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  • Bwaha
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    As I see it, until they have a reformation that outlaws enslavement, rape and murder things are going to problematical with the rest of the civilized world.

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  • VinceW
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    Originally posted by johns624 View Post
    That's not the problem. The problem is grouping all Muslims together.
    Since the radical ones mix in with the rest the peaceful ones do little to report on them they need to be treated with extra caution not to the interning Japanese level but still more prejudical until things ever calm down.

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  • johns624
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    Originally posted by VinceW View Post
    Aggressively going after violent Muslims isn't wrong blindly following a countries Constitution isn't possible and is foolish when fighting an enemy external or internal ones it's not strength to do so when fighting a war like for example to keep bringing in immigrants from the enemies country or countries.
    That's not the problem. The problem is grouping all Muslims together.

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Originally posted by Delenda estRoma View Post
    The United States has been persecuting all sorts of things since its foundation, but we've come a long way. I'm not willing to throw away that progress so some radical insane Christians can persecute Muslims.
    I'm not a Christian, but I do think that radical Islamic terrorism and warfare is a sufficient problem we should ban most or all immigration from parts of the world and nations where that sort of thing is rampant. For example, we shouldn't be taking Syrian refugees. That's akin to taking say, Italian or Hungarian refugees during WW 2.
    Why risk having some terrorists in the mix?

    Besides, why is the US's responsibility to take refugees from a civil war in another nation? We have zero reason to be doing that. It's sort of saying "Gee, there's a war in your country so we'll let you come here and become a citizen of our country..." rather than "Gee, there's a war in your country. Maybe you should get involved and end that puppy and get a stable, decent government..."

    Muslims have nothing special coming just because their own house is a total $h!+ hole made in large part by the same refugees wanting to leave.

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  • VinceW
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    Originally posted by Delenda estRoma View Post
    The United States has been persecuting all sorts of things since its foundation, but we've come a long way. I'm not willing to throw away that progress so some radical insane Christians can persecute Muslims.
    Aggressively going after violent Muslims isn't wrong blindly following a countries Constitution isn't possible and is foolish when fighting an enemy external or internal ones it's not strength to do so when fighting a war like for example to keep bringing in immigrants from the enemies country or countries.

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Originally posted by ChrisF1987 View Post
    I know, right? My personal favorite is when supposed "conservatives" defend beating up protesters at Trump rallies but then turn around bash "safe spaces" on college campuses. Or when "conservatives" claim to support free speech but then bash Kaepernick for merely having a different opinion.
    The two aren't compatible examples. Beating up protesters is wrong no matter the politics, but "safe spaces" on college campuses are more about individual's supposed right to be able to have their personal space free of all competing or opposing ideas, commentary, and thought.


    Hey, if I had my way government would be completely secular. No "Religious Right" bible thumpers. Religion should not dictate policy and that goes for the Koran same as the Bible.
    Yes, the government should be secular. Question... Would you extend that policy to cover Atheists?

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  • Bwaha
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    Originally posted by Gixxer86g View Post
    The apologists are out in force today!

    It's a war, and islam needs to be temporarily stripped of it's status as a religion.

    Americans in general shouldn't live in fear, the muslim population should. If you're a muslim in America, you should be scrutinized. Don't like it, too f***in' bad. Do something about the extremists among you.

    I can't wait to read the excuses as to why these attacks happened. Will they be as creative as Orlando?

    And why are some discussing the Irish or Italians of a hundred years ago? Please people, keep your eye on the ball. That BS doesn't fly.
    They are just trying to derail and distract. Same old, same old.

    Our problem is a religion tells its followers that its a good thing to commit murder. If the Aztec religion was started again would they say 'its okay that they want cut peoples heart out?' All religions aren't equal, some are pretty awful. And if they teach that causing harm to others is a good thing should they be treated the same as one that that preaches peaceful and lawful behavior???

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  • ChrisF1987
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    Originally posted by Delenda estRoma View Post
    Lol, the Constitution is so sacred when the second amendment is at stake, but freedom of religion? Let's violate it to persecute anyone but Christians! This hypocrisy simply floors me. You hold one amendment sacred and spew all sorts of hate at everyone for it, but you casually demand we destroy the first amendment. Unbelievable that a human mind can be that irrational.
    I know, right? My personal favorite is when supposed "conservatives" defend beating up protesters at Trump rallies but then turn around bash "safe spaces" on college campuses. Or when "conservatives" claim to support free speech but then bash Kaepernick for merely having a different opinion.

    Originally posted by Pruitt View Post
    The United States has been persecuting religions since colonial times. One is guaranteed freedom of religion, but not respect of the chosen religion. Also a factor is all the cults that have popped up over the years. Religions should be taken on an individual basis. Even freedom from religion.

    Pruitt
    Hey, if I had my way government would be completely secular. No "Religious Right" bible thumpers. Religion should not dictate policy and that goes for the Koran same as the Bible.

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  • Delenda estRoma
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    Originally posted by Pruitt View Post
    The United States has been persecuting religions since colonial times. One is guaranteed freedom of religion, but not respect of the chosen religion. Also a factor is all the cults that have popped up over the years. Religions should be taken on an individual basis. Even freedom from religion.

    Pruitt
    The United States has been persecuting all sorts of things since its foundation, but we've come a long way. I'm not willing to throw away that progress so some radical insane Christians can persecute Muslims.

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  • Pruitt
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    The United States has been persecuting religions since colonial times. One is guaranteed freedom of religion, but not respect of the chosen religion. Also a factor is all the cults that have popped up over the years. Religions should be taken on an individual basis. Even freedom from religion.

    Pruitt

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  • Delenda estRoma
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    Originally posted by Gixxer86g View Post
    The apologists are out in force today!

    It's a war, and islam needs to be temporarily stripped of it's status as a religion.

    Americans in general shouldn't live in fear, the muslim population should. If you're a muslim in America, you should be scrutinized. Don't like it, too f***in' bad. Do something about the extremists among you.

    I can't wait to read the excuses as to why these attacks happened. Will they be as creative as Orlando?

    And why are some discussing the Irish or Italians of a hundred years ago? Please people, keep your eye on the ball. That BS doesn't fly.
    Lol, the Constitution is so sacred when the second amendment is at stake, but freedom of religion? Let's violate it to persecute anyone but Christians! This hypocrisy simply floors me. You hold one amendment sacred and spew all sorts of hate at everyone for it, but you casually demand we destroy the first amendment. Unbelievable that a human mind can be that irrational.

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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Originally posted by Stonewall_Jack View Post
    Firstly, I have a difficult time measuring what you mean by left or right. As I do not believe their is a left or right. For those who do use terms like the left or the right...not everyone has the same view on what constitutes the left or the right.
    Well, when you do figure it out get back to me...

    I believe Bin laden received a college degree, as did the leader of ISIL.. But who else ?...and what does this matter?
    We could start with almost all of the 9/11 terrorists either having one or in college getting one...
    Most, if not all of the lieutenants of Bin Laden. Most of the senior ISIS leadership...

    Why does this matter? Because after exposure to very Progressive and Leftist professors for years, they had an effect / affect on those people. They shaped some of their ideas and reasons for deciding to attack the West. After all, those same professors generally and vehemently attack Western culture and values.
    When you are a student bombarded by that sort of thing, immersed in a culture that argues the West is a decadent, corrupt, and immoral culture when you combine that with very conservative Islam and those same professors saying Islam (and other non-Western values systems) are under attack, you get people that begin to think... "Maybe that guy's right. I should commit jihad as the Quran tells me to and defend my religion!" Next thing you know is you have a new terrorist.


    As we know the Third Reich...which was far more powerful and perhaps just as bad as ISIL.. had college educated folks, and folks who dropped out of High school.
    And were just as disaffected and propagandized by mentors that turned them into radicals. Hitler and his followers didn't wake up one morning and decide "Hey, let's become radicals and overthrow the German government!"

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  • Gixxer86g
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    The apologists are out in force today!

    It's a war, and islam needs to be temporarily stripped of it's status as a religion.

    Americans in general shouldn't live in fear, the muslim population should. If you're a muslim in America, you should be scrutinized. Don't like it, too f***in' bad. Do something about the extremists among you.

    I can't wait to read the excuses as to why these attacks happened. Will they be as creative as Orlando?

    And why are some discussing the Irish or Italians of a hundred years ago? Please people, keep your eye on the ball. That BS doesn't fly.

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  • Stonewall_Jack
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    Originally posted by T. A. Gardner View Post
    Actually, if you look at the backgrounds of the leadership and upper echelon of these Islamic terrorist groups, they resemble other Leftist terrorist groups in composition.
    That is, the leadership and most important "soldiers" in these groups are typically college educated (almost always at Leftist leaning Western universities) and have middle or upper middle class backgrounds.
    They aren't "losers" and they do represent a big segment of the population they come from. What they don't have in common with them is they have been fed a continuous line of propaganda that they've come to believe that the only way they can effect change and bring people to their views is through violence. These are disaffected young men who feel and see a world where they are not fitting in and have no chance to change through the existing conduits of society. So, they lash out with violence trying to change the system.

    Islam is the excuse for Muslims. Communism / Socialism was the excuse for the Red Brigades, Students for a Democratic Society (to include the Weathermen and Obama's neighbor and buddy William Ayres and his wife Bernadette Dorn), etc. They're all educated, disaffected reasonably well off members of society. And, they are all Terrorists.
    Firstly, I have a difficult time measuring what you mean by left or right. As I do not believe their is a left or right. For those who do use terms like the left or the right...not everyone has the same view on what constitutes the left or the right.

    I believe Bin laden received a college degree, as did the leader of ISIL.. But who else ?...and what does this matter?

    As we know the Third Reich...which was far more powerful and perhaps just as bad as ISIL.. had college educated folks, and folks who dropped out of High school.

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  • johns624
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    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Yes; however, they are also required by law to place the American government before their religion, and this they do NOT do. That means they do not assimilate and become true Americans, and that is unacceptable.

    How about all the secular Muslims?

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