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  • Giuliani: 2016 vote has echoes of Andrew Jackson

    Rudy Giuliani said the 2016 election will be remembered as a throwback to the populism of Andrew Jackson, a cantankerous leader whose distrust of the establishment is legendary.

    “And Chris, I know you're a historian,” the former New York City mayor told MSNBC’s Chris Matthews late Tuesday. “This is like Andrew Jackson's victory. This is the people beating the establishment. And that's how he [Donald Trump] posited right from the beginning, the people are rising up against a government they find to be dysfunctional. And yes, it's a defeat for the Democrats, but this is a defeat for some Republicans too.”

    Not only remembered as a populist, Jackson himself was the victim of some election shenanigans in 1824, in what became known as the “corrupt bargain,” as John Quincy Adams became president thanks to a vote in the House despite not winning the most popular or electoral votes.

    But as the former mayor pointed out, Jackson would go on to win the 1828 election.


    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/1...on-2016-231035

    Andrew Jackson won both the electoral college and popular vote in 1824 yet went on to lose the election to John Q Adams. Likewise Mrs Clinton won the popular vote in 2016 but went on to lose the electoral college vote and will subsequently lose the general election.

    Btw I dont see many policy/character comparisons between Jackson and Trump/Clinton. Neither Trump nor Clinton remind me of the great Andrew Jackson...though Trump and some Trump supporters have compared Trump to Jackson.
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    Great. So just like Andrew Jackson waged jihad against the Bank of the United States, thus plunging the US into her worst recession to that point, does that mean that Trump will crusade against the Federal Reserve?

    Giuliani has long since become a caricature of himself. Why doesn't he just fade away already.
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      Jackson may have had the most Electoral Votes; but he didn't win the Electoral College because he did not have a majority of the Electoral Votes. A plurality doesn't win. It sends the election to the House.

      Jackson is probably the closest presidential analogy to Trump from a psychological perspective.
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        I think retiring the National Debt is too much to ask for at this point.
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          Originally posted by The Doctor View Post
          Jackson may have had the most Electoral Votes; but he didn't win the Electoral College because he did not have a majority of the Electoral Votes. A plurality doesn't win. It sends the election to the House.

          Jackson is probably the closest presidential analogy to Trump from a psychological perspective.
          Good point. Jackson defeated Adams wrt the electoral vote in 1824....but at the same time Jackson did not win enough electoral votes to become POTUS.
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