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  • Originally posted by Salinator View Post
    1) Total pompous jackass examples of misogyny.
    2)Talk down to your women much?
    Originally posted by Salinator View Post

    3) General Staff whether he intended to or not was condescending to a female's opinion...
    1) How so? (Definition: "dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women.").
    2) I don't keep any women. I just have a female partner and friend (aka wife) of many years now.
    3) Why condescending? She said mad, I said sad...
    Tactics are based on Weapons... Strategy on Movement... and Movement on Supply.
    (J. F. C. Fuller 1878-1966)

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    • Re racism versus sexism: if you look at the pre-amble to Trump's very own 'Gettysburg Address' yesterday, the audience composition is remarkable at 100% white (I couldn't see a single non-Caucasian), and about 50-50 male-female. And this was invitation-only so it's the best self-serving demographic the Trump crew could pull together.

      Is the irony not lost on anyone else here, that Gettysburg is where Lincoln freed the (Southern) slaves, and here's Trump with his all white crew talking renewed division.

      Why women would vote for Trump with his misogynistic track record is beyond me, other than financial incentive, but then you can make a case that's exactly it with the hits the middle class has taken.
      Tactics are based on Weapons... Strategy on Movement... and Movement on Supply.
      (J. F. C. Fuller 1878-1966)

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      • Originally posted by General Staff View Post
        ...
        Why women would vote for Trump with his misogynistic track record is beyond me, other than financial incentive, but then you can make a case that's exactly it with the hits the middle class has taken.
        What track-record of "misogyny"?

        Virtually the entire Democrat case against Trump is a gang of phony BS-artists hired to distract from Wikileaks. Its all theatrical baloney, and I have to pity anyone that truly thinks that it is real.

        Clinton, on the other hand, has made deals and taken millions of dollars from countries that literally use women as human chattel.

        Ane you know, that's isn't even the real issue.
        The issue is that woman are not 100%, solely and obsessively focused on 'Women's issues".
        No matter how hard you on the Left try to make it otherwise, Woman, and minorities, can and DO see beyond what is solely "Their" issues. There is a great deal of other things going on out there, and they have opinions of their own on all of that.

        So enough with the smoke and mirrors designed to hide how vicious, corrupt and venal Clinton is.
        The real deal is this; do women really what a creature like Hillary to be the great example to the world, America's first female president, and do for them what Barak Hussein did for Black interests in the US?

        We shall see...
        "Why is the Rum gone?"

        -Captain Jack

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        • Originally posted by The Exorcist View Post
          We shall see...
          Yes, in court I'd imagine when Trump sues all these women, and he did say he was gonna sue ALL of them (only AFTER the election, how handy).

          Sooner or later when there's so much smoke (11 women now) you- or Melania- have to ask is it just that or is there a fire somewhere.

          As to mirrors, this election has shown other sides of America, ones that I think we'd all agree aren't too pretty.

          On Clinton v Trump:

          1) Trump takes $s from wherever he can get them, whether gambling joints or Saudi Arabia too.
          2) And do we want Trump to do for America's middle class what Hitler did for Germany's in the 1930s when they wanted 'something different' too? Bully Mexico, NATO, China et al into compliance until someone says enough is enough- all with Developer Don's finger on the nuclear button?

          Yes, there are women for Trump, a few non-Caucasian whites too, but I think women and minorities are going to make all the difference in this election by voting overwhelmingly for Clinton. Trump can find enough supporters of both genders to pack his invited audiences 50-50, but he's plainly having trouble finding any non-Caucasian whites who'd even want an invitation judging by the videos I've seen.

          Maybe that's what we're really seeing here in Trump's candidacy- the last stand of Caucasian Man-dominated America. Well wake up girls and boys, those days are gone forever.
          Tactics are based on Weapons... Strategy on Movement... and Movement on Supply.
          (J. F. C. Fuller 1878-1966)

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          • Originally posted by General Staff View Post
            Yes, in court I'd imagine when Trump sues all these women, and he did say he was gonna sue ALL of them (only AFTER the election, how handy).
            He's a bt busy ATM, in case you haven't noticed.

            And I look forward to it. Win OR lose, we will see exactly how truthful any of this garbage is true. And so far, it ain't looking good for the women who were paid to accuse Trump, nor for the NYT.

            Originally posted by General Staff View Post
            Sooner or later when there's so much smoke (11 women now) you- or Melania- have to ask is it just that or is there a fire somewhere.
            That is such a base, ignorant and Trollish argument that you need to wonder if your own self-respect is worth prostituting yourself out like this.

            Originally posted by General Staff View Post
            As to mirrors, this election has shown other sides of America, ones that I think we'd all agree aren't too pretty.
            Ah, I see, using election year shenanigans to cast aspersions on Americans again. We crude little Colonials will never be good enough for you Imperialists cum Socialists ... until we submit to Globalism I guess.
            Probably not even then.

            Originally posted by General Staff View Post
            On Clinton v Trump:

            1) Trump takes $s from wherever he can get them, whether gambling joints or Saudi Arabia too.
            He sold one floor of a building in Manhattan to them, years ago, and at what looks like the fair market rate (a small efficiency apartment in New York can go for a quarter million) and you guys are trying to compare that to the 25 million Hillary took from they for influence pedaling?!?
            That ain't just silly, its total desperation.

            Originally posted by General Staff View Post
            2) And do we want Trump to do for America's middle class what Hitler did for Germany's in the 1930s when they wanted 'something different' too? Bully Mexico, NATO, China et al into compliance until someone says enough is enough- all with Developer Don's finger on the nuclear button?
            Okay, desperation is the name of their game here, its time to play the NAZI card!

            And I already have a thread here about how appalling the idea of Hillary's finger on the same button would be.

            Clinton has had far more dealings with Putin and the Russians than Trump, and yet they are horrified at the idea of her Presidency. Putin has even told his military leaders that they must prepare for immediate war if Hillary wins.
            Top that.


            Originally posted by General Staff View Post
            Yes, there are women for Trump, a few non-Caucasian whites too, but I think women and minorities are going to make all the difference in this election by voting overwhelmingly for Clinton. Trump can find enough supporters of both genders to pack his invited audiences 50-50, but he's plainly having trouble finding any non-Caucasian whites who'd even want an invitation judging by the videos I've seen.
            Oh, there are a LOT of them out there, but Clinon's Thugs attack them any time they go out to say something.
            I could post dozens of YouTube clips of that very thing happening, dare me?

            However, there will be no screaming SJWs or club-wieilding PIAD enforcers looking over their shoulders when the ballot is in their hands.

            And BTW- how do you explain the massive turnout at all of Trump's rallies, and the low turn-out at the few Hillary has been holding?
            Wanna blame it on the weather?

            Originally posted by General Staff View Post
            Maybe that's what we're really seeing here in Trump's candidacy- the last stand of Caucasian Man-dominated America. Well wake up girls and boys, those days are gone forever.
            Yeah, yeah, same old crap, we see this every damn year.

            "YOU MUST VOTE DEMOCRAT* OR YOU ARE A RACIST S.O.B.!!!!"

            *The party of the KKK, Andrew Jacckson, Jim Crow laws and slavery.
            Not a single Republican ever owned a slave, don't you know?

            Somehow, I don't think that women as a whole are willing to dance to the same old broken record, generation after generation.
            "Why is the Rum gone?"

            -Captain Jack

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            • Originally posted by The Exorcist View Post
              1) He's a bit busy ATM, in case you haven't noticed.
              2) And I look forward to it. Win OR lose, we will see exactly how truthful any of this garbage is true. And so far, it ain't looking good for the women who were paid to accuse Trump, nor for the NYT.
              3) That is such a base, ignorant and Trollish argument that you need to wonder if your own self-respect is worth prostituting yourself out like this.
              4) Ah, I see, using election year shenanigans to cast aspersions on Americans again. We crude little Colonials will never be good enough for you Imperialists cum Socialists ... until we submit to Globalism I guess.
              Probably not even then.
              5) He sold one floor of a building in Manhattan to them, years ago, and at what looks like the fair market rate (a small efficiency apartment in New York can go for a quarter million) and you guys are trying to compare that to the 25 million Hillary took from they for influence pedaling?!?
              That ain't just silly, its total desperation.
              6) Okay, desperation is the name of their game here, its time to play the NAZI card!
              7) And I already have a thread here about how appalling the idea of Hillary's finger on the same button would be.
              8) Clinton has had far more dealings with Putin and the Russians than Trump, and yet they are horrified at the idea of her Presidency. Putin has even told his military leaders that they must prepare for immediate war if Hillary wins.
              Top that.
              9) Oh, there are a LOT of them out there, but Clinon's Thugs attack them any time they go out to say something. I could post dozens of YouTube clips of that very thing happening, dare me?
              10) However, there will be no screaming SJWs or club-wieilding PIAD enforcers looking over their shoulders when the ballot is in their hands.
              11) And BTW- how do you explain the massive turnout at all of Trump's rallies, and the low turn-out at the few Hillary has been holding?
              Wanna blame it on the weather?
              12) Somehow, I don't think that women as a whole are willing to dance to the same old broken record, generation after generation.
              Well now (*takes a deep breath before plunging into the cesspit again*):

              1) Yes, I bet. Trying to build a new business out of his political wreckage with a new media outlet ("we was robbed, see Trump TV for details").
              2) We'll see, let's hope defendants get awarded costs. If he thinks he's gonna roll over little people with lawsuits, there'll be a lot of $s helping to defend them.
              3) I just call it like I see it- on TV. Once again, I like to watch TV... Base and ignorant, I'll plead the 5th, but self-respect and prostitution? I'd vote with Donald on those.
              4) Shenanigans? In this election? By all the saints and bejaysus yes. Aspersions? I'm not casting any, other than pointing out that if an election is to choose your best citizen to lead you, the proposed choices will tend to shine a light on the society producing them.
              5) It's several million, not as much as Clinton got, but then again, she wasn't providing a New York venue for Saudi slave girls to perform, was she?
              6) If the shoe fits... I mean Donald's father was cavorting about in KKK rallies in Queens NYC in the 1920s, possibly the furthest north the KKK ever got. And some of Trump's bigotry seems similar to Lindbergh's of the same era.
              7) I'd hate either to have to even think about it, but Trump's unarguably more volatile and more likely to lose it and press it in a fit of rage or pique. Clinton would be more calculating and sanguine, and that's maybe a good thing in any scenario involving nukes.
              8) I'm sure Putin is worried about Clinton, and that's a good thing too. I bet he can't wait to go pony-riding with Trump.
              9) Yes, agreed, just not enough of them to win. Videos of Trump women? Please go ahead, that's what this thread is about.
              10) There's safety in numbers isn't there?
              11) To want Trump to win you want radical change, so there's more incentive to go to one of his rallies. If you're voting Clinton you're either anti-Trump or voting for a continuation by and large for the status quo, so they don't feel as much need to attend, just vote. Besides, Trump surely is entertainment with a capital T. Why even I'd go to one of his rallies if it was local just to see the boy in action.
              12) I agree, them nasty women are gonna vote this nasty hombre Trump out.
              Tactics are based on Weapons... Strategy on Movement... and Movement on Supply.
              (J. F. C. Fuller 1878-1966)

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              • Originally posted by The Exorcist View Post
                What track-record of "misogyny"?

                Virtually the entire Democrat case against Trump is a gang of phony BS-artists hired to distract from Wikileaks. Its all theatrical baloney, and I have to pity anyone that truly thinks that it is real.
                poor you - the man was condemned out of his own mouth.
                Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
                Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)

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                • Originally posted by MarkV View Post
                  poor you - the man was condemned out of his own mouth.
                  You have never heard of Rosie O'Donnel, have you?

                  Trust me, you don't want to.
                  "Why is the Rum gone?"

                  -Captain Jack

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                  • Originally posted by MarkV View Post
                    poor you - the man was condemned out of his own mouth.
                    That's one aspect of this whole bruhaha that I don't get: since the 1980s Trump has gone out of his war to cultivate a public image of a ladies' man, a "player," a prowler. Forty years ago he was at the opening of Studio 54. He sponsored beauty pageants. He got the hottest waitresses and performers in his Atlantic City casinos. And some of the stuff he said on Howard Stern -- on whose show Trump was a regular guest for many years -- was pretty saucy. So where's the surprise that Trump's a pig? I knew that back in high school.

                    And so did everybody else.
                    I was married for two ******* years! Hell would be like Club Med! - Sam Kinison

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                    • Originally posted by General Staff View Post
                      Well now (*takes a deep breath before plunging into the cesspit again*):

                      1) Yes, I bet. Trying to build a new business out of his political wreckage with a new media outlet ("we was robbed, see Trump TV for details").
                      2) We'll see, let's hope defendants get awarded costs. If he thinks he's gonna roll over little people with lawsuits, there'll be a lot of $s helping to defend them.
                      3) I just call it like I see it- on TV. Once again, I like to watch TV... Base and ignorant, I'll plead the 5th, but self-respect and prostitution? I'd vote with Donald on those.
                      4) Shenanigans? In this election? By all the saints and bejaysus yes. Aspersions? I'm not casting any, other than pointing out that if an election is to choose your best citizen to lead you, the proposed choices will tend to shine a light on the society producing them.
                      5) It's several million, not as much as Clinton got, but then again, she wasn't providing a New York venue for Saudi slave girls to perform, was she?
                      6) If the shoe fits... I mean Donald's father was cavorting about in KKK rallies in Queens NYC in the 1920s, possibly the furthest north the KKK ever got. And some of Trump's bigotry seems similar to Lindbergh's of the same era.
                      7) I'd hate either to have to even think about it, but Trump's unarguably more volatile and more likely to lose it and press it in a fit of rage or pique. Clinton would be more calculating and sanguine, and that's maybe a good thing in any scenario involving nukes.
                      8) I'm sure Putin is worried about Clinton, and that's a good thing too. I bet he can't wait to go pony-riding with Trump.
                      9) Yes, agreed, just not enough of them to win. Videos of Trump women? Please go ahead, that's what this thread is about.
                      10) There's safety in numbers isn't there?
                      11) To want Trump to win you want radical change, so there's more incentive to go to one of his rallies. If you're voting Clinton you're either anti-Trump or voting for a continuation by and large for the status quo, so they don't feel as much need to attend, just vote. Besides, Trump surely is entertainment with a capital T. Why even I'd go to one of his rallies if it was local just to see the boy in action.
                      12) I agree, them nasty women are gonna vote this nasty hombre Trump out.
                      "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                      Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                      you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                      • Originally posted by slick_miester View Post
                        So where's the surprise that Trump's a pig? I knew that back in high school.

                        And so did everybody else.
                        Yeah, me too. But I'm not sure everybody in the USA understands what being considered a pig in 1980s NYC really meant (remember Leona Helmsley?)- they just don't have creatures like that anywhere else in the universe outside of SF movies, and certainly not in the Mid-West. What's gone so badly wrong that much of the USA would ever consider putting up as First Citizen one of NYC's worst ever denizens?

                        Part of the problem I think lies in the 1980s NYC universe, which is a lot simpler than that of most folks and looks like this looking west:



                        Even looking east the universe is still pretty simple:



                        But in the 90s, out in the wilds beyond the Hudson the Religious Right got involved in politics, and we were forced to look anew at the inhabitants of these strange places, if only to try to discern changing voting patterns (the last time we'd looked was when we watched 'City Slickers' and though it looked dangerous, Billy Crystal had eventually made it out OK):



                        It all still baffles me why anybody- particularly women- would vote for such an odious creature as Trump.

                        But I gotta say my knowledge of English dialects has improved tremendously, what with vicariously and virtually touring the country with Fox News. Why now I can even understand what everybody is talking about in a show like this.
                        Last edited by General Staff; 25 Oct 16, 20:56.
                        Tactics are based on Weapons... Strategy on Movement... and Movement on Supply.
                        (J. F. C. Fuller 1878-1966)

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                        • Originally posted by General Staff View Post
                          Yeah, me too. But I'm not sure everybody in the USA understands what being considered a pig in 1980s NYC really meant (remember Leona Helmsley?)- they just don't have creatures like that anywhere else in the universe outside of SF movies, and certainly not in the Mid-West.
                          You're wrong on two counts:

                          1) Leona Helmsley wasn't a pig: she was a bitch -- a totally different animal;

                          2) out in the hinterlands they have the fictional "Boss Hogg"



                          and the real life George Burham Parr of Duval Co, Texas



                          who threw not one, but two elections, Lyndon Johnson's way. Never underestimate an American's capacity for venality, either in our greatest cities, or our smallest hamlets.

                          Originally posted by General Staff View Post
                          What's gone so badly wrong that much of the USA would ever consider putting up as First Citizen one of NYC's worst ever denizens?
                          I'm guessing that his showing up of the NYC Parks Dept had more traction than I'd realized at the time.

                          And truth be known, that really was the high water mark of his entire career. It hasn't been that impactful since.

                          Originally posted by General Staff View Post
                          Part of the problem I think lies in the 1980s NYC universe, which is a lot simpler than that of most folks and looks like this looking west:



                          Even looking east the universe is still pretty simple:



                          But in the 90s, out in the wilds beyond the Hudson the Religious Right got involved in politics, and we were forced to look anew at the inhabitants of these strange places, if only to try to discern changing voting patterns (the last time we'd looked was when we watched 'City Slickers' and though it looked dangerous, Billy Crystal had eventually made it out OK):

                          Can't argue with a bit of it: it's all flyover country from here.

                          Originally posted by General Staff View Post
                          It all still baffles me why anybody- particularly women- would vote for such an odious creature as Trump.
                          For the same reason they vote for a Clinton: certain personalities are naturally magnetic, and when they're not charming ladies to cast their votes, they're charming ladies out of their panties. Yes, Trump is clearly a pig, and probably a sexual predator -- but within the realm of electoral politics, he's hardly unique, or even novel. An old salesman's mantra is "ABC: Always Be Closing." What more clear proof of a successful "close" can there be than a sexual tryst?

                          Originally posted by General Staff View Post
                          But I gotta say my knowledge of English dialects has improved tremendously, what with vicariously and virtually touring the country with Fox News. Why now I can even understand what everybody is talking about in a show like this.
                          That was as much a jibe at BET as it was at Fox. Since Britain's The Sun is just another News Corp outlet, there's no point comparing it to Fox News, but surely Germany, France, Russia, Japan, etc, etc, have their own native version of Fox News, ie jingoistic "yellow journalism." Why aren't we hearing more about them, as if News Corp's tactics were ever original.
                          I was married for two ******* years! Hell would be like Club Med! - Sam Kinison

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