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    Former ambassadors back Clinton in letter saying Trump ‘comforted our enemies’

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/ambassado...141636303.html


    The undersigned have each previously served the people of the United States as career diplomats in our nation’s Foreign and Civil Services. We have each had the privilege of being nominated by the President, and confirmed by the United States Senate, to represent our nation abroad and at the highest levels of our foreign policy and security organizations.


    Trump, they wrote, is “ignorant of the complex nature of the challenges facing our country, from Russia to China to ISIS to nuclear proliferation to refugees to drugs, but he has expressed no interest in being educated. In his frequent statements about foreign countries and their citizens, from our closest friends to our most problematic competitors, Mr. Trump has expressed the most ignorant stereotypes of those countries; has inflamed their people; and has insulted our allies and comforted our

    enemies.”


    Just as many members here do on a daily bases.
    "Ask not what your country can do for you"

    Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

    you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

  • #2
    More bureaucrats endorsing the Queen Mother of Bureaucracy = More reasons to vote for Trump.

    No doubt, 99.9% of bureaucrats support Her Hagness.

    As it pertains to national security, rather than bureaucrat security...
    The former secretary of state has been endorsed by 110 retired military officials, while Trump has been endorsed by 120. Clinton has also picked up public endorsements from dozens of former Republican politicians and national security experts, while privately, former President George H.W. Bush is reportedly voting for her.

    This POS article even cites a Facebook post of a mentally libt***ed Democrat. Just like the previous letter from former State Department bureaucrats, this one lacks the signature of one single former Republican Secretary of State, not even Colin Powell.

    Retired military officials:
    The Donald 120, Her Hagness 115

    In the meantime Bill Clinton’s former CIA Director joined Trump's campaign.
    Last edited by The Doctor; 23 Sep 16, 04:22.
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    • #3
      Trump comforted our enemies...

      Hillary ignored our enemies...

      Half dozen of one, six of the other...

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      • #4
        Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
        Trump comforted our enemies...

        Hillary ignored our enemies...

        Half dozen of one, six of the other...
        Not quite...Obama not only comforted and supported our enemies, but bowed to them and gave them billions of dollars, and both he and Hildebeast are Dumbo-o-crats.

        That's two-to-one favor of Trump.

        Political math is different.
        Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Who is watching the watchers?

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        • #5
          I was just talking about Hillary. She did nothing as Secretary of State except go on vacation... Benghazi is a direct example of the ignored our enemies. Hell, in that one she ignored her own people...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
            I was just talking about Hillary. She did nothing as Secretary of State except go on vacation... Benghazi is a direct example of the ignored our enemies. Hell, in that one she ignored her own people...
            I wonder if she ignored his pleas for security because he knew too much about the arms shipments to Syria... Remember the howls over the Iran arms deal? This one was even worse, we outfitted the rebels who turned into isis. How come the media ignored that fiasco???
            Credo quia absurdum.


            Quantum mechanics describes nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And yet it fully agrees with experiment. So I hope you can accept nature as She is - absurd! - Richard Feynman

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            • #7
              Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
              I was just talking about Hillary. She did nothing as Secretary of State except go on vacation... Benghazi is a direct example of the ignored our enemies. Hell, in that one she ignored her own people...
              I wonder if all those Ambassadors know more about Benghazi than you?

              Na, I don't wonder.
              "Ask not what your country can do for you"

              Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

              you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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              • #8
                https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.334d2046ea92

                Donald Trump’s most excellent tips for moderating a fair debate


                1) Be a moderator, not a fact-checker.
                "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
                  https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.334d2046ea92

                  Donald Trump’s most excellent tips for moderating a fair debate


                  1) Be a moderator, not a fact-checker.
                  A moderator is, by definition, not a fact-checker.
                  A discussion moderator or debate moderator is a person whose role is to act as a neutral participant in a debate or discussion, holds participants to time limits and trying to keep them from straying off the topic of the questions being raised in the debate. Sometimes moderators may ask questions intended to allow the debate participants to fully develop their argument in order to ensure the debate moves at pace.

                  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_moderator

                  A moderator who interjects their opinions about facts, ceases to be a moderator, and becomes a participant in the debate
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by The Doctor View Post
                    A moderator is, by definition, not a fact-checker.
                    A discussion moderator or debate moderator is a person whose role is to act as a neutral participant in a debate or discussion, holds participants to time limits and trying to keep them from straying off the topic of the questions being raised in the debate. Sometimes moderators may ask questions intended to allow the debate participants to fully develop their argument in order to ensure the debate moves at pace.

                    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_moderator

                    A moderator who interjects their opinions about facts, ceases to be a moderator, and becomes a participant in the debate


                    Exactly. If it is an interview, then the reporter should challenge the person, but not at a debate.
                    In an interview the reporter has a clear agenda, that is to obtain the story. That is different from the role of the moderator.
                    When the moderator injects himself (or herself like candy crowley) we end up with the moderator's biases affecting the debate. (especially since crowley was wrong)
                    Given that most reporters really don't know what they are talking about, they shouldn't be fact checking on the fly.

                    For example, we all have areas of expertise and have all likely heard reporters spout nonsense on topics within our areas of expertise. Too often we forget about that ignorance when the reporter speaks to us on topics that we know little about.
                    As a result, we shouldn't trust the reporter's "on the fly" fact checking.
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                    • #11
                      The purpose of a debate isn't to test the Google fu of the moderator. It's to show the mettle of the principals. If the moderator injects themselves outside of asking the topical questions and counting time, then they do the debate a disservice.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Half Pint John View Post
                        I wonder if all those Ambassadors know more about Benghazi than you?

                        Na, I don't wonder.
                        Nah... Ambassadors are political appointees of the President. Frequently they are big donors to the party in office. They don't have to be particularly knowledgeable about squat.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
                          Nah... Ambassadors are political appointees of the President. Frequently they are big donors to the party in office. They don't have to be particularly knowledgeable about squat.
                          This is especially true for the Maobama Maladministration...
                          More Ambassador Posts Are Going To Political Appointees

                          February 13, 2014

                          The nominee to be U.S. ambassador to, say, Hungary should be able to explain what the U.S. strategic interests are in that country — right?

                          But Colleen Bell, a soap opera producer and President Obama's appointee to be U.S. envoy to that European country, struggled to answer that simple question during her recent confirmation hearing.

                          "Well, we have our strategic interests, in terms of what are our key priorities in Hungary, I think our key priorities are to improve upon, as I mentioned, the security relationship and also the law enforcement and to promote business opportunities, increase trade ..." she responded, grasping for words...

                          [...]

                          President Obama used to say that he wanted to rely more on career diplomats to serve as U.S. ambassadors. But the State Department's professional association, the American Foreign Service Association or AFSA, says that he has named a higher percentage of political appointees than his predecessors. He's given plum assignments to political donors such as Bell, who have made headlines recently with embarrassing gaffes at their confirmation hearings.

                          [...]

                          http://www.npr.org/2014/02/12/275897...cal-appointees
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                          • #14
                            You should peruse the list in the OP article. Almost all of those on it were minor ambassadors to countries most people couldn't find on a map... Montenegro? Micronesia?

                            These are typically political appointees in any administration.

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