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    Well, you could knock me over with a feather.

    I couldn't have been more wrong about where this election was going to go.

    Wild times!

    Congratulations to all those who voted for him.

    "Chin up!" to all of those who didn't.
    "I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. I just kiss. I don't even wait. You can do anything... Grab them by the [redacted]. You can do anything."
    -The President of the United States of America.

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    • #3
      The Trumpsters had passion over their candidate. The Democrats had, uh, Hillary. She had no appeal other than she was next in line. She and her husband rigged "the Bern" and it came back to haunt her with the WikiLeaks and his supporters. That's my take anyway.

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      • #4
        Thank you. But we have to remain vigilant. We can't give the rump a free ride. We have to hold him to the law and not blink. Not for one second.
        Credo quia absurdum.


        Quantum mechanics describes nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And yet it fully agrees with experiment. So I hope you can accept nature as She is - absurd! - Richard Feynman

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Bwaha View Post
          Thank you. But we have to remain vigilant. We can't give the rump a free ride. We have to hold him to the law and not blink. Not for one second.
          Well, at least it will be easier to do that than with a Hillary Presidency...

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          • #6
            Avatar is General Gerard, courtesy of Zouave.

            Churchill to Chamberlain: you had a choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor, and you will have war.

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            • #7
              Now I have to take Armor11 off my Ignore list...
              Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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              • #8
                This seems like the ideal thread for this article from the Grauniad...
                Paris climate deal thrown into uncertainty by US election result

                Many fear Donald Trump will reverse the ambitious course set by Barack Obama, withdraw the US from the accord and increase fossil-fuel spending

                Just days after the historic Paris agreement officially came into force, climate denier Donald Trump’s victory has thrown the global deal into uncertainty and raised fears that the US will reverse the ambitious environmental course charted under Barack Obama.

                International environmental groups meeting at the UN climate talks in Morocco said it would be a catastrophe if Trump acted on his pledge to withdraw the US from the deal, which took 20 years to negotiate, and to open up public land for coal, oil and gas extraction.

                Trump has called climate change a “hoax”, placing him virtually alone among world leaders on the validity of the science. The real estate magnate has promised to embark upon a four-year process of withdrawing the US from the Paris deal and has targeted the “billions and billion and billions” given to UN climate programmes and clean energy development.

                Domestically, Trump has promised to reboot America’s ailing coal industry, as well as expand gas and oil drilling, despite the fact that the growth of natural gas use has caused the downturn in coal.

                He also plans to scrap Obama’s signature Clean Power plan, which is the main policy designed to lower US emissions.

                Recent analysis by Lux Research estimated that a Trump presidency would raise US greenhouse gas output by 16% by the end of his second term, should he get one, compared to a Hillary Clinton administration. Such a shift could prove key in [debunking the junk science of AGW]...

                [...]

                https://www.theguardian.com/environm...to-uncertainty

                Whoops!!!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by The Doctor View Post
                  This seems like the ideal thread for this article from the Grauniad...[INDENT]Paris climate deal thrown into uncertainty by US election result
                  Well, if you want to start back up with the zingers....

                  I am putting a lot of trust in Chump's serial lying. He's lied to everyone, including his supporters.

                  In any event, he's going to have his hands full:

                  1) Defeat ISIS.
                  2) Build the Wall.
                  3) Deport people.
                  4) Deal with criminal fraud and racketeering charges.
                  5) Manage his dwindling empire.
                  6) Nurture his bromance with Putin.
                  7) Create a trade war with China and Mexico.

                  I don't think Climate Change will be high on his list, but it's hard to say because I don't think he has a list. The only thing one can say with absolute certainty is that whatever he's got rolling around inside that empty head of his, he's lying about it.
                  "I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. I just kiss. I don't even wait. You can do anything... Grab them by the [redacted]. You can do anything."
                  -The President of the United States of America.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by armor11 View Post
                    Well, if you want to start back up with the zingers....

                    I am putting a lot of trust in Chump's serial lying. He's lied to everyone, including his supporters.

                    In any event, he's going to have his hands full:

                    1) Defeat ISIS.
                    2) Build the Wall.
                    3) Deport people.
                    4) Deal with criminal fraud and racketeering charges.
                    5) Manage his dwindling empire.
                    6) Nurture his bromance with Putin.
                    7) Create a trade war with China and Mexico.

                    I don't think Climate Change will be high on his list, but it's hard to say because I don't think he has a list. The only thing one can say with absolute certainty is that whatever he's got rolling around inside that empty head of his, he's lying about it.
                    Climate change will be at the bottom of his list... but he can undue all of Maobama's climate malfeasance with one stroke of an eraser...
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by armor11 View Post
                      Well, if you want to start back up with the zingers....

                      I am putting a lot of trust in Chump's serial lying. He's lied to everyone, including his supporters.

                      In any event, he's going to have his hands full:

                      1) Defeat ISIS.
                      2) Build the Wall.
                      3) Deport people.
                      4) Deal with criminal fraud and racketeering charges.
                      5) Manage his dwindling empire.
                      6) Nurture his bromance with Putin.
                      7) Create a trade war with China and Mexico.

                      I don't think Climate Change will be high on his list, but it's hard to say because I don't think he has a list. The only thing one can say with absolute certainty is that whatever he's got rolling around inside that empty head of his, he's lying about it.
                      Our POTUS-to-be understands delegation extremely well. It is how he became a billionaire.

                      And as the Doc noted, it is simply a signature on a document someone else writes.

                      It is a good time. Be Happy!
                      Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by armor11 View Post
                        1) Defeat ISIS.
                        Easy, just roll back the ROEs and let our people do their jobs.
                        2) Build the Wall.
                        Not much of a challenge compared to building an interstate highway sistem
                        3) Deport people.
                        Like, one tenth the number of people who commute in cars every day?
                        4) Deal with criminal fraud and racketeering charges.
                        That phony crap the Dems came up with at the last minute? A law-school dropout could handle all that in a week without breaking a sweat.
                        5) Manage his dwindling empire.
                        "Dwindling"? Oh yeah, how's that Stock Market crash you guys thought the election would trigger?
                        6) Nurture his bromance with Putin.
                        Aww, sorry we won't be going to war with Russia? The EU was counting on that one, weren't they?
                        7) Create a trade war with China and Mexico.
                        Yeah, because that's what you need to do to get a better deal, eh? Guess again.

                        You forgot the biggest one, the one the Left hates; invigorate the economy and help everyone to a higher standard of living.
                        That is the biggie.


                        I don't think Climate Change will be high on his list, but it's hard to say because I don't think he has a list.....
                        So, you just made all that up?
                        What a shocker....
                        "Why is the Rum gone?"

                        -Captain Jack

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                        • #13
                          Whoops!!!
                          In Trump, U.S. Puts a Climate Denier in Its Highest Office and All Climate Change Action in Limbo

                          His anti-regulatory stances, support of unfettered fossil fuel production, and his threat to pull the U.S. out of the Paris agreement, send ripple effects worldwide.

                          BY MARIANNE LAVELLE, INSIDECLIMATE NEWS
                          NOV 9, 2016

                          Donald Trump's astonishing victory has turned the world of climate action upside down, setting back U.S. environmental policy and threatening the international drive to cut carbon pollution and slow global warming.

                          The stunning upset by Trump, who has routinely suggested that climate change is a hoax, threatens to unravel President Obama's climate action agenda, built on executive orders and regulations, including the Environmental Protection Agency's carbon clampdown at power plants. Trump has vowed to "cancel" the Paris climate agreement, but could cripple it by merely retreating from the U.S. commitment. As the world's second-biggest emitter of carbon dioxide pollution, the U.S. could render the global treaty meaningless, at a time when scientists are urging nations to quickly raise their ambition, or risk an escalating climate crisis.

                          [...]

                          In another disappointing outcome for climate advocates, Republicans maintained their control of the Senate, winning eight of 11 key races, as well as keeping their majority in the House of Representatives. Both chambers are strongly opposed to climate action policies.

                          The nation's climate leaders were left stunned, somber, angry and reflective. They had already prepped their wish lists for Clinton that included a massive clean energy spending program, a moratorium on fossil fuel leases on federal lands and other rules...

                          [...]

                          Now, with little chance to have their agenda heard in Washington, environmental groups will be forced to play defense. At first, that will mean an effort to block Trump's plans, perhaps by convincing Senate Democrats to block appointments or use the filibuster. Legal challenges are another avenue, but Trump will be able to quickly make his mark on the judiciary, with his appointment of a Supreme Court justice.

                          Trump has signaled plans to populate his cabinet with oil industry executives and allies, to eliminate the EPA, and to cut all federal spending on the United Nations climate process. Trump has claimed that he will save $100 billion over eight years, which appears to be based on a plan to end federal funding for solar and wind energy, efficiency, batteries, clean cars and climate science, wrote Joe Romm, a former Energy Department official and founder of the Center for American Progress' Climate Progress blog.

                          Basically, Trump has promised an America-first, drill-baby-drill energy policy. He has promised unfettered production of coal, oil and natural gas and to "bring the coal industry back 100 percent."

                          Trump said he will rescind any regulations that unduly burden energy development, including the Clean Power Plan, which, if it survives legal challenges, was to have been the cornerstone of Obama's climate action legacy and the main policy for realizing the nation's Paris goals.

                          [...]

                          Jeff Holmstead, a lawyer who represents coal-burning utilities and who spent four years as an assistant administrator in the EPA under President George W. Bush, said that if the courts don't kill the Clean Power Plan, Trump will have a number of other options. "I think it's certain the Clean Power Plan will be revoked," he said this morning. "The only question is how."

                          For his energy and environmental policy team, Trump has selected one of the nation's most prominent climate contrarians, Myron Ebell of the Competitive Enterprise Institute, to head his EPA transition. Ebell worked on policy for the tobacco industry before his years of work opposing environmental regulations and sowing doubt on climate science. Trump is also reported to be considering Harold Hamm, chief executive of fracking industry leader Continental Resources, for energy secretary, and Forrest Lucas, co-founder of oil products company Lucas Oil, for interior secretary.

                          [...]

                          Trump will be the only world leader who rejects [junk] science, according to a study by the Sierra Club. This is a particularly tough pill for climate activists to swallow.

                          [...]

                          Seven of the eight Koch-backed Senate candidates were victorious; the network's only loss was to Masto. The Koch brothers' effort was bolstered by massive spending by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and other conservative and anti-regulatory organizations, including the National Rifle Association.

                          InsideClimate News reporter Zahra Hirji contributed reporting.

                          https://insideclimatenews.org/news/0...-change-denier

                          Notes to InsideClimate News:

                          President-elect Donald Trump is not a “climate denier.” He has never denied the climate. To my knowledge, no AGW skeptic has ever denied the climate. As a professional geologist with a fairly good working knowledge of the English language, I am fairly certain that it is both scientifically and linguistically impossible to deny the climate.

                          “President Obama’s climate action agenda, built on executive orders and regulations” was designed to be unraveled because he did it all with a “pen and a phone,” rather than through legislation. Anyone with an eraser and white-out can “unravel” it.

                          “Trump has vowed to ‘cancel’ the Paris climate agreement, but could cripple it by merely retreating from the U.S. commitment.” Well, d’uh! Since the Paris climate agreement was not submitted to the Senate for ratification as a treaty or enabled by legislation from Congress, it is nothing more than an agreement between outgoing President Obama and the other signatories. In 70 days or so, it will be null & void.

                          “Republicans maintained their control of the Senate, winning eight of 11 key races, as well as keeping their majority in the House of Representatives” because the voters voted for them. This ought to be a clue as to the opinion of the majority of the voters regarding “climate change action.”

                          “Trump has signaled plans to populate his cabinet with oil industry executives and allies, to eliminate the EPA, and to cut all federal spending on the United Nations climate process” and he still won the election by a rather wide margin (only the Electoral Vote matters, it says so in the Constitution).

                          “For his energy and environmental policy team, Trump has selected one of the nation’s most prominent climate contrarians, Myron Ebell of the Competitive Enterprise Institute, to head his EPA transition. Ebell worked on policy for the tobacco industry before his years of work opposing environmental regulations and sowing doubt on climate science. Trump is also reported to be considering Harold Hamm, chief executive of fracking industry leader Continental Resources, for energy secretary, and Forrest Lucas, co-founder of oil products company Lucas Oil, for interior secretary.” To which I say…

                          Last edited by The Doctor; 10 Nov 16, 10:28.
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