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    Some of the photos of the guy wanted for killing five people in Burlington show him walking into the mall empty handed and then holding a long arm. Any explanations?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37462235
    Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
    Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)

  • #2
    From the footage it appears that he has something slung over his left shoulder.
    "Ask not what your country can do for you"

    Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

    you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
      From the footage it appears that he has something slung over his left shoulder.
      I didn't see that and still don't when looking again
      Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
      Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)

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      • #4
        In the top photo it's pretty clear he has what looks like a mini-14 (the barrel is poking up) on his right shoulder behind his back.

        In the next set you can see the sling across his chest in such a way it might be carried muzzle down to the left hip.

        If you look at the one where he's got the rifle out it clearly has a sling on it.

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        • #5
          Radar used to detect concealed weapons in public spaces

          I wonder why getting this isn't a priority?

          n electrical engineering professor at the University of Michigan believes that a type of radar, part developed by the Department of Defense, has the potential to be used as a means of detecting concealed weapons. Originally intended for military use, it is possible that the millimeter-wave radar system could be used to detect weapons across distances as large as a football field.Professor Kamal Sarabandi was watching the aftermath of the Newtown shooting in Connecticut when he was hit by the notion that his work for the military may have a use a little closer to home.

          The technology that he developed is currently being used in a number of applications, including collision avoidance systems in cars and in military targeting systems. The radar itself isn't particularly unique, but Sarabandi's pairing of the tech with Doppler radar signal processing allows it to pick out an individual in a crowd using a technique called polarimetry.

          Doppler radar has a range of applications from speed traps to predicting the weather, using the Doppler effect to measure the speed of a given object. Sarabandi used motion capture techniques to identify the reflected signals from the limbs and torso of a human walking, creating what he calls “the DNA of walking.”

          A computer is programmed to recognize the pattern, searching for a particular glare on the subjects chest, such that a hidden metal object might create. The technology focuses on the pedestrian's chest as it's both a common place that people hide weapons and acts as a fairly smooth backdrop, making it easier to pick out anomalies.

          The polarimetric radar used by the team works by sending out a signal at a particular polarization, and carefully analyzing the polarization of the signal that bounces back. An irregular metal object can change the polarization of the signal, allowing for the detection of concealed items.




          Though the technology has not yet undergone any human testing, Sarabandi's team has carried out a simulation using a mannequin painted with a coat that reflects radar-like human skin. The mannequin was placed on a turntable in an anechoic chamber, a room designed to absorb all echoes and reflections.

          The techniques could be used to scan large groups of people, with each subject taking less than a second to process. This would then allow security personnel to closely observe the individual in question or even take suspects aside for more comprehensive scans.

          The technology has significant potential to provide extra security in a wide range of applications, and while not entirely infallible, is significantly faster and less intrusive than the use of metal detectors.

          One point worth noting is that while the technology appears to provide a fairly accurate means of locating hidden metal objects, it might be less effective at spotting some of the 3D printed weapons that are becoming more and more of a security issue as the technology continues to develop.

          However, though the 3D printing of firearms is becoming more of a hot topic, it's currently only possible to print certain parts of the weapon, so there’ll still be some metal in there for detection.

          Check out the video below for more on Kamal Sarabandi's new detection technique.

          Source: University of Michigan

          http://newatlas.com/radar-pedestrian...tection/26788/

          Have some fast deploying barriers and it'd mitigate the issue...
          Credo quia absurdum.


          Quantum mechanics describes nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And yet it fully agrees with experiment. So I hope you can accept nature as She is - absurd! - Richard Feynman

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          • #6
            Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
            In the top photo it's pretty clear he has what looks like a mini-14 (the barrel is poking up) on his right shoulder behind his back.

            In the next set you can see the sling across his chest in such a way it might be carried muzzle down to the left hip.

            If you look at the one where he's got the rifle out it clearly has a sling on it.
            Thats contradictory
            Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
            Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Bwaha View Post
              I wonder why getting this isn't a priority?

              n electrical engineering professor at the University of Michigan believes that a type of radar, part developed by the Department of Defense, has the potential to be used as a means of detecting concealed weapons. Originally intended for military use, it is possible that the millimeter-wave radar system could be used to detect weapons across distances as large as a football field.Professor Kamal Sarabandi was watching the aftermath of the Newtown shooting in Connecticut when he was hit by the notion that his work for the military may have a use a little closer to home.

              The technology that he developed is currently being used in a number of applications, including collision avoidance systems in cars and in military targeting systems. The radar itself isn't particularly unique, but Sarabandi's pairing of the tech with Doppler radar signal processing allows it to pick out an individual in a crowd using a technique called polarimetry.

              Doppler radar has a range of applications from speed traps to predicting the weather, using the Doppler effect to measure the speed of a given object. Sarabandi used motion capture techniques to identify the reflected signals from the limbs and torso of a human walking, creating what he calls “the DNA of walking.”

              A computer is programmed to recognize the pattern, searching for a particular glare on the subjects chest, such that a hidden metal object might create. The technology focuses on the pedestrian's chest as it's both a common place that people hide weapons and acts as a fairly smooth backdrop, making it easier to pick out anomalies.

              The polarimetric radar used by the team works by sending out a signal at a particular polarization, and carefully analyzing the polarization of the signal that bounces back. An irregular metal object can change the polarization of the signal, allowing for the detection of concealed items.




              Though the technology has not yet undergone any human testing, Sarabandi's team has carried out a simulation using a mannequin painted with a coat that reflects radar-like human skin. The mannequin was placed on a turntable in an anechoic chamber, a room designed to absorb all echoes and reflections.

              The techniques could be used to scan large groups of people, with each subject taking less than a second to process. This would then allow security personnel to closely observe the individual in question or even take suspects aside for more comprehensive scans.

              The technology has significant potential to provide extra security in a wide range of applications, and while not entirely infallible, is significantly faster and less intrusive than the use of metal detectors.

              One point worth noting is that while the technology appears to provide a fairly accurate means of locating hidden metal objects, it might be less effective at spotting some of the 3D printed weapons that are becoming more and more of a security issue as the technology continues to develop.

              However, though the 3D printing of firearms is becoming more of a hot topic, it's currently only possible to print certain parts of the weapon, so there’ll still be some metal in there for detection.

              Check out the video below for more on Kamal Sarabandi's new detection technique.

              Source: University of Michigan

              http://newatlas.com/radar-pedestrian...tection/26788/

              Have some fast deploying barriers and it'd mitigate the issue...
              Hopefully such isn't hazardous to cell phones and other electronics, and likely could confuse those as weapons(?). Also hopefully not harmful to humans.

              In this case, Washington is an open carry and a conceal carry state, so not in all cases would detection of concealed pistol/weapon be law breaking.

              Considering he opened fire into the cosmetics section and hit mostly women, I'm guessing one of the victims might have been a (former) girlfriend of sorts. Leaving after the one burst suggests some one hit was the main target.

              BTW, this is close to home, literally. About 25-30 miles south down the freeway from where I live.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by MarkV View Post
                Thats contradictory
                Like the photos are really clear. I'm just commenting on what I can make out of those grainy shots.

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                • #9
                  Suspect in deadly Washington state mall shooting identified , in custody

                  Suspect in deadly Washington state mall shooting identified, in custody

                  http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/sus...4uY?li=BBnb7Kz

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                  • #10
                    Did you notice that the photos were taken at two different entrances? In what I call the second set it appear that he has a cased something pointing down on his right side.
                    "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                    Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                    you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                    • #11
                      Well, now that they have the shooter in custody, the odd part is he's from Turkey and the FBI says they don't think terrorism was a motive...

                      We've been hearing that line from them a lot lately, and they've been proved wrong each time.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                        Well, now that they have the shooter in custody, the odd part is he's from Turkey and the FBI says they don't think terrorism was a motive...

                        We've been hearing that line from them a lot lately, and they've been proved wrong each time.
                        This is a theme now. Before there has been time to collect evidence, there is a rush to state there is no evidence of terrorism. All it indicates really is that he didn't shout about Allah while pulling the trigger.

                        To be fair, it is probably because a journo asked if it was terror related and all they can say is there is no evidence.

                        Turkey, still nominally secular, is not the usual source of jihadis. In any case, what was he doing in the US rather than living in Turkey? Did you have a pressing need for his skills and experience?
                        Ne Obliviscaris, Sans Peur

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                          Well, now that they have the shooter in custody, the odd part is he's from Turkey and the FBI says they don't think terrorism was a motive...

                          We've been hearing that line from them a lot lately, and they've been proved wrong each time.
                          Looks like the authorities owe Hispanics an apology. They originally tagged the guy as Hispanic.

                          The gov't wants so badly for it not to be related to islam.
                          ALL LIVES SPLATTER!

                          BLACK JEEPS MATTER!

                          BLACK MOTORCYCLES MATTER!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Gixxer86g View Post
                            Looks like the authorities owe Hispanics an apology. They originally tagged the guy as Hispanic.

                            The gov't wants so badly for it not to be related to islam.
                            An you and TAG have gotten so brainwashed you cannot believe it isn't.

                            Which is worse?

                            Gov is going with innocent until proven guilty while you and TAG guilty because...
                            "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                            Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                            you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
                              An you and TAG have gotten so brainwashed you cannot believe it isn't.

                              Which is worse?

                              Gov is going with innocent until proven guilty while you and TAG guilty because...
                              No, gov't went with other until proven muslim, and even then deflect.

                              It's OK John, we know how much you Germans love the Turks.....
                              ALL LIVES SPLATTER!

                              BLACK JEEPS MATTER!

                              BLACK MOTORCYCLES MATTER!

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