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  • T. A. Gardner
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    Originally posted by III Corps View Post
    Make that a driverless Harry Potter DVD...
    Hey, it could happen...

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  • III Corps
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    Originally posted by Daemon of Decay View Post
    ...Maybe we can change the title of the thread to "Harry Potter DVD Kills First Victim"?...
    Make that a driverless Harry Potter DVD...

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  • Tuebor
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    Originally posted by PhilipLaos View Post
    Two things that seem to be imminent that I cannot see working well:

    1. Roads filled with driverless cars

    2. The skies filled with autonomous drones delivering pizzas and other stuff.

    But they do seem to be imminent.


    Philip
    If I don't have to tip the drone, then No. 2 is good with me.

    Tuebor

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  • johns624
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    One pilot is allowed to take catnaps at a time.

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  • The Doctor
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    Originally posted by At ease View Post
    Really?



    You might need to catch up on your reading.




    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-24296544
    He probably should have said that pilots aren't allowed to sleep while at the controls. So, pilots who follow the rules don't sleep at the controls...

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  • At ease
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    Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
    Pilots do not sleep at the controls
    [.....]
    Really?



    You might need to catch up on your reading.

    'More than half' of pilots have slept while flying

    27 September 2013

    More than half of pilots have fallen asleep while in charge of a plane, a survey by a pilots' union suggests.

    Of the 56% who admitted sleeping, 29% told Balpa* that they had woken up to find the other pilot asleep as well.

    [.....]
    * British Airline Pilots Association.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-24296544
    Last edited by At ease; 04 Jul 16, 07:35.

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  • Gixxer86g
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    Originally posted by The Doctor View Post
    The problem with more education is...



    Ha!

    Well, for me that means no license for you! Unfortunately, PC takes over and these idiots rule the roads.

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  • The Doctor
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    Originally posted by Gixxer86g View Post
    Sadly, this is the truth. There's a simple solution, increased education. It's way too easy to get a drivers license here in the US. Especially in NJ.

    What's that? You're a 45 yr old woman who was never allowed to drive, or leave the house without a male family member? Here's your license!

    I suggest we follow Finland's example on driver education.
    The problem with more education is...



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  • The Doctor
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    Originally posted by MarkV View Post
    Possibly there is a place for the autopilot as a supplement to rather than a replacement for the human driver. They could be set to override stupid. dangerous and/or illegal manoeuvres.
    Similar features are currently available in some vehicles; but they are rather expensive options.

    A strong economic argument could probably be made that such features would actually save money in the long run and they would save lives. Most government mandates designed to save lives don't save money too. This might be a rare regulatory win-win situation...

    Originally posted by MarkV
    It would not be difficult to set matters so that the vehicle won't operate without hands on the wheel. You could then have two classes of licence - one that only allows driving of an autopilot fitted vehicle and one with a much more stringent test allowing driving of a completely unautomated one. We already have two classes of licence here one for only vehicles with an automatic shift and the other for those with manual as well. It might reduce the risks posed by ageing drivers who might be restricted to the autopilot assisted vehicles unless they can prove that they are still with it.
    We have too many lawyers for that to work here...

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  • MarkV
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    Possibly there is a place for the autopilot as a supplement to rather than a replacement for the human driver. They could be set to override stupid. dangerous and/or illegal manoeuvres. It would not be difficult to set matters so that the vehicle won't operate without hands on the wheel. You could then have two classes of licence - one that only allows driving of an autopilot fitted vehicle and one with a much more stringent test allowing driving of a completely unautomated one. We already have two classes of licence here one for only vehicles with an automatic shift and the other for those with manual as well. It might reduce the risks posed by ageing drivers who might be restricted to the autopilot assisted vehicles unless they can prove that they are still with it.

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  • Gixxer86g
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    Originally posted by The Doctor View Post
    The problem is with the human-operated vehicles competing for air, sea or road space.

    Sadly, this is the truth. There's a simple solution, increased education. It's way too easy to get a drivers license here in the US. Especially in NJ.

    What's that? You're a 45 yr old woman who was never allowed to drive, or leave the house without a male family member? Here's your license!

    I suggest we follow Finland's example on driver education.

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  • The Doctor
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    Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
    You can't have freedom without risk and regressive are more than happy to use bad behavior to implement collectivist laws and policies.

    I used air transport as an example to illustrate how humans are unable to preform the necessarily tasks that complex systems require. If given the option of individual automated transport or collectivist mass transit the risks associated with the former are out weighted by the restrictions on freedom the latter imparts.
    The problem with autopiloted automobiles is that they operate in a highly uncontrolled and congested environment. Airliners and most other autopiloted vehicles operate in highly controlled or uncongested environments. AUV's (autonomous underwater vehicles) can do just about anything ROV's can do.... but they don't have to worry about ROV's getting in their way.

    The problem isn't with the autopiloted vehicles. The problem is with the human-operated vehicles competing for air, sea or road space.

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  • wolfhnd
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    Pilots do not sleep at the controls and we can assume that for the immediate future driverless cars are not an option and sleeping at the wheel will remain illegal. However cars who can preform beyond human capabilities similar to fly by wire planes are a viable alternative to adding more lanes.

    People will die in car accidents with or without the new technology. If you want to be certain you will not die in a car your only option is to never get in one. The zero tolerance for perceived risk is one aspect of the feminization of society. While it is probably true that humans have self domesticated and that this process has reduced masculine traits resulting in our more gracile features and non violent attitudes not all masculine traits are undesirable.

    Risk taking is an important masculine trait that needs to be revised. We may not need to be brave enough to spear a mammoth but we do need to be brave enough to embrace our own potential despite risks.

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  • MarkV
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    Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post


    Now, make the CEO's of all airlines spend at least eight hours per month on a no-frills flight riding coach next to a screaming baby and a fat person. Minimum duration of flight - four hours. Must arrive two hours early and go through complete security check including body scan and physical search every time.
    I feel your pain but that would probably result in very few airlines

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  • Mountain Man
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    Originally posted by wolfhnd View Post
    You can't have freedom without risk
    Then the risk must be assumed first by those who propose the system.

    Old Army saying: "Nothing is impossible if you're going to make someone else do it for you."

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