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  • This election has boiled down to the 'Three Stooges"

    The accuracy of this analogy is amazing.


  • #2
    Not really. There isn't anything funny about this situation. If Hillary wins she will destroy a great deal of this nation.
    Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by rkohut View Post
      The accuracy of this analogy is amazing.
      There is no accuracy in the analogy at all. I know you are trying to be humorous but I don't see the humor in this.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
        Not really. There isn't anything funny about this situation. If Hillary wins she will destroy a great deal of this nation.
        Absolutely agree! Trump is just as bad but at least he is showing how ridiculous our nominee selection process and our two party system is in this country.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by A7V View Post
          Absolutely agree! Trump is just as bad but at least he is showing how ridiculous our nominee selection process and our two party system is in this country.
          Very true but because of it you are landed into having to make an impossible choice. Which at bottom show the problems of having constitutional arrangements designed for two and a half centuries ago and set in vellum. As Nelson would have said I wish you joy"!
          Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
          Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)

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          • #6
            Originally posted by A7V View Post
            Absolutely agree! Trump is just as bad but at least he is showing how ridiculous our nominee selection process and our two party system is in this country.
            There is nothing wrong with the two party system. It has served us well for centuries. Trump isn't bad, just not my first choice.

            There has never been a good democratic candidate, but even by that corrupt band's standards Hillary is a nightmare.
            Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
              There is nothing wrong with the two party system. It has served us well for centuries. T.
              Really makes my point. Life moves on. No one wears wigs and three cornered hats any more.
              Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe (H G Wells)
              Mit der Dummheit kaempfen Goetter selbst vergebens (Friedrich von Schiller)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by MarkV View Post
                Really makes my point. Life moves on. No one wears wigs and three cornered hats any more.
                Don't your judges wear wigs?

                No, it doesn't make your point. The system has grown and matured with time, obviously, but it has ensured a peaceful transition of power for centuries. That is exactly what it is supposed to do. You don't screw with success.

                Besides, there is absolutely zero real motivation to change. The people who pay for elections have no incentive to alter the number of effective parties and increase their costs for no gain.

                I this case, even if Hillary wins we have recourse. We can cripple her administration the same way we have Bobo's. Probably even more, since she won't have the race card or a GOP predecessor to blame.
                Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                • #9
                  Of Placards and Yawns

                  Originally posted by A7V View Post
                  Absolutely agree! Trump is just as bad but at least he is showing how ridiculous our nominee selection process and our two party system is in this country.
                  Ok, the U.S. has a multi party system, but nobody LIKES the other parties.

                  More importantly, as bad as the selection this go around is, the real truth of the matter is that regardless of who sits in the High-Throne-of-Washington, very little is ever going to effect us greatly on way or 'tother. Those who believe so are deluding themselves. Oh sure, a President or Congress can through action, inaction, or misaction tweak the economy on way or another, but truth is the economy is so enormous and multi-variable that it is impossible for anybody to have anyone to have any major effect on it. The inertia is too great. That is why planned economies always fail.

                  Foreign policy will be more affected, but in the end that does not effect us THAT greatly. At most we are effected on the edges. Yes, some soldiers may die (or with Hillary a few diplomats). Our standing in the world will be raised or lowered, but in the end is that even relevant? No one (of any import) will stop doing business with us. Its too much against their best interests [and THAT dear sirs (and Madames) is what makes us a Super Power.

                  To make a long post longer by making the point shorter; Da World Ain't commin' to an end no matter who sits their exalted ass in the Oval Office.

                  Tuebor

                  (Who is mighty sick of the doom and gloom-Its Baseball season for Christ's Sake).

                  Go Tigers.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
                    I this case, even if Hillary wins we have recourse. We can cripple her administration the same way we have Bobo's. Probably even more, since she won't have the race card or a GOP predecessor to blame.
                    Ah the right wing... let's destroy our nation to spite everyone instead of working with others..

                    Hillary is the most conservative candidate for president you have in this election and you won't vote for her.

                    I mean, I guess I can sympathize with that because I know I won't vote for her because she is so conservative.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by A7V View Post
                      Ah the right wing... let's destroy our nation to spite everyone instead of working with others..

                      Hillary is the most conservative candidate for president you have in this election and you won't vote for her.

                      I mean, I guess I can sympathize with that because I know I won't vote for her because she is so conservative.
                      If she is conservative compared to you, then you have bigger issues than the 2016 election.
                      Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post
                        If she is conservative compared to you, then you have bigger issues than the 2016 election.
                        Honestly, Bernie is a bit conservative for me on some issues but he is the best shot progressives had in a long time so I supported him.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Arnold J Rimmer View Post

                          Besides, there is absolutely zero real motivation to change. The people who pay for elections have no incentive to alter the number of effective parties and increase their costs for no gain.
                          In Michigan the bar for being considered a "major political party" is 5% of the vote. ANYONE can get on the ballot with enough signatures. Typically, I will have 6 or 7 choices for President. Forget this rigged crap, there are no other political parties that people even come close to desiring? Most are also single issue (U.S. Taxpayers Party e.g.). Some are simply disgusting to the American political mind (World Worker Parties). Dems and Reps fill the political need for most (this is changing somewhat, as it does every few generations). The reason why Europeans, e.g., have so many parties is because European culture tends to be more tribal in nature than American (which is an amalgamation of cultures), and so tend to be more issue specific to parties, where our parties are more general. They have a party for every hue and shade of socialism that can be imagined, e.g., whereas to us 'Mericans they all blur into a broad singularity.

                          European politics are much more fragmented than U.S., and certainly are not to be imitated. The secret to our success, politically, is the ability to compromise. Lately we have not been doing much of that, which is what really is driving the anger at politicians (even though we tend to ignore the fact they are just a mirror of the body politic as a whole).

                          ADDENDA: That in the fact that Europeans tend to represent a broader width of the political spectrum than Americans.

                          Tuebor

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by A7V View Post
                            Honestly, Bernie is a bit conservative for me on some issues but he is the best shot progressives had in a long time so I supported him.
                            Wow. No wonder you found the board different when you returned.

                            Bernie's not out, but even if he gets the votes Hillary is going to win.

                            I would prefer to see Bernie to get it because he would be easier to beat, but then again I may be over-estimating Hillary. Bobo beating her in 2008 caught a lot of people by surprise, and her buffet of scandal certainly isn't running dry.
                            Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Tuebor View Post
                              In Michigan the bar for being considered a "major political party" is 5% of the vote. ANYONE can get on the ballot with enough signatures. Typically, I will have 6 or 7 choices for President. Forget this rigged crap, there are no other political parties that people even come close to desiring? Most are also single issue (U.S. Taxpayers Party e.g.). Some are simply disgusting to the American political mind (World Worker Parties). Dems and Reps fill the political need for most (this is changing somewhat, as it does every few generations). The reason why Europeans, e.g., have so many parties is because European culture tends to be more tribal in nature than American (which is an amalgamation of cultures), and so tend to be more issue specific to parties, where our parties are more general. They have a party for every hue and shade of socialism that can be imagined, e.g., whereas to us 'Mericans they all blur into a broad singularity.

                              European politics are much more fragmented than U.S., and certainly are not to be imitated. The secret to our success, politically, is the ability to compromise. Lately we have not been doing much of that, which is what really is driving the anger at politicians (even though we tend to ignore the fact they are just a mirror of the body politic as a whole).

                              ADDENDA: That in the fact that Europeans tend to represent a broader width of the political spectrum than Americans.

                              Tuebor
                              True enough. The GOP and the Dems have brand recognition, and as you say, the indies are indies for a reason.

                              Most US voters focus on only one or two issues, so you only need a couple parties.
                              Any man can hold his place when the bands play and women throw flowers; it is when the enemy presses close and metal shears through the ranks that one can acertain which are soldiers, and which are not.

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