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    I spent the afternoon looking at news outlets from the Middle East no found a couple that I thought I would share,

    The first is "Don't Fear Trump"
    When Barack Obama won the presidential elections eight years ago, it was met by a torrent of cheerful statements and writings. Back then, I wrote saying do not be over-optimistic. And now, it’s only been one day since Donald Trump won the elections and many rushed into making pessimistic judgments. To those I say, do not be over-pessimistic.

    Do not look at President-Elect Trump but look at the US as a state of institutions. There will be many stances, considerations and decisions which Trump’s government will deal with according to new facts. The president-elect will therefore have to make decisions based on the interests of his country and we will then sense the difference between him and Barack Obama. We expect changes but there will not be extreme changes in terms of foreign policy.

    Trump won the American elections and the electoral debate has thus come to an end. You will not hear any talk about Muslims and foreigners later.

    In about two months from now, the president-elect will sit in the Oval Office and begin his work. The Middle East with its accumulating problems will take much of his time and keep him busy. There is the war in Syria, the fight against ISIS, Iran’s, Russia’s and Turkey’s interventions, the war in Yemen and Libya, the issue of the refugees’ influx, the Palestinian cause, and above all that, the confrontation against terrorist organizations.
    In the past, the Middle East was the region of the one issue but it has now become the worst and most dangerous spot in the world. It’s a zone that’s full of problems which are out of control. Will Trump deviate much from the policy of his predecessor Obama? It’s possible that he will do that when addressing the issues which previous administrations failed to resolve, and which developments proved a threat to the interests of the US and its allies in Europe or which are related to international balances.
    Trump’s history with Muslims
    Those who have been persuaded by what’s written and said during the electoral campaigns, and who concluded that Trump is against Muslims must take two important points into consideration: Trump’s personal history and the system of the American state, its constitution and judicial institutions. The president-elect has a long personal record of dealing with Muslim people and there isn’t any racial stance documented against him. He’s never been engaged in political or media campaigns against Muslims, whether American Muslims or Muslims outside the US, even following the phobia which spread after the September 11 terrorist attacks although Trump is a resident of the traumatized city of New York.
    Meanwhile, the stance against Muslims who are affiliated with terrorism and extremism must not be viewed as a racial stance. As Muslims, this is our position too. Those who want to confuse enmity towards extremism with enmity against Islam are ideological groups that sponsor terrorist ideology and they aim to lobby to serve their political purposes.
    http://english.alarabiya.net/en/view...ear-Trump.html
    Next up,

    "Ignore the campaign rhetoric"

    Donald Trump’s earth-shattering victory as the 45th President of the United States has sent shockwaves across the Middle East. Questions about the real estate mogul’s outlandish campaign promises such as taking Iraq’s oil or restricting immigration from the “terrorist nations”, and whether those would be implemented into actual policies, are being debated in Arab policy circles.

    According to Arab diplomatic sources, who have communicated directly with high level officials in the Trump campaign, Trump the candidate might not be Trump the President. Unpredictability and lack of coherent foreign policy define his policies in the Middle East, clouded by differences with Vice President-elect, Mike Pence, on the major issues.

    This could be a prelude to an internal debate within the Trump-Pence team and within the Republican establishment before any strategies on the Middle East are outlined.

    Three months after Trump declared his infamous Muslim ban last December, his campaign according to Arab diplomatic sources, reached out to different Middle East embassies in Washington, DC. The message from the Trump campaign to key Arab diplomats last Spring was a plea to “ignore Mr. Trump’s rhetoric on the campaign trail.”

    The outreach which was done by his staff mostly to key states in the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC), had Trump relay assurances to those governments and capitals where he has business partnerships, that “what is being said on the campaign trail is different from how he would govern”, and that he “looks forward to do business together and explore opportunities were he to win the Presidency.”

    Such messaging from Trump reflects a more calculated approach in reaching different audiences and a readiness to abandon his campaign promises for doing real time politics and business with foreign governments. His scorched-earth tactics on the campaign were meant to rally anxious voters with anti-immigration and populist economic slogans, while behind closed doors he would focus on a more well-crafted message to use with foreign leaders. This double-tongue narrative will likely continue in a Trump administration with him firing up his base publicly, while being engaged in outreach efforts -with the same people he is bashing- privately.

    What does a Trump policy look like?
    Trump’s lack of foreign policy experience and fiery rhetoric has left an impression of unpredictability and vagueness about his policies in the region. Added to that are his major differences with the second man in charge at the White House, Mike Pence who is closer the Republican establishment.
    While Trump has embraced a populist and semi-isolationist message that appeases Russia, distances itself from NATO, rejects trade deals, proposes a wall with Mexico, wants to keep the Iran deal and condemns the Iraq war, his Vice President is against all of the above. Pence has criticized Russia, defended NATO, was a staunch supporter of the Iraq war, advocated trade deals, criticized the Muslim ban, called for a safe zone in Syria and rejects the Iran deal.
    Pence, for example, supports a missile defense system in Poland and the Czech Republic to counter Russia and sees in NATO as an arch of global stability. He said on a trip to Berlin in 2014, “With continued instability in the Middle East, and Putin’s aggression in Ukraine, I believe we must take immediate steps to strengthen our mutual security by deploying a robust missile defense in all of Europe – including Poland and the Czech Republic – to protect the interests of our NATO allies and the United States in the region.”
    It was telling yesterday that Trump’s first phone call as President-elect was to the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. In contrast, in 2008, US President Barack Obama made his first phone call to the head of the Palestinian Authority Mahmoud Abbas. The new Republican President has signaled a pro-Israel shift by moving the US embassy to and recognizing Jerusalem as the Jewish State’s capital. This would be an unprecedented departure from US on one of the core final issues since 1960s.
    On Syria, Trump and Pence will have to consolidate their differences on a safe zone that the Vice President supports while the President doesn’t. Trump also has to determine how on the one hand he wants to forge a closer alliance with Russia in Syria while at the same time pledging to counter Iran who is fighting alongside Moscow in that conflict.
    http://english.alarabiya.net/en/view...rhetoric-.html
    Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.

  • #2
    I don't fear Trump (I think he is a Buffoon), what I feared was Hillary and that threat is gone, Trump will surround himself with enough competent people to make up for his incompetence.
    Trying hard to be the Man, that my Dog believes I am!

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    • #3
      Was never worried about Trump himself, it's the people's reaction to Trump that's the issue.
      "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
      - Benjamin Franklin

      The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
        Was never worried about Trump himself, it's the people's reaction to Trump that's the issue.
        The people elected him.

        Whenever you hear someone worrying about 'the people', it is always a liberal who believes that the average Joe is a moron, and that us non-whites are child-like and must be managed.
        Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
          The people elected him.
          That's not technically true.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
            The people elected him.

            Whenever you hear someone worrying about 'the people', it is always a liberal who believes that the average Joe is a moron, and that us non-whites are child-like and must be managed.
            Sort of true. 1,000,000 less than voted for Clinton.

            have you ever used the word libtard
            "Ask not what your country can do for you"

            Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

            you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Trung Si View Post
              I don't fear Trump (I think he is a Buffoon), what I feared was Hillary and that threat is gone, Trump will surround himself with enough competent people to make up for his incompetence.
              MAYBE!

              The Doctor had a list that included Palin and Rudy for cabinet post.
              "Ask not what your country can do for you"

              Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

              you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
                Sort of true. 1,000,000 less than voted for Clinton.

                have you ever used the word libtard
                Not true at all. The difference is 337,636 votes. A number that probably includes many voters who voted often, from the grave, or weren't even citizens.
                ALL LIVES SPLATTER!

                BLACK JEEPS MATTER!

                BLACK MOTORCYCLES MATTER!

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                • #9
                  Obama himself called him a fine fellow after their meeting yesterday... a meeting that went on for 90 minutes instead of the usual half-hour.
                  3 days before, Osbama had said Trump was "unfit", and a lot of other nasty things.

                  Ladies and Gentlemen, if our Hussein has already forgotten the campaign rhetoric , can't the rest of you see it for what it was?
                  How about observing actual actions and results and forming your own opinions from now on?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
                    The people elected him.

                    Whenever you hear someone worrying about 'the people', it is always a liberal who believes that the average Joe is a moron, and that us non-whites are child-like and must be managed.
                    The electoral college elected him against the wishs of the majority of the people
                    you think you a real "bleep" solders you "bleep" plastic solders don't wory i will make you in to real "bleep" solders!! "bleep" plastic solders

                    CPO Mzinyati

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
                      The people elected him.

                      Whenever you hear someone worrying about 'the people', it is always a liberal who believes that the average Joe is a moron, and that us non-whites are child-like and must be managed.
                      Ok. People are torching cities and that's a problem imo.
                      "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
                      - Benjamin Franklin

                      The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by TactiKill J. View Post
                        Ok. People are torching cities and that's a problem imo.


                        Yes, it is. But that isn't Trump's fault. That is the fault of the criminals who refuse to accept the correct operation of our election laws just because their candidate lost.
                        Mob rule is something we try to avoid.
                        Avatar is General Gerard, courtesy of Zouave.

                        Churchill to Chamberlain: you had a choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor, and you will have war.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Cambronnne View Post
                          Yes, it is. But that isn't Trump's fault. That is the fault of the criminals who refuse to accept the correct operation of our election laws just because their candidate lost.
                          Mob rule is something we try to avoid.
                          I never said it was Trump's fault. I hope we all agree that these people have every right to protest if they so choose. However, when it turns violent and destructive, then yes the finger is going to be pointed at them. You guys are so defensive now, just relax.
                          "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
                          - Benjamin Franklin

                          The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
                            MAYBE!

                            The Doctor had a list that included Palin and Rudy for cabinet post.
                            Both being far more qualified than you are.
                            TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
                              MAYBE!

                              The Doctor had a list that included Palin and Rudy for cabinet post.
                              Palin shouldn't be considered for anything anywhere near the white house. Hopefully Trump has better judgement than that.
                              "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
                              - Benjamin Franklin

                              The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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