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  • Originally posted by Delenda estRoma View Post
    It means a threat that doesn't threaten our existence, terrorism isn't able to threaten our existence. It can cause a few casualties and cause mass fear and hysteria. Hardly a reason to scrap the Constitution. Before overreacting, perhaps a quick Google search?

    Ask the poster who advocated eliminating Islam as a religion and taking away their Constituents religious rights.

    Again, in reference to the poster who wishes for us to legally outlaw one specific religion.
    Political correctness and creeping cultural Marxism are existential threats. In this case that threat is represented by those who label people critical of Islam as racist. Muslim's do not constitute a racial group but Islam is as much a political ideology as religious. The so called liberal Muslims and not so elite intellectual elite simple refuse to acknowledge this fact because it interferes with their Europeans are to blame for everything narrative.

    The hypocrisy of the left is made evident by how enthusiastic they are to denigrate non progressive Christians and how racist they are when holding Caucasians responsible for the poor state of Muslim countries.

    If we limit ourselves to just the Muslim countries of the middle east and India the historical narrative of the left is laughable in blaming Europeans for the problems. Here are the inconvenient truths you will likely never hear from "liberals".

    Even while Mohammed was alive Islam was politicized and militarized.

    Islamic slaving and raids terrorized Europe for centuries before the crusades.

    Although popularized as a religious movement the crusades should be seen as a reaction to the real threat of Muslim invasion of all of Europe.

    The real destroyers of the traditional Muslim countries was first the Mongols and the Turks. European involvement in the middle east was comparatively benign. The collapse of the Turkish empire following WWI is the reason most Arab nations exit making the negative impact of Western Europe somewhat irrelevant.

    Muslims engaged in a brutal black African slave trade long before Europeans got involved. This established the network of black African kings that would later make large scale European slave trading possible. Without this network the death rate of Europeans in Africa would have made slaving impossible.

    Muslims are perhaps responsible for the largest genocide in history. The wholesale slaughter of Hindus is oddly missing from European history classes. One can only assume that liberals are so racist that they can't concern themselves with brown people killing brown people.

    If you were to pick the worst religion out of the long list of candidates Islam seems a good choice.
    We hunt the hunters

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    • Originally posted by Delenda estRoma View Post
      Either quote the post or retract your statement.
      Everyone understanding your posts knows what you're getting at.

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      • Originally posted by Delenda estRoma View Post
        Indeed I can. At the current moment Islamic terrorism in the US is not an existential threat. Feel free to argue otherwise, but no evidence exists that points to the impending doom of our country because of Islamic terrorism.
        You are making a prediction based on your beliefs. There is no way you can guarantee anything.

        You're just throwing nonsense about, as usual.
        Again, who here wants to persecute people due to their religion only? Put up or shut up.
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        • Originally posted by johns624 View Post
          That's not the problem. The problem is grouping all Muslims together.
          Really?

          Do you also think that Democrats grouping law-abiding Gun Owners together with homicidal maniacs might also be a problem?

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          • Originally posted by VinceW View Post
            Everyone understanding your posts knows what you're getting at.
            And there we have it. No proof whatsoever, just baseless accusations.
            First Counsul Maleketh of Jonov

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            • Originally posted by Gixxer86g View Post
              The apologists are out in force today!

              It's a war, and islam needs to be temporarily stripped of it's status as a religion.

              Americans in general shouldn't live in fear, the muslim population should. If you're a muslim in America, you should be scrutinized. Don't like it, too f***in' bad. Do something about the extremists among you.

              I can't wait to read the excuses as to why these attacks happened. Will they be as creative as Orlando?

              And why are some discussing the Irish or Italians of a hundred years ago? Please people, keep your eye on the ball. That BS doesn't fly.
              Here you go Sal, I don't expect an apology and of course I know I won't get one.
              First Counsul Maleketh of Jonov

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              • Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
                Political correctness and creeping cultural Marxism are existential threats. In this case that threat is represented by those who label people critical of Islam as racist.
                Tell that to the people who label those who are critical of Israel as anti semitic. This political correctness is found on all sides unfortunately. Personally, when I'm being critical of Israel my criticism is only directed towards those responsible for how that country is being run. It is not an attack against all Jews. The same respect and common sense needs to be applied when discussing Islam and Muslims as well. We can be as critical as we like about radical-Islam, but again those same criticisms shouldn't apply to all Muslims as obviously there are plenty who practice their faith peacefully.

                The people that want to make blanket statements about Islam are typically the ones who look at their growth, their culture and fear it spreading and disrupting their power.

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                • Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
                  Political correctness and creeping cultural Marxism are existential threats. In this case that threat is represented by those who label people critical of Islam as racist. Muslim's do not constitute a racial group but Islam is as much a political ideology as religious. The so called liberal Muslims and not so elite intellectual elite simple refuse to acknowledge this fact because it interferes with their Europeans are to blame for everything narrative.

                  The hypocrisy of the left is made evident by how enthusiastic they are to denigrate non progressive Christians and how racist they are when holding Caucasians responsible for the poor state of Muslim countries.

                  If we limit ourselves to just the Muslim countries of the middle east and India the historical narrative of the left is laughable in blaming Europeans for the problems. Here are the inconvenient truths you will likely never hear from "liberals".

                  Even while Mohammed was alive Islam was politicized and militarized.

                  Islamic slaving and raids terrorized Europe for centuries before the crusades.

                  Although popularized as a religious movement the crusades should be seen as a reaction to the real threat of Muslim invasion of all of Europe.

                  The real destroyers of the traditional Muslim countries was first the Mongols and the Turks. European involvement in the middle east was comparatively benign. The collapse of the Turkish empire following WWI is the reason most Arab nations exit making the negative impact of Western Europe somewhat irrelevant.

                  Muslims engaged in a brutal black African slave trade long before Europeans got involved. This established the network of black African kings that would later make large scale European slave trading possible. Without this network the death rate of Europeans in Africa would have made slaving impossible.

                  Muslims are perhaps responsible for the largest genocide in history. The wholesale slaughter of Hindus is oddly missing from European history classes. One can only assume that liberals are so racist that they can't concern themselves with brown people killing brown people.

                  If you were to pick the worst religion out of the long list of candidates Islam seems a good choice.
                  You're pretty far down the rabbit hole here. Almost all of your post is a tangent instead of a reply to what you quoted.
                  First Counsul Maleketh of Jonov

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                  • Originally posted by ljadw View Post
                    No one said they were .Only in your imagination .
                    Oh the irony!
                    You dare everything.
                    That rug really tied the room together

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                    • Originally posted by sebfrench76 View Post
                      Oh the irony!
                      You dare everything.
                      No one here seems to grasp what irony is
                      First Counsul Maleketh of Jonov

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                      • Originally posted by Escape2Victory View Post

                        The same moral responsibility sits with you Seb. You are perhaps the strongest supporter of Muslim world immigration, the most dismissive of the risks and the most judgemental of those who raise them. It's a position you have a right to take but you can't then walk away from the moral responsibility when it goes wrong and people start getting killed.

                        I call on you to publically apologise for just how badly you called it and the risks you have helped create. .
                        You are living in a parallel world where you're in a desperate need of culprits for the mess we're experiencing currently.
                        Let's sum it up : According to you ,I am the one ,beside my great aunt Angela ,who has open the gates of Europe to the blood thirsty migrants.
                        Plus , I am an ostrich that calls the brave and gallant "plots seekers" ,paranoids.
                        Let's add to that list that because of me ,people will get killed .

                        But regarding to a "public apologize" ,you'd better take a comfortable chair cause I won't obey to a guy who has little friends in his head.
                        That rug really tied the room together

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                        • Originally posted by johns624 View Post
                          How about all the secular Muslims?
                          There are NO secular Muslims,you should know it.
                          That rug really tied the room together

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                          • Originally posted by sebfrench76 View Post
                            There are NO secular Muslims doing anything to thwart Muslim Terrorism in the West ,you should know it.
                            There, fixed it for you.

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                            • Originally posted by Salinator View Post
                              You are making a prediction based on your beliefs. There is no way you can guarantee anything.

                              Again, who here wants to persecute people due to their religion only? Put up or shut up.
                              Are you saying that Islamist terrorism or ideology is a threat to the very existence of American society or the continuation of your nation state?
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                              • Originally posted by Sergio View Post
                                Are you saying that Islamist terrorism or ideology is a threat to the very existence of American society or the continuation of your nation state?
                                No I did not. Don't put words into my mouth to make a strawman.

                                Don't bother. I won't reply to your strawman trolls. Good bye
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