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    Things seem to be getting worse and worse for Trump every day. There are now reports that Paul Manafort himself is pissed with Trump. RNC Chairman Reince Priebus is infuriated that Trump refused to back Paul Ryan. And now there are reports that the RNC itself is looking into a process of what might happen if Trump drops out or becomes so unhinged he needs to be removed from the ballot.

    http://nypost.com/2016/08/03/trump-g...-insiders-say/
    “I did not think he’d be great in a general election, and thought there’d be episodes of paranoia/irrationality, but this is surprising for me,” one Trump operative told The Post.

    “Trump is getting nuttier and nuttier,” the person added.
    http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/02/ally-...ing-it-in.html
    I exchanged messages Tuesday evening with a longtime ally of Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort, whom I asked about who was calling the shots in the campaign. The response indicated that Manafort, a veteran of Republican politics brought in this spring for the transition from primaries to the general election, has lost control over his candidate.

    "Manafort not challenging (Trump) anymore," Manafort's ally wrote. "Mailing it in. Staff suicidal."
    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/senio...ry?id=41089609
    Republican officials are exploring how to handle a scenario that would be unthinkable in a normal election year: What would happen if the party's presidential nominee dropped out?

    ABC News has learned that senior party officials are so frustrated — and confused — by Donald Trump's erratic behavior that they are exploring how to replace him on the ballot if he drops out.
    Trump's campaign went from cruising in the polls to imploding in less than a week. Once again the Stupid Party has snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Enjoy 8 years of Hillary Rotten Clinton. This would not have happened with Cruz, Rubio, Bush, Walker, Perry, or any of the other candidates. Any one of them could have annihilated Hillary.

  • #2
    Originally posted by ChrisF1987 View Post
    This would not have happened with Cruz, Rubio, Bush, Walker, Perry, or any of the other candidates. Any one of them could have annihilated Hillary.
    I admire your optimism. Some of these candidates didn't win the republican nomination for a reason.

    On the other hand, suddenly Dan Quayle looks a whole lot better...

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    • #3
      Even Palin is starting to look better than Dump.

      Was that something positive for Palin? You misunderstood me.
      "Ask not what your country can do for you"

      Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

      you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by ChrisF1987 View Post
        Things seem to be getting worse and worse for Trump every day. There are now reports that Paul Manafort himself is pissed with Trump. RNC Chairman Reince Priebus is infuriated that Trump refused to back Paul Ryan. And now there are reports that the RNC itself is looking into a process of what might happen if Trump drops out or becomes so unhinged he needs to be removed from the ballot.

        http://nypost.com/2016/08/03/trump-g...-insiders-say/

        http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/02/ally-...ing-it-in.html

        http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/senio...ry?id=41089609


        Trump's campaign went from cruising in the polls to imploding in less than a week. Once again the Stupid Party has snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Enjoy 8 years of Hillary Rotten Clinton. This would not have happened with Cruz, Rubio, Bush, Walker, Perry, or any of the other candidates. Any one of them could have annihilated Hillary.


        It's great to see the criminal supporters squirm.
        My worst jump story:
        My 13th jump was on the 13th day of the month, aircraft number 013.
        As recorded on my DA Form 1307 Individual Jump Log.
        No lie.

        ~
        "Everything looks all right. Have a good jump, eh."
        -2 Commando Jumpmaster

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        • #5
          Time to add another Republican defector jumping ship this November.

          Influential GOP donor and Hewlett-Packard executive Meg Whitman is planning to endorse Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump, calling the mercurial Republican candidate a person who has "exploited anger, grievance, xenophobia and racial division.”
          http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...bmj?li=BBnb7Kz
          "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
          - Benjamin Franklin

          The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ChrisF1987 View Post
            This would not have happened with Cruz, Rubio, Bush, Walker, Perry, or any of the other candidates. Any one of them could have annihilated Hillary.
            I'm not sure anyone in the Republican party would have "annihilated" Hillary, because she's got so much support from minorities and women.

            However, your point only begs the question that I was trying to (honestly) raise in another thread.

            How did Trump become the nominee? What made him seem so attractive to mainstream Republicans? Or, better yet, if "mainstream" Republicans/conservatives voted him in, then what does that say about mainstream Republicans/Conservatives? Wouldn't you agree that there are indications that the Republican Party is getting seriously radicalized?
            "I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. I just kiss. I don't even wait. You can do anything... Grab them by the [redacted]. You can do anything."
            -The President of the United States of America.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by armor11 View Post
              I'm not sure anyone in the Republican party would have "annihilated" Hillary, because she's got so much support from minorities and women.

              However, your point only begs the question that I was trying to (honestly) raise in another thread.

              How did Trump become the nominee? What made him seem so attractive to mainstream Republicans? Or, better yet, if "mainstream" Republicans/conservatives voted him in, then what does that say about mainstream Republicans/Conservatives? Wouldn't you agree that there are indications that the Republican Party is getting seriously radicalized?
              The problem with this past GOP primary is that there were so many mainstream candidates (Bush, Rubio, Kasich, Walker, Perry, Christie, Pataki, etc) that the field was so divided that Trump's core support was enough to put him over the edge despite the fact that he only won about 45% of the overall vote.

              Secondly, the increasing extremism within the party over the past decade on immigration and social issues has pushed many more moderate members out of the party. Add in the party becoming increasingly anti-intellectual and you have a large portion of the base who are easily riled up into thinking "the Brown peoples gonna take over!!! BUILD A WALLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" hysteria that got so many people attracted to Trump when he made his entry with that speech about Mexican rapists and criminals. Many of Trump's more hardcore supporters don't seem to grasp that you cannot win presidential elections with just angry old White people anymore.

              However, if there were only 1 or 2 "Establishment RINO cucks" they could have come out on top of Trump. Now it would not guarantee beating Hillary but they would have had much better odds. I will be convinced until my dying day that Rubio could have beaten Hillary if only Bush, Kasich, etc were not in his way.

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              • #8
                Rubio carried to much of his Bible with him. Kasich I could have voted for. Neither of the present two am I wasting a stamp on.
                "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by 101combatvet View Post


                  It's great to see the criminal supporters squirm.
                  Or falling asleep.
                  "Ask not what your country can do for you"

                  Left wing, Right Wing same bird that they are killing.

                  you’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

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                  • #10
                    If people are stupid enough to believe that Trump is a racist they deserve Hillary.

                    Considering how many immigrants are raped and how little the left talks about it Trump could be the pro-illegal candidate.

                    If Hillary is the candidate of "intellectuals" then they must all be suffering from amnesia. Here is a short list of incompetent action are intellectual candidate engaged in.

                    Health care reform she headed up for her husband.

                    Selecting a female Attorney General for her husband the first two were forced to resign and Bill called Reno his biggest mistake.

                    Hillary's next screwup was a head of the civil rights commission that had to resign.

                    To save time we will just combine her next three incompetent recommendation. She chose former law partners Web Hubbel for the Justice Department, Vince Foster for the White House staff, and William Kennedy for the justice department. Hubbel went to prison, Foster committed suicide, and Kennedy was forced to resign.

                    Then of course we have travelgate. This time she not only managed to embarrass her husband she ruined the lives of the former staff so she could employ a few friends.

                    Of course it's not always good to be friends with Hillary. Craig Livingstone was a close friend who she recommended for the position of Director of White House security. When Livingstone was investigated for the improper access of about 900 FBI files of Clinton enemies and the widespread use of drugs by White House staff. Hillary denied ever knowing him.

                    Hillary seems to have memory problems similar to her supporters. To avoided indictment for perjury and obstruction of justice during the Starr investigation she repeated, "I do not recall," "I have no recollection," and "I don't know" a total of 56 times while under oath.

                    I could go on but the list is very long.
                    We hunt the hunters

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                    • #11
                      Is it possible, in 2016, to praise operation wetback while still holding Mexican's in high regard?
                      "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
                      - Benjamin Franklin

                      The new right wing: hate Muslims, preaches tolerance for Nazis.

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                      • #12
                        Wolfhnd,
                        This collapse is the result of Trumps reactions to political attacks that are bound to occur in any campaign.
                        Few of the respondants to the Op are pro Clinton, God knows I'm not.
                        But Trump is not giving even the most anti Clinton voter any reason to place much faith in his ability to sit as president.
                        Not being Hillary is what got him this far, through the primaries. He now has to convince people other than those who would never vote democrat or for Hillary,
                        He is failing miserably. It just seems that he is purposely derailing his campaign.
                        Last edited by Urban hermit; 03 Aug 16, 19:29.
                        Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
                        Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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                        • #13
                          Trump is behaving...like himself. Most of his hardcore supporters know he is crass and blunt. This is no surprise.

                          Trump has already moved onto another issue to entertain the mainstream networks. By not endorsing Ryan or McCain, Trump is only proving to his supporters that he's not an establishment guy. He's not falling in line just because....

                          There's still a long way to go before the election, there will be more drama coming. This is only the beginning.
                          "Stand for the flag ~ Kneel for the fallen"

                          "A wise man can learn more from a foolish question than a fool can learn from a wise answer." ~ Bruce Lee

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                          • #14
                            This could be why Trump is acting distracted, reliving past glories in his primary campaign, and acting like a major jackass.

                            http://m.dailykos.com/story/2016/8/2...niversity-Suit

                            Mr. Trump will have to go to trial shortly after the election. His Company is being sued and he is also being sued personally. The personal suit has the potential to wipe him out financially.
                            It is the Cohen suit that has caused Trump to flip his not inconsiderable wig . Trump probably cares more about the Cohen suit more than he cares about the election because it has the potential of wiping him out, at least of his cash. If, for example, all of the members of the Cohen class paid $50 million in tuition (I am making up that number by way of illustration), then Trump potentially has to fork over $150 million plus pre-judgment interest. A Trump loss — racketeering and fraud — would also be devastating to the Trump brand. This is going to be a major distraction for him in the campaign’s final months, and may already be a reason he is acting out.

                            In cases like this, generally if a defendant loses at the class certification stage (Trump lost this some time ago) and loses his motion to dismiss (ditto, this happened some time ago), plaintiffs are really in business and defendants are in deep water (I cleaned that up). But a loss at the later summary judgment stage is yet more devastating to a defendant, because a summary judgment motion brought by defendants is evidence-based and tests the sufficiency of not only the plaintiffs’ class’s theories but of its evidence. That is where Donald Trump stands as of tonight.
                            Homo homini lupus

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                            • #15
                              Along with the Trump University court case, the Trump Taj Mahal Casino in Atlantic City is going to close after Labour Day. Now Tump no longer owns the business. Still having to witness the failure of one of his creations is really going to hurt his already fragile ego. I fully expect more outburst and tweets. All the recent talk about 'resets' and 'interventions' is bull.

                              Trump is Trump. Nobody tells him what to say.
                              ´
                              “You need to help people. I know it's not very Republican to say but you need to help people.” DONALD TRUMP, 2016

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