Putin. But hey the media hates him so that's enough for the simpletons to get on-board.



                    http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...ion-tillerson/
                    Tillerson supported a carbon tax under the assumption that the US government was going to impose some manner of decrbonization measures. Ad bad as it would be, a carbon tax is the least bad option... particularly since it would have a positive effect on natural gas consumption.

                    Almost all oil companies have been forced to at least pay lip service to the global warming myth.

                    ExxonMobil's support for a carbon tax will fade quick after Trump Takes office.

                    He opposes sanctions because they are bad for our US companies who do business with Russia and not having any positive effect on Putin's behavior.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Deltapooh View Post
                      I think he would have a tough time getting confirmed. Trump is going to have to make a strong case for a softer position with Russia before he can expect much support. He hasn't come close to doing that. In fact, he might be falling behind.
                      This will be Trump’s biggest hurdle.
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                      • #12


                        "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                        Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                        you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post


                          Tillerson swapped interest in six Gulf of Mexico projects for interests in and operatorship of numerous Rosneft projects in the Russian Arctic at a time when the Maobama Maladministration was preventing drilling in much of the US Arctic and Gulf of Mexico. A deal which was wide open to public scrutiny and had to be openly approved of by US regulators.

                          While Dear Leader Chairman Maobama and Her Hagness were doing this...



                          Originally posted by The Doctor View Post
                          [...]

                          Consider Skolkovo, an “innovation city” of 30,000 people on the outskirts of Moscow, billed as Russia’s version of Silicon Valley—and a core piece of Mrs. Clinton’s quarterbacking of the Russian reset.

                          [...]

                          Russians tied to Skolkovo also flowed funds to the Clinton Foundation. Andrey Vavilov, the chairman of SuperOx, which is part of Skolkovo’s nuclear-research cluster, donated between $10,000 and $25,000 (donations are reported in ranges, not exact amounts) to the Clinton’s family charity. Skolkovo Foundation chief and billionaire Putin confidant Viktor Vekselberg also gave to the Clinton Foundation through his company, Renova Group.

                          Amid all the sloshing of Russia rubles and American dollars, however, the state-of-the-art technological research coming out of Skolkovo raised alarms among U.S. military experts and federal law-enforcement officials. Research conducted in 2012 on Skolkovo by the U.S. Army Foreign Military Studies Program at Fort Leavenworth declared that the purpose of Skolkovo was to serve as a “vehicle for world-wide technology transfer to Russia in the areas of information technology, biomedicine, energy, satellite and space technology, and nuclear technology.”

                          [...]

                          https://www.google.com/amp/www.wsj.c...ons-1469997195

                          Originally posted by The Doctor View Post
                          Posted from my phone on the bus from Basecamp Houston to the office... Just posting the article was an accomplishment, considering the ride.

                          "So what?"

                          Let's see... Her Hagness illegally diverts State Department email traffic to an illegally unsecure private server, where she illegally mishandles classified information, and illegally fails to retain thousands of emails she was legally required to retain. The Donald sarcastically asks the Russians to look for Her Hagness' illegally deleted emails... And he is accused of treason and having suspicious connections to the Kremlin...

                          While, back in the real world, Dear Leader Chairman Maobama sells out our NATO allies to the Russians, while Secretary of State Her Hagness' slush fund is being funded by the Russians.



                          Otherwise, Her Hagness' actual Kremlin ties are just as irrelevant as The Donald's imaginary Kremlin ties...
                          Originally posted by The Doctor View Post
                          That was after he double-crossed the Russians (or they double crossed him). He doesn't just lie to Americans...
                          Obama had previously drawn criticism from politicians in the U.S. and Europe for canceling the Bush-era plan to station land-based interceptors in Poland and the Czech Republic in 2009. Obama was further criticized for announcing the change on the day of the 70th anniversary of the Soviet Union's invasion of Poland during World War II.

                          Conley said that announcement would "go down in the history of poorly timed announcements."

                          Obama was also caught on an open mic in 2012 telling then-Russian President Dimitry Medvedev, that "After my election I have more flexibility," with regard to the U.S.-led NATO missile defense system in Europe.

                          Obama's posture made the Poles and Czechs "very concerned" that the entire missile defense project would be abandoned by his administration, according to Conley.

                          But, she said, "What they wound up getting with the current system was more robust than they had anticipated."

                          Conley said that the Obama administration might have switched gears on the Bush plan in part because it may have been trying to "buy time in order to make the case" to Russia that the new system was not directed against them.

                          She referred to that period as "the heady days of the 'Russian Reset' and New START treaty," an attempt by the newly inaugurated Obama to repair relations with Russia and sign a new arms reduction treaty -- and signal that the missile defense shield wasn't a threat.

                          But she added, "Despite an incredible amount of consultations with Russia, the Russians never bought the argument that the system was not directed at them."

                          Tensions between the U.S. and Russia have increased in recent years following the Russia's annexation of Crimea in 2014 and intervention in Eastern Ukraine.


                          http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/11/politi...omania-poland/

                          The point is that he directly told the Russian President that he would have more flexibility to sell out our NATO allies after the 2012 election, while Clintonistas were banking rubles.

                          The Clinton Money Laundering Network still kept the Kremlin cash.
                          Originally posted by The Doctor View Post
                          Nothing that has happened since 2012 alters what actually did happen in 2012.

                          The point remains that Maobama directly told the Russian president that he would have more flexibility to sell out our NATO allies after the election while Secretary of State Her Hagness was banking rubles in 2012. While my language is colorful... These are cold, hard facts.

                          Yet, today, we have an endless stream of moronic accusations that Trump committed treason when he joke about Her Hagness' illegal diversion of State Department email traffic to an illegally unsecure private server, where she illegally mishandled classified information, and illegally failed to retain thousands of emails she was legally required to retain.
                          Originally posted by The Doctor View Post
                          Abject nonsense.

                          He cancelled the Bush-era missile shield in 2009. He told Medvedev that he would have more flexibility to sell out our NATO allies in 2012.
                          “On all these issues, but particularly missile defense, this, this can be solved, but it’s important for him to give me space,” Obama can be heard telling Medvedev, apparently referring to incoming Russian president — and outgoing prime minister — Vladimir Putin.

                          “Yeah, I understand,” Medvedev replies, according to an account relayed by an ABC News producer, who said she viewed a recording of the discussion made by a Russian camera crew. “I understand your message about space. Space for you . . .”

                          “This is my last election,” Obama interjects. “After my election, I have more flexibility.”

                          Medvedev, who last week demanded written proof that Russia is not the intended target of U.S. missile defense efforts, responded agreeably.

                          “I understand,” he told the U.S. president. “I will transmit this information to Vladimir.”

                          https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...lbS_story.html

                          The fact that he subsequently crawfished on the Russians doesn't alter what he said or the fact that the Clinton Crime Syndicate was banking rubles when he said it.
                          Originally posted by The Doctor View Post
                          Report raises questions about ‘Clinton Cash’ from Russians during ‘reset’
                          By Laura Italiano July 31, 2016

                          There’s more “Clinton Cash” trouble for Hillary.

                          A report out Monday, “From Russia With Money — Hillary Clinton, the Russian Reset and Cronyism,” raises serious questions about the cash connections between the Clintons and participants in the State Department’s failed five-year effort to improve, or “reset,” US-Russia relations during Hillary’s reign as secretary of state.

                          Key players in a main component of the reset — a Moscow-based, Silicon Valley-styled campus for developing biomed, space, nuclear and IT technologies called “Skolkovo” — poured tens of millions of dollars into the Clinton Foundation, the report by journalist Peter Schweizer alleges.

                          [...]

                          Yet, “Of the 28 US, European and Russian companies that participated in Skolkovo, 17 of them were Clinton Foundation donors” or sponsored speeches by former President Bill Clinton, Schweizer told The Post.

                          “It raises the question — do you need to pay money to sit at the table?”

                          In one example cited by Schweizer, Skolkovo Foundation member and then-Cisco CEO John Chambers donated between $1 million and $5 million in personal and corporate cash to the Clinton Foundation, the report says.

                          But Skolkovo wound up making America less safe, Schweizer argues, because it shared advanced US technology that Russia can develop for both civilian and military applications, a concern raised already by Army and FBI officials.

                          Many of Skolkovo’s research projects involved “dual-use” technologies, meaning they would have both civilian and military uses, the report said, citing one in particular — a hybrid airship called an “Atlant” developed at the Skolkovo Aeronautical Center.

                          “Particularly noteworthy is Atlant’s ability to deliver military cargoes,” including “radar surveillance, air and missile defense and delivery of airborne troops,” the Skolkovo Foundation bragged in a document Schweizer cites.

                          [...]
                          http://nypost.com/2016/07/31/report-...-during-reset/



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                          • #14
                            Russian oil teams up with Exxon Mobil to develop offshore Arctic fields

                            The Associated Press
                            on August 31, 2011 at 7:00 AM

                            Russia's state-owned Rosneft teamed up with U.S. company Exxon Mobil on Tuesday in a multibillion deal to develop offshore oil fields in the Russian Arctic -- one of the last regions with immense and untapped hydrocarbon deposits -- in return for access to resources in the Gulf of Mexico.

                            Because Rosneft does not have its own technology for deep sea drilling, it was looking for partners to develop the offshore projects in the Arctic and other regions of Russia. A deal it was pursuing with Britain's BP earlier this year fell through, leaving the path open for Exxon Mobil.

                            The oil giant already has experience drilling in the Arctic regions of Canada.

                            [...]

                            http://www.nola.com/business/index.s...with_exxo.html

                            Define irony: In 2011, the Former Soviet Union had a more favorable business climate than the "fundamentally transformed" USA.


                            Photo from AP article...



                            Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, right, and Rex Tillerson, ExxonMobil's chief executive were photographed during a signing ceremony in the Black Sea resort of Sochi, Russia, on Tuesday.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post


                              Better to jaw jaw than to war war.
                              "A foe who had fought so long and valiantly, and had suffered so much for a cause, though that cause was, I believe, one of the worst for which a people ever fought, and one for which there was the least excuse." Ulysses S. Grant

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