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  • Are Mass Shootings a Recent Phenomenon?

    Sadly, the answer is No!,

    On January 17, 1989, Patrick Edward Purdy went to the Cleveland Elementary School in Stockton, CA and began to open fire at the students and faculty that were on the playground at the time. The attack lasted for three minutes from 11:59 am to 12:02 pm Pacific Time.

    Patrick Edward Purdy, at the time of the shooting, was unemployed welder and was regularly referred to as “a drifter” after the fact. He was born in Tacoma, Washington but moved to Stockton, California with his mother after his father threatened to kill her with a pistol the family owned. Purdy attended Cleveland Elementary School from kindergarten to the second grade. He was described, by his stepfather, as a quiet child who cried often. After the family had moved to the Sacramento area of California, Child Protective Services were called to Purdy’s household twice due to allegations that his mother was abusing her children.

    When Purdy was thirteen he struck his mother and was banned from the household. He lived briefly on the streets of San Francisco before being put in foster care by authorities. His biological father later received custody of him and Purdy attended Lodi High School in Lodi, CA. While there Purdy reportedly became addicted to alcohol and drugs. In 1981 his father was hit by a car and killed. Purdy was again briefly homeless before being put in a home with a foster mother. Purdy then began to partake in much more criminal activity. His “official” criminal record began in 1977 when the Sacramento police confiscated BB guns from a 12-year old Purdy. He was arrested three times in 1980 for a court-order violation, underage drinking, and prostitution at the age of 15. He was arrested in 1982 for dealing drugs and was arrested again in 1983 for illegally possessing a firearm. He was arrested in 1984 for being an accomplice in an armed robbery and once again in 1987 for firing a pistol in the Eldorado National Forest. When he was arrested in 1987 he was found with a book on the white supremacist group Aryan Nations. He attempted to commit suicide twice while he was in prison.

    On the morning of January 17 an anonymous person called the Stockton Police Department and reported a death threat against the Cleveland Elementary school. At 11:59am Purdy went to the school and began the attack by setting his firework-laden van on fire with a Molotov cocktail. He then proceeded to the school playground and began shooting at the school students and faculty on the playground. He fired 106 rounds in the three minutes he fired the Type-56 and afterwards he killed himself with the Taurus pistol he had bought. He killed five children and wounded thirty-two others. All of those killed and a majority of those wounded were Asian immigrants. He had carved the words “freedom,” “victory,” “Earthman," and “Hezbollah” into his rifle. The flak jacket he was wearing was inscribed with “PLO,” “Libya,” and “death to the great satin.”

    Research doesn’t reveal anything in his background that would suggest he had embraced terroristic ties or fanatical beliefs in a given religion. The fact that his targets seemed to primarily be of Asian descent would indicate he selected his targets based on his previously spoken prejudices. We can only speculate that what he carved into his rifle and/or wore on the flak jacket was a poor attempt at misdirection concerning his motivations OR an attempt to further hysteria and fear.

    The shooting spawned concerns of how easy it was for a person with so many violent crimes on their arrest record, such as Purdy, to walk into a store and purchase a rifle without any questions asked. California's Assault Weapons Control Act was a result of the shooting along with President Bush banning the importation of “assault rifles” the same year.
    http://www.officer.com/article/12211...lyard-shooting
    Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
    Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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    On Friday, May 16, 1986 David and Doris Young entered the Cokeville Elementary School of Cokeville, Wyoming and took 136 children and 18 adults hostage at the school. Before looking at the shooting, there is needed background information to establish the motive and events before the hostage crisis occurred.

    David and Doris Young both resided in Cokeville, WY. David Young was the only police officer in Cokeville for 6 months in 1979 before being fired for misconduct after which, in disgrace, he moved to Tucson, AZ with his wife. They would live in Tucson until the day of the hostage crisis. David returned to Wyoming with his wife on May 16, 1986 and they arrived at the school at about 1:00 pm. At the school they unloaded a gasoline bomb, four rifles, and nine handguns. After entering the school David went to the office and began handing out a manifesto titled “ZERO EQUALS INFINITY” and announcing, “This is a revolution.” Teachers were initially confused, believing David and his wife to be mentally ill. While this occurred Doris Young went from classroom to classroom getting 136 children and 18 adults to follow her to a first-grade classroom by telling them that there was an emergency or an assembly.

    David Young entered the classroom with the gasoline bomb and attached the triggering mechanism to a shoelace tied to his wrist. He proceeded to demand a ransom of two million dollars per hostage totaling to $308 million dollars and he wanted an audience with President Reagan in attendance. During the standoff teachers were given permission to retrieve materials for the students to occupy themselves with; this permission allowed the children to focus on something relatively entertaining rather than having to focus on the situation at hand. Young’s wife is reported to have attempted to calm the children multiple times by telling them to “think of it as an adventure movie,” or that they “would have a great story to tell their grandchildren.” It is also reported that one child observed his birthday on that day and the hostage takers took part in singing the Happy Birthday song to him. It is reported that about two and half hours into the situation the students and teachers began praying and at this point David Young excused himself from the room after transferring the triggering mechanism to his wife.

    While away from the room Young’s wife attempted to calm the children again but lifted her arm sharply and triggered the bomb. Doris Young was severely injured from explosion but none of the students or other adults had suffered serious injury. Teachers took advantage of the situation to shuffle students out of the two open windows in the back of the classroom. At this time David Young re-entered the room shot and killed his wife, shot and wounded John Miller, a teacher that was shuffling students out of the windows, and then exited the room and killed himself.
    http://www.officer.com/article/12210...y-school-siege
    Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
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    • #3
      Dwelling on darkness only leads to darkness... Try looking at some humor or positive things. The world is going to hell on this staring at darkness.

      Post positive things. (Also quit watching media news.)

      Just a suggestion.
      Credo quia absurdum.


      Quantum mechanics describes nature as absurd from the point of view of common sense. And yet it fully agrees with experiment. So I hope you can accept nature as She is - absurd! - Richard Feynman

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      • #4
        In 1927, Donald Huffman was a student at the Bath School in Bath Township, Mich.

        Bath was "a little farm town. Had [an] elevator, a little drugstore, and you knew everybody within 20 miles," Huffman says. "Back then, that's the way it was."

        Near the end of the school year, on May 18, an explosion ripped through the Bath School. Huffman lost one eye and part of his cheekbone, suffered compound fractures, and ended up with "lots of scars, lots of scars all over. I was just messed up." He was 9 years old.

        Andrew Kehoe, a local farm owner who was also the school's caretaker, had planted the bomb at the school. Kehoe had been angry about property taxes used to fund the school. He burned down his farm that day, and then blew up his car, killing himself and five other people.

        The total death toll in the Bath School disaster was 45, including Kehoe. Thirty-eight of those killed were children. Huffman remembers one family that lost three children that day.

        "Everybody was hard-hit," Huffman, now 91, remembers. "Everybody."

        Willis Cressman, now age 97, was another student at the school.

        "You wouldn't think a church member could do such a thing, would you?" Cressman says of Kehoe. "He was the caretaker of the school. In fact, I saw him that morning. He was working on a door, and he smiled at us as we walked in."
        http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=103186662
        Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
        Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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        • #5
          Gun Control worked well in Russia...

          Beslan school attack, violent takeover of a school in Beslan, a city in the North Caucasus republic of North Ossetia, Russia, in September 2004. Perpetrated by militants linked to the separatist insurgency in the nearby republic of Chechnya, the attack resulted in the deaths of more than 330 people, the majority of them children. The scale of the violence at Beslan and, in particular, the fact that the attackers deliberately targeted young children traumatized the Russian public and horrified the outside world. The failure of law-enforcement agencies to prevent the deaths shook Russians’ confidence in the government, and Pres. Vladimir Putin subsequently centralized control over the country’s far-flung regions.
          http://www.britannica.com/event/Beslan-school-attack
          Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Bwaha View Post
            Dwelling on darkness only leads to darkness... Try looking at some humor or positive things. The world is going to hell on this staring at darkness.

            Post positive things. (Also quit watching media news.)

            Just a suggestion.
            I get it. But, we need to take the truth back, these things happen in countries all over the world.
            Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
            Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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            • #7
              Mass shootings are nothing new any more than terrorist bombings are. I've mentioned previous ones going back to the beginning of the 20th century that occurred in the US like the Wall Street one or the L A Hurst building one.

              But, when it comes to history, the Left has little to no interest in, or knowledge of it.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Urban hermit View Post
                No disagreement, but you clearly are missing the larger point that the USA leads the world when it comes to these events. An argument could be made that gun ownership is very common in Switzerland for example, but again there is a point that is being missed in that respect as well. In Switzerland gun ownership is strictly controlled.

                Switzerland has a comprehensive gun-control regime that is governed by federal law and implemented by the cantons. This regime may be somewhat less restrictive than that of other European countries, yet since 2008 it has complied with European Union requirements. The Swiss Weapons Act requires an acquisition license for handguns and a carrying license for the carrying of any permitted firearm for defensive purposes. Exceptions exist for hunters. Automatic weapons are banned.

                Swiss militiamen may keep their issued personal weapon in their home. A popular referendum to prohibit this practice was rejected in February 2011.
                So what is so different between the USA and countries like Switzerland? Why is it that in the USA we have so many mass shootings? To somehow deny that mass shootings are unrelated to the easy availability of guns in the USA is willfully ignoring empirical evidence. I will again make it absolutely clear that I am not opposed to gun ownership, far from it. However, the free for all mentality that is espoused by certain posters in these forums is to put it mildly ridiculous.

                The AR-15 is an assault weapon; weapons such as the AR-15 should not be made available to the general populace. Additionally, firearms should be registered and licensed, and items such as armor piercing ammunition should not be for sale to the general public as well.

                Please spare the usual self righteous Second Amendment based rights that clearly ignore the responsibilities that go with those rights. You can also save the usual drivel that if you make guns illegal criminals will still be able to get; that is true but it is a specious argument at best.

                Finally, I would recommend that you take a look at this article from that left wing rag, the Wall Street Journal.

                The U.S. represents less than 5% of the 7.3 billion global population but accounted for 31% of global mass shooters during the period from 1966 to 2012, more than any other country, Mr. Lankford said, adding that he defines a mass shooter as one who killed at least four victims. The 90 killers who carried out mass shootings in the U.S. amounted to five times as many as the next highest country, the Philippines, according to his research.
                http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-lead...ngs-1443905359
                https://www.loc.gov/law/help/firearm...witzerland.php
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                • #9
                  The U.S. represents less than 5% of the 7.3 billion global population but accounted for 31% of global mass shooters during the period from 1966 to 2012, more than any other country, Mr. Lankford said, adding that he defines a mass shooter as one who killed at least four victims. The 90 killers who carried out mass shootings in the U.S. amounted to five times as many as the next highest country, the Philippines, according to his research.
                  Why 1966 ? Earliest available statistics ?

                  4 victims for one shooter was below average in colonial times after muzzle loading.
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                  • #10
                    Are Mass Shootings a Recent Phenomenon?

                    Short answer: No.

                    Long answer:
                    The Worst Mass Shooting in U.S. History Was Not in Orlando
                    by PAUL RATNER June 14, 2016

                    The horrific massacre of innocents in an Orlando nightclub is a tragedy of national and international proportions. The senseless, methodical killing of people just like us, in a place where they’ve come to relax, is an affront to our humanity and civilization.

                    It has immediately been dubbed “the worst mass shooting in American history” by many media organizations (and our President), looking to single out this event from the almost weekly incidents of gun violence that plague the U.S.

                    But this kind of categorization is very debatable and has been called out for “whitewashing” history. If we mean murder perpetrated by guns, the worst “mass shooting” in American history was the “Wounded Knee Massacre” in South Dakota, when 150-300 Native Americans were gunned down by the U.S. army in South Dakota.

                    On December 29th, 1890, a regiment of 500+ American troops surrounded a group of Lakota on the Lakota Pine Ridge Indian Reservation in South Dakota, and ordered them to surrender their weapons.

                    [...]

                    http://bigthink.com/paul-ratner/the-...av-dropdown-56
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Bass_Man86 View Post
                      No disagreement, but you clearly are missing the larger point that the USA leads the world when it comes to these events. An argument could be made that gun ownership is very common in Switzerland for example, but again there is a point that is being missed in that respect as well. In Switzerland gun ownership is strictly controlled.



                      [...]


                      http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-lead...ngs-1443905359
                      https://www.loc.gov/law/help/firearm...witzerland.php
                      Flunk math much?



                      The only relevant number for comparison is the fatality rate. Norway, Finland and Switzerland have higher mass shooting fatality rates. A 0.15 out of 100,000 fatality rate is an insignificantly small number (0.00015%).

                      The average American has a 0.00015% annual probability of being killed in a mass shooting. This is a 99.99985% annual probability of not being killed in a mass shooting.

                      Any sane person would accept a 99.99985% annual probability of not being killed in a mass shooting with at least a 50% chance of fighting off an armed intruder over a 99.99997% annual probability (England) of not being killed in a mass shooting with a 0% chance of fighting off an armed intruder.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by The Doctor View Post
                        Flunk math much?



                        The only relevant number for comparison is the fatality rate. Norway, Finland and Switzerland have higher mass shooting fatality rates. A 0.15 out of 100,000 fatality rate is an insignificantly small number (0.00015%).

                        The average American has a 0.00015% annual probability of being killed in a mass shooting. This is a 99.99985% annual probability of not being killed in a mass shooting.

                        Any sane person would accept a 99.99985% annual probability of not being killed in a mass shooting with at least a 50% chance of fighting off an armed intruder over a 99.99997% annual probability (England) of not being killed in a mass shooting with a 0% chance of fighting off an armed intruder.
                        No, but clearly you did Doc! Did you miss the part about 133 mass shooting in the US between 2000 and 2014? It's not about the fatality rate. If you want to talk rates the homicide rate in the USA is 5 per 100,000 in Italy it's 1 per 100,000, Germany has the same rate while in Japan it's zero.

                        http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/VC.IHR.PSRC.P5
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                        Hard core! Old School! Deal with it!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Bwaha View Post
                          Dwelling on darkness only leads to darkness... Try looking at some humor or positive things. The world is going to hell on this staring at darkness.

                          Post positive things. (Also quit watching media news.)

                          Just a suggestion.
                          "When you're up to your a$$ in alligators, it's hard to remember that your original objective was to drain the swamp."
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Bass_Man86 View Post
                            No, but clearly you did Doc! Did you miss the part about 133 mass shooting in the US between 2000 and 2014? It's not about the fatality rate. If you want to talk rates the homicide rate in the USA is 5 per 100,000 in Italy it's 1 per 100,000, Germany has the same rate while in Japan it's zero.

                            http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/VC.IHR.PSRC.P5
                            133 divided by 300,000,000 is exactly the same a 1.33 divided by 3,000,000. This is elementary school level arithmetic.

                            Can you do long division? What is 5 divided by 100,000? Convert he answer to a percentage. It's 0.005%. That's a 99.995% annual probability of not being the victim of a homicide in the US. No sane person would sacrifice any portion of their Second Amendment right to improve that number to 99.999%. It is a statistically insignificant improvement.

                            I only minored in math, but Gun Math 101 is "so easy, a caveman could do it."
                            An estimated 3.7 million household burglaries occurred each year on average from 2003 to 2007. In about 28% of these burglaries, a household member was present during the burglary.

                            In 7% of all household burglaries, a household member experienced some form of violent victimization (figure 1).

                            [...]

                            http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/ascii/vdhb.txt

                            There are 124.59 million households in the US.
                            3,700,000 /124,590,000 = 0.0297 = 2.97%

                            There is a 2.97% annual probability of my home being burglarized.

                            7% of burglaries are of a "home invasion" variety. 7% of 3.7 million is 259,000.
                            259,000 /124,590,000 = 0.0021 = 0.2%

                            My M1 carbine, Smith & Wesson M586 .357 magnum and Remington M870 12 ga shotgun afford me at least a 50-50 chance in a fight with an armed intruder.

                            Euro-style gun laws, if they worked, would reduce my odds against an armed intruder to zero-point-zero and only improve safety from a mass shooting from 99.99985% to 99.99997%.

                            I wouldn't choose an AR15 type rifle for home defense. However, no law banning an AR15 can logically not ban my M1 carbine or a Winchester 73.
                            Last edited by The Doctor; 15 Jun 16, 10:42.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Bass_Man86 View Post
                              No disagreement, but you clearly are missing the larger point that the USA leads the world when it comes to these events. An argument could be made that gun ownership is very common in Switzerland for example, but again there is a point that is being missed in that respect as well. In Switzerland gun ownership is strictly controlled.



                              So what is so different between the USA and countries like Switzerland? Why is it that in the USA we have so many mass shootings? To somehow deny that mass shootings are unrelated to the easy availability of guns in the USA is willfully ignoring empirical evidence. I will again make it absolutely clear that I am not opposed to gun ownership, far from it. However, the free for all mentality that is espoused by certain posters in these forums is to put it mildly ridiculous.

                              The AR-15 is an assault weapon; weapons such as the AR-15 should not be made available to the general populace. Additionally, firearms should be registered and licensed, and items such as armor piercing ammunition should not be for sale to the general public as well.

                              Please spare the usual self righteous Second Amendment based rights that clearly ignore the responsibilities that go with those rights. You can also save the usual drivel that if you make guns illegal criminals will still be able to get; that is true but it is a specious argument at best.

                              Finally, I would recommend that you take a look at this article from that left wing rag, the Wall Street Journal.



                              http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-lead...ngs-1443905359
                              https://www.loc.gov/law/help/firearm...witzerland.php
                              You miss the Belsan massacre, look it up. The Kenyan massacre or 2015 look it up.
                              And I would suggest that in Mexico they just don't report them anymore.
                              Dispite our best intentions, the system is dysfunctional that intelligence failure is guaranteed.
                              Russ Travers, CIA analyst, 2001

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