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    The Department of the Army will not approve an easement that would allow the proposed Dakota Access Pipeline to cross under Lake Oahe in North Dakota, the Army's Assistant Secretary for Civil Works announced today.

    Jo-Ellen Darcy said she based her decision on a need to explore alternate routes for the Dakota Access Pipeline crossing. Her office had announced on November 14, 2016 that it was delaying the decision on the easement to allow for discussions with the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe, whose reservation lies 0.5 miles south of the proposed crossing. Tribal officials have expressed repeated concerns over the risk that a pipeline rupture or spill could pose to its water supply and treaty rights.

    "Although we have had continuing discussion and exchanges of new information with the Standing Rock Sioux and Dakota Access, it's clear that there's more work to do," Darcy said. "The best way to complete that work responsibly and expeditiously is to explore alternate routes for the pipeline crossing."

    Darcy said that the consideration of alternative routes would be best accomplished through an Environmental Impact Statement with full public input and analysis.

    The Dakota Access Pipeline is an approximately 1,172 mile pipeline that would connect the Bakken and Three Forks oil production areas in North Dakota to an existing crude oil terminal near Pakota, Illinois. The pipeline is 30 inches in diameter and is projected to transport approximately 470,000 barrels of oil per day, with a capacity as high as 570,000 barrels. The current proposed pipeline route would cross Lake Oahe, an Army Corps of Engineers project on the Missouri River.

  • #2
    About time the Army did something in return for the Native Americans.

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    • #3
      Arizona has to deal with Native Americans on stuff like this project all the time. I've gotten tired of their damn whining every time some project comes up.

      Examples:
      Telescopes on Mount Graham: "Sacred site." No more description than that.
      Telescopes on Kitt Peak: "Sacred site." Same thing, vague comments about it being sacred and nothing more.
      Snowbowl using artificial snow: Complaints about their somehow ruining the land.

      But, building a casino on land the tribe purchased in the middle of Glendale AZ? They bought it, declared it tribal land and told Glendale to FO they were building a casino. After a decade of fighting about it and fighting other tribes over it, the thing got built.

      The Loop 202 around South Mountain. Protesting it's on "Sacred land." Never mind that the Gila River tribe built a casino, an outlet mall, and a hotel complex right next to the proposed path of the freeway...

      The land isn't so friggin' sacred when it's the tribe profiting from it. Want to bet if they were handed $100 million they'd shut up and go away? They'd probably offer to dig the trench themselves for that.

      Well, given it's now winter in North Dakota the US Army CoE's probably decided to stop construction until the weather gets better next spring anyway.

      But, that doesn't change that I'm tired of Native American hypocrisy when it comes to doing anything for the public good on or near their tribal land that isn't of direct monetary benefit to that tribe.

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      • #4
        Dumb decision.

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        • #5
          In eight weeks it will be reviewed.
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          • #6
            Aren't there already 2 or 3 pipelines running along that same easement?

            Somebody is looking for a whole pile of cash.
            "Why is the Rum gone?"

            -Captain Jack

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            • #7
              Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
              Arizona has to deal with Native Americans on stuff like this project all the time. I've gotten tired of their damn whining every time some project comes up.

              Examples:
              Telescopes on Mount Graham: "Sacred site." No more description than that.
              Telescopes on Kitt Peak: "Sacred site." Same thing, vague comments about it being sacred and nothing more.
              Snowbowl using artificial snow: Complaints about their somehow ruining the land.

              But, building a casino on land the tribe purchased in the middle of Glendale AZ? They bought it, declared it tribal land and told Glendale to FO they were building a casino. After a decade of fighting about it and fighting other tribes over it, the thing got built.

              The Loop 202 around South Mountain. Protesting it's on "Sacred land." Never mind that the Gila River tribe built a casino, an outlet mall, and a hotel complex right next to the proposed path of the freeway...

              The land isn't so friggin' sacred when it's the tribe profiting from it. Want to bet if they were handed $100 million they'd shut up and go away? They'd probably offer to dig the trench themselves for that.

              Well, given it's now winter in North Dakota the US Army CoE's probably decided to stop construction until the weather gets better next spring anyway.

              But, that doesn't change that I'm tired of Native American hypocrisy when it comes to doing anything for the public good on or near their tribal land that isn't of direct monetary benefit to that tribe.
              Exactly. The "sacred land" complaint has become the epitome of Amerind hypocrisy, and it's destroying their credibility. How many times can they cry "wolf" before they have to produce one?
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              • #8
                Originally posted by 101combatvet View Post
                About time the Army did something in return for the Native Americans.

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                The pipeline doesn't cross Indian lands.

                Last edited by The Doctor; 05 Dec 16, 13:13.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by The Doctor View Post
                  The pipeline doesn't cross Indian lands.
                  Like horseshoes and hand grenades, it comes close. It's in the same state, same country, on the same planet...

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                  • #10
                    The alleged "sacred burial grounds" are on private property...
                    Sacred Burial Ground Sold to Dakota Access

                    ICTMN Staff
                    9/23/16

                    Cannonball Ranch in North Dakota has been sold to Dakota Access LLC. The ranch is not the site of the Standing Rock Camp where protectors are taking a stand against the Dakota Access pipeline, but the ranch has hundreds of burials and artifacts.

                    [...]

                    Read more at http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwor...-access-165888

                    The DAPL follows the route of an existing natural gas pipeline...



                    Surprise: Dakota Access Pipeline Follows Existing Gas Line Through Protested Area
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by The Exorcist View Post
                      Aren't there already 2 or 3 pipelines running along that same easement?

                      Somebody is looking for a whole pile of cash.
                      Yep.
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                      • #12
                        I was amazed at all the horses and bicycles in the parking lots at all the protests!

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                        • #13
                          Maybe it's for the best - these are the same geniuses responsible for the levees around New Orleans.
                          Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by 101combatvet View Post
                            About time the Army did something in return for the Native Americans.


                            Says an Amerind female living entirely as a white person...
                            Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by 101combatvet View Post
                              About time the Army did something in return for the Native Americans.

                              Well, your people were living in the late Stone Age when it was. Maybe that had something to do with it.

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