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  • Originally posted by andrewza View Post
    I wonder if 100% of Americans agree with you, I wonder if 100% of Americans realize that the democratic state is not democratic. All you can say is you like the system you don't speak for the people
    As undemocratic as it is, it will never change. What we need to focus on is getting more than two candidates in the Presidential debates. Our only true anti-establishment picks would have to come from a third party, which is why they're not allowed on the stage.
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    • Originally posted by Acheron View Post
      No, the only thing irrelevant are the non-voters. Those that not vote, despite being capable to, have to expect any result of the vote done by their betters, that is, voters.
      Wrong. The people consist of voters and non-voters.
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      • Originally posted by andrewza View Post
        I wonder if 100% of Americans agree with you, I wonder if 100% of Americans realize that the democratic state is not democratic. All you can say is you like the system you don't speak for the people
        We know many disagree. We are watching their temper tantrums on the news.

        And it will change nothing!
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        • Originally posted by ljadw View Post
          She did not : 47 ,8 % is not the majority of the people .

          50 % + 1 is the majority of the people .

          Bill became president with a majority of the EV and a minority of the PV, why should Donald not have this right ?
          He doesn't understand the difference between voters and the people.
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          • Originally posted by Gixxer86g View Post
            He doesn't understand the difference between voters and the people.
            His post is misleading. Clinton had a majority of votes cast in 1992 and again in 1996.
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            • Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
              As undemocratic as it is, it will never change. What we need to focus on is getting more than two candidates in the Presidential debates. Our only true anti-establishment picks would have to come from a third party, which is why they're not allowed on the stage.
              Third parties are for nutjobs.

              Hillary spent over half a billion dollars this time. Adding a third candidate would simply mean that anyone elected would be exponentially deeper into special interest pockets.
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              • I'm well aware that actually wanting to adhere to the constitution and shrink the size of government have become crazy ideas for both Republicans and Democrats alike. Only nutjubs would want such a thing in modern day America. However, if you don't want to vote for third party, then don't. They still deserve to be on the stage.
                "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
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                • Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
                  I'm well aware that actually wanting to adhere to the constitution and shrink the size of government have become crazy ideas for both Republicans and Democrats alike. Only nutjubs would want such a thing in modern day America. However, if you don't want to vote for third party, then don't. They still deserve to be on the stage.
                  No, they don't.

                  And they won't, because as usual they didn't pull enough votes.

                  As to adhering to the Constitution, we once again changed power without troops in the street. Trump is pro-gun and pro-religion. The USSC appointment is in good hands, maybe one or two more in the next couple years.
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                  • Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
                    MAYBE!

                    The Doctor had a list that included Palin and Rudy for cabinet post.
                    That's the Doctor, not Trump, I don't give a shiete about Trump, I am glad he got elected all I care about is that she can't screw up the Supreme Court for decades to come and if you think she wouldn't you have another think coming.
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                    • Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
                      No, they don't.

                      And they won't, because as usual they didn't pull enough votes.
                      How can you pull significant votes without being in the debates? Johnson doing around 5 million votes without any coverage is pretty impressive and says a lot.

                      As to adhering to the Constitution, we once again changed power without troops in the street.
                      So the constitution is safe then? Is that the bar? If so, you're setting it pretty low.

                      Trump is pro-gun and pro-religion. The USSC appointment is in good hands, maybe one or two more in the next couple years.
                      I'm not so sure about that as detailed in the other thread. Trump said he thinks there should be additional measures against guns so we'll see. Pro-religion? lol. Are you still talking about the constitution there?
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                      • Originally posted by R. Evans View Post
                        His post is misleading. Clinton had a majority of votes cast in 1992 and again in 1996.
                        In 1992 Clinton won with 43% of the votes cast.
                        He had a plurality. He did not have a majority of the votes cast, only the most votes.
                        I Only looked at the 1992 results.
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                        • Originally posted by R. Evans View Post
                          His post is misleading. Clinton had a majority of votes cast in 1992 and again in 1996.
                          Bill Clinton had majority in neither of those election cycles: 1992: 43% 1996: 49% Don't want to research the state results, but there according to the popular vote, if we take away Ross Perot, Bill might have lost either if not both of those elections.
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                          • Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
                            How can you pull significant votes without being in the debates? Johnson doing around 5 million votes without any coverage is pretty impressive and says a lot.
                            It says that we have 5 million headcases in this country. No surprise there.


                            Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
                            So the constitution is safe then? Is that the bar? If so, you're setting it pretty low.
                            What oath did you take when you joined the military?


                            Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
                            I'm not so sure about that as detailed in the other thread. Trump said he thinks there should be additional measures against guns so we'll see. Pro-religion? lol. Are you still talking about the constitution there?
                            Check out Trump's published platform. He is firmly pro-gun. And the GOP in Congress has prevented any anti-gun bill from reaching the President under Bobo.

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                            • Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
                              So the constitution is safe then? Is that the bar? If so, you're setting it pretty low.
                              EDIT MINE

                              If someone feels the opposite party is a danger to the Constitution, then yes. It's the bar, the meat, the end all of your vote.

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                              • Originally posted by Salinator View Post
                                Bill Clinton had majority in neither of those election cycles: 1992: 43% 1996: 49% Don't want to research the state results, but there according to the popular vote, if we take away Ross Perot, Bill might have lost either if not both of those elections.

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