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  • Trump rebuilding America's Military?

    Supported by "200 generals and admirals".

    How would this be done?
    Zhitomir-Berdichev, West of Kiev: 24 Dec 1943-31 Jan 1944
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  • #2
    Originally posted by Cult Icon View Post
    Supported by "200 generals and admirals".

    How would this be done?
    Increase spending so we can buy more F35, Littoral Ships and a couple more 13 Billion $ carriers all while cutting taxes. We've been there and done that under GW.

    We spend more than enough now, just not wisely.
    "Ask not what your country can do for you"

    Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

    you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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    • #3
      If his team can do what they have done in the private sector, you will find that for the first time in history, weapon systems and other military projects will come on line under budget and ahead of schedule. That will certainly off the politicians and their contractors that have been getting filthy rich off the taxpayers at the expense of our military personnel.
      “Breaking News,”

      “Something irrelevant in your life just happened and now we are going to blow it all out of proportion for days to keep you distracted from what's really going on.”

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
        Increase spending so we can buy more F35, Littoral Ships and a couple more 13 Billion $ carriers all while cutting taxes. We've been there and done that under GW.

        We spend more than enough now, just not wisely.

        Trump want to opt out.


        “When they say that this cannot perform as well as the planes we already have, what are [we] doing, and spending so much more money?” Trump said during an appearance on the Hugh Hewitt radio show.

        The host asked Trump his thoughts on the fifth generation fighter and the fact that it’s $160 billion over budget. Trump responded that he didn’t like what he had been hearing in security briefings.

        “I do hear that it’s not very good,” he said. “I’m hearing that our existing planes are better. And one of the pilots came out of the plane, one of the test pilots, and said this isn’t as good as what we already have.”
        "Never argue with an idiot. They'll just drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience" George Carlin

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        • #5
          Originally posted by SRV Ron View Post
          If his team can do what they have done in the private sector, you will find that for the first time in history, weapon systems and other military projects will come on line under budget and ahead of schedule. That will certainly off the politicians and their contractors that have been getting filthy rich off the taxpayers at the expense of our military personnel.
          Are you referring to fraud and bankruptcies?

          And isn't Trump 'filthy rich'? And he was born with the proverbial 'silver spoon in his mouth'?

          By the way, did you support Romney in 2012?
          We are not now that strength which in old days
          Moved earth and heaven; that which we are we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts
          Made weak by time and fate but strong in will
          To strive to seek to find and not to yield.

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          • #6
            We have this thread already going on.
            http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forum...d.php?t=174132

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            • #7
              Let's hope the US will significantly increase their military spending.
              Reaction to the 2016 Munich shootings:
              Europe: "We are shocked and support you in these harsh times, we stand by you."
              USA: "We will check people from Germany extra-hard and it is your own damn fault for being so stupid."

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              • #8
                Originally posted by SRV Ron View Post
                If his team can do what they have done in the private sector, you will find that for the first time in history, weapon systems and other military projects will come on line under budget and ahead of schedule. That will certainly off the politicians and their contractors that have been getting filthy rich off the taxpayers at the expense of our military personnel.
                Who do you think is going to be in charge of the Defense Department???? Someone modem private industry???

                Oh you silly man.

                You really did drink the cool aide
                “The time has come,” the Walrus said,
                “To talk of many things:
                Of shoes—and ships—and sealing-wax—
                Of cabbages—and kings—
                And why the sea is boiling hot—
                And whether pigs have wings.”
                ― Lewis Carroll

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Acheron View Post
                  Let's hope the US will significantly increase their military spending.
                  I don't think we need to increase military spending. I think we need to realign military spending. Stop focusing on a few flashy new toys and start overhauling the workhorses. Build a definitive PLAN! Specifically build a definitive plan for what our anticipated threats and responses are, and an objective analysis of what sorts of wars the US aught to and will be called upon to fight.
                  Tacitos, Satrap of Kyrene

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by SRV Ron View Post
                    If his team can do what they have done in the private sector, you will find that for the first time in history, weapon systems and other military projects will come on line under budget and ahead of schedule. That will certainly off the politicians and their contractors that have been getting filthy rich off the taxpayers at the expense of our military personnel.
                    I somewhat agree. He will do what he did in the private sector. He has sold the Trump brand to the public. But actually delivering value to the "investors" is going to be problematic. However, the brand has been sold so if bankruptcy is the result that is really the "investors" problem not his.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Massena View Post
                      Are you referring to fraud and bankruptcies?

                      And isn't Trump 'filthy rich'? And he was born with the proverbial 'silver spoon in his mouth'?

                      By the way, did you support Romney in 2012?
                      He increased what his father left him a hundredfold. He has never been convicted or even charged of criminal fraud, although I expect the Bill of Rights means nothing to certain people, and in real estate ventures sub-company bankruptcies are not uncommon as the market fluctuates. Like any sort of unsecured investment there is considerable risk involved.

                      Your candidate lost. Deal with it.
                      Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SRV Ron View Post
                        If his team can do what they have done in the private sector, you will find that for the first time in history, weapon systems and other military projects will come on line under budget and ahead of schedule. That will certainly off the politicians and their contractors that have been getting filthy rich off the taxpayers at the expense of our military personnel.
                        Dream on Ron.
                        "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                        Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                        you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by TacCovert4 View Post
                          I don't think we need to increase military spending. I think we need to realign military spending. Stop focusing on a few flashy new toys and start overhauling the workhorses. Build a definitive PLAN! Specifically build a definitive plan for what our anticipated threats and responses are, and an objective analysis of what sorts of wars the US aught to and will be called upon to fight.
                          Hell, let's be honest: the military could afford a budget cut. It squanders plenty of money already on things not necessary to securing the safety of America.

                          However, cutting defense spending doesn't sell well with two different but interconnected publics: the jingoists who get aroused looking at artists impressions of new equipment, and the blue-collar workers who build the damn things.

                          And hell, the general public seems to equate spending with capability, so plenty of Americans would probably equate a cut in the budget as cowardice or backing down in the face of Islamic terrorism and foreign boogie men (gotta worry about the Chinese in the garage and the Russian's in the basement).

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                          • #14
                            I think Trump will take a realistic view on military funding. Building fancy toys can be a negative, i.e. the new Zumwalt ship cannot even afford to put ammo in the guns since they cost nearly $1M each. When the Navy said when they wanted it that the ammo would be much cheaper than what they use now.

                            Manning up the military to the personnel levels it had before Obama will be a target goal.
                            "If you are right, then you are right even if everyone says you are wrong. If you are wrong then you are wrong even if everyone says you are right." William Penn.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by lynelhutz View Post
                              I somewhat agree. He will do what he did in the private sector. He has sold the Trump brand to the public. But actually delivering value to the "investors" is going to be problematic. However, the brand has been sold so if bankruptcy is the result that is really the "investors" problem not his.
                              That is why his candidacy shares a number of really important traits with Obama, the most relevant here being his status as an optimistic candidate promising hope and change.

                              Like Obama, he will need to deliver on those promises sooner rather than later to mollify his supporters, especially since (like Obama) his opponents are going to spend the next few years shaming themselves by indulging in every crack-pot theory they can to try and discredit him.

                              Hell, we still have ignorant fools who think Obama is a secret Muslim and not an American citizen. With a favorable media, how much more viable will the baloney about Trump stick in the mind's eye if he doesn't make a strong case for himself, and fast?

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