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  • Donald Trump Tells WSJ He Is Willing to Keep Parts of Obamacare

    Donald Trump, in Exclusive Interview, Tells WSJ He Is Willing to Keep Parts of Obama Health Law

    NEW YORK—President-elect Donald Trump said he would consider leaving in place certain parts of the Affordable Care Act, an indication of possible compromise after a campaign in which he pledged repeatedly to repeal the 2010 health-care law.

    In his first interview since his election earlier this week, Mr. Trump said one priority was moving “quickly” on President Barack Obama’s signature health initiative, which Mr. Trump said has become so unworkable and expensive that “you can’t use it.”

    Yet, Mr. Trump also showed a willingness to preserve at least two provisions of the law after Mr. Obama asked him to reconsider repealing it during their meeting at the White House on Thursday.

    Mr. Trump said he favors keeping the prohibition against insurers denying coverage because of patients’ existing conditions, and a provision that allows parents to provide years of additional coverage for children on their insurance policies.
    WSJ - Full Article

  • #2
    Soon people will see he is just as big a lier as any other politcal stoog. He said a lot a BS to get elected.


    After 4 years i would say no wall, no deporastions, obamcare still arround and Hillary would not of steped one foot in to cell.
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    • #3
      He began his campaign in favor of Obamacare so I'm not surprised. Should have voted for a real republican instead of Hillary's bff.
      "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
      - Benjamin Franklin

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      • #4
        It really doesn't matter what he does with Obamacare. The program will die regardless. The only possible ways to save it are going single payer and dumping a trillion + in cash into it.

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        • #5
          The Rhetoric period is over, and now it is time to focus on nuts and bolts.

          What Trump is doing is offering a face-saving way for Dems to cross the aisle: they can claim they 'saved what they could' in the face of a GOP majority.

          It is a cunning move, and a comment in an interview is not binding in case this ploy does not work.
          Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by andrewza View Post
            Soon people will see he is just as big a lier as any other politcal stoog. He said a lot a BS to get elected.


            After 4 years i would say no wall, no deporastions, obamcare still arround and Hillary would not of steped one foot in to cell.
            Bobocare is on the way out no matter who won.

            You really have to stop falling for for the obvious. Bobo swore he would close Gitmo, and its still open. Every POTUS got there on unkept promises.

            What Prezs bring it attitude. Trump will have to shift stance to deal with the realities of machine politics, but the core issue remains.
            Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
              The Rhetoric period is over, and now it is time to focus on nuts and bolts.

              What Trump is doing is offering a face-saving way for Dems to cross the aisle: they can claim they 'saved what they could' in the face of a GOP majority.

              It is a cunning move, and a comment in an interview is not binding in case this ploy does not work.
              It is - but the Dems still possess a few tricks of their own they can use.

              One of which is that, with the GOP poised to be in absolute control of the nation for the next two years, the GOP could be left holding the bag if it implodes.

              As a Democrat, I would do my best to build up a narrative of attempting to find acceptable concessions to a hard-line Republican Party (headed by Trump) who were only trying to dismantle the program entirely, regardless of who was hurt by it.

              I'd use his campaign promises and rhetoric to back up my statements and to reinforce a common perception about Trump and Republicans regarding their views on the poor and needy.

              The GOP doesn't want an Obamacare collapse while they're still in power - especially if they're still just getting their feet wet, since it will intrinsically link them to the post-collapse fallout. They can't afford not to take action against Obamacare, but they can't be seen as pulling the blocks out from beneath it either.

              Like with so many disasters in American history, just because someone before you was the root cause of what happened won't keep the public from demanding a response - or a head.

              To avoid that, the GOP may give more concessions to the Dems and ensure that Obamacare lingers on as well, perhaps in less heated areas (trade deals, perhaps?). They will claim a victory in getting certain parts repealed, the Dems will still have the framework of the healthcare plan in place, and the politicians will have successfully pushed the real costs down to the next generation, as they've done time and again.

              Though looking at real world examples, it's pretty likely that there won't be any dramatic collapse within Obamacare. Just a slow, steady decline into bloated bureaucracy.
              Last edited by Daemon of Decay; 11 Nov 16, 23:59.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Daemon of Decay View Post
                Though looking at real world examples, it's pretty likely that there won't be any dramatic collapse within Obamacare. Just a slow, steady decline into bloated bureaucracy.
                That is the key: Bobocare is not a time bomb, it is a cancer.

                With a good PR campaign showing Bobo himself praising it, Pelosi saying you have to pass it to read it, and Hillary's many comments about it, and the fact it has no impact upon the poor, there is no danger to the GOP. The DNC's contempt for the poor between elections was well-noted by all this go-around, with the GOP picking up more votes than ever in those areas.

                Or better still, maneuver the Dems into blocking a GOP effort to end it, so the continued blame rains down upon them. Thankfully Bobo's ego led to this cluster taking on his name; there isn't much if any danger it will stick to the GOP.

                Trump was elected by people angry over the waste and mismanagement of liberals, and the erosion of moral values under Obama. They see Bobocare as a bad thing, and they know exactly whom to blame. The DNC either must help dismantle the showpiece of their most recent POTUS' sad legacy, or take the fall for the money-gouging monster it has become.

                A lot of Bobo's efforts are going to end up in the toilet very soon.
                Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
                  A lot of Bobo's efforts are going to end up in the toilet very soon.
                  Of course. Which is what makes his presidency so hilarious - lots of his ratings are over inflated as a president, mostly because he managed to pass a monumental piece of legislature like Obamacare.

                  From an objective standpoint, that was a major victory for his aims.

                  But this election was not just about frustration - it was a repudiation of Obama's 8 years. The Democrats faced one of the most slimy, disgusting, endlessly mockable caricatures of all that they hate in a presidential election... and 5 million of them were too demoralized to even vote.

                  Obama's presidency will be remembered for two things: his breaking down of a major racial barrier in American politics, and for his eponymous project. He'll be like Hoover in that regard: almost entirely forgotten if he didn't have his name attached to something big.

                  Only the Hoover Dam is at least on stable ground.

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                  • #10
                    Why does Trump sound more sane than any president in my lifetime? I thought he was a clown now I'm not so sure.
                    We hunt the hunters

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by andrewza View Post
                      Soon people will see he is just as big a lier as any other politcal stoog. He said a lot a BS to get elected.


                      After 4 years i would say no wall, no deporastions, obamcare still arround and Hillary would not of steped one foot in to cell.
                      Time will tell but I don't think this will prove accurate. The GOP has strong motivation to deliver on the wall and deportations because this will reduce the number of future Dem voters. The GOP will also surely lose the next election if they don't deliver on such high profile pledges.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Escape2Victory View Post
                        Time will tell but I don't think this will prove accurate. The GOP has strong motivation to deliver on the wall and deportations because this will reduce the number of future Dem voters. The GOP will also surely lose the next election if they don't deliver on such high profile pledges.
                        Not top mention that Bobo has deported huge numbers of people. The system and infrastructure is in place, and all it needs is to kick back up to full gear. It won't really cost that much more because nearly all the costs are in existing budgets.

                        Same thing for the wall: there are already long swathes of it in place; we've been working on it for years. Trump is a salesman; he won;t have to do much to look good on the wall issue.
                        Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                        • #13
                          Bobo has allowed millions more into American than he has ever claimed to "deport". He certainly failed to deport the illegals in his own family.

                          Cherry picking good concepts from flawed legislation is simply good sense. Trump does not have to reinvent the wheel in order to remove the Obamacare package.

                          If you car isn't working properly, do you throw it out and start over, or take it into the garage and find out what can be fixed and what might be salvagable?
                          Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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                          • #14
                            The fact is that every GOP bill trying to get rid of Obamacare has included the 2 provisions Trump talked about. Nothing new here, move along.
                            The Libs are just trying to show that Trump will renig on his promises when in reality what the GOP will turn out will look nothing like the socialist program Obamacare is.
                            "If you are right, then you are right even if everyone says you are wrong. If you are wrong then you are wrong even if everyone says you are right." William Penn.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Trailboss49 View Post
                              The fact is that every GOP bill trying to get rid of Obamacare has included the 2 provisions Trump talked about. Nothing new here, move along.
                              The Libs are just trying to show that Trump will renig on his promises when in reality what the GOP will turn out will look nothing like the socialist program Obamacare is.
                              100% accurate, the republicans called for those two provisions, but the democrats wanted no input from them.
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